RE: Audi R8 V8 manual: Spotted
Discussion
MarkosGTV said:
we're going through a period where turbos have changed the picture.
But is it for the better?
When a hot hatch can take you to licence-losing (e.g. 90 in an NSL) in c.10s (or the top of 3rd gear, probably), and a super-saloon has >500bhp as a starting point, exactly how relevant is all this performance to the road???
I know, I know - "take it on track" - but how many people have the money to do trackdays, or are willing to risk a £30/50/70k car doing so? (most trackday insurance policies have an excess equal to 10% of the valuation) Moreover, most of these uber-fast cars are also increasingly heavy, which arguably reduces the 'fun' factor on-track and increases the consumables / cost of the trackday.
Anyway, going O/T...
havoc said:
But is it for the better?
When a hot hatch can take you to licence-losing (e.g. 90 in an NSL) in c.10s (or the top of 3rd gear, probably), and a super-saloon has >500bhp as a starting point, exactly how relevant is all this performance to the road???
I know, I know - "take it on track" - but how many people have the money to do trackdays, or are willing to risk a £30/50/70k car doing so? (most trackday insurance policies have an excess equal to 10% of the valuation) Moreover, most of these uber-fast cars are also increasingly heavy, which arguably reduces the 'fun' factor on-track and increases the consumables / cost of the trackday.
Anyway, going O/T...
And mine is stated at 1550kg (most weigh in 70-100kg heavier than that in the flesh) - the weights are coming down again.
Back in April I tasked myself to find an R8 for 50k after selling my Boxster S 981.
I looked at four, all had issues that stopped me buying, and I felt they were dated inside.
I found a good one at a dealer but the warranty offered had a £1000 claim limit, and after looking through service histories and seeing large repair bills that the warranty wouldn't have covered anyway (oil leaks) (mag ride) I thought I'd have to get a far newer one to be happy.
I also looked at TTRS, Alfa 4C, new Cayman S 718, and briefly a Bentley Continental GT.
Long story short, I bought the TT after a test drive that involved driving through a tunnel, and the lure of the 3 year warranty, new tech etc...
I'm still longing for an R8, I totally agree the TT is not special enough, albeit a fine machine that's easy to drive fast, and makes an addictive noise.
So I'm saving my pennies for a V10 R8 plus, my friend has one and it really does impress, who cares about being practical? I have a Fabia estate for that.
Alfa 4C horrid inside.
718 Cayman sounded awful after my 6 pot 981.
Bentley impressive, but at 46 felt I wasn't quite old enough.
I'm also wondering what the new Supra is going to be like.
I looked at four, all had issues that stopped me buying, and I felt they were dated inside.
I found a good one at a dealer but the warranty offered had a £1000 claim limit, and after looking through service histories and seeing large repair bills that the warranty wouldn't have covered anyway (oil leaks) (mag ride) I thought I'd have to get a far newer one to be happy.
I also looked at TTRS, Alfa 4C, new Cayman S 718, and briefly a Bentley Continental GT.
Long story short, I bought the TT after a test drive that involved driving through a tunnel, and the lure of the 3 year warranty, new tech etc...
I'm still longing for an R8, I totally agree the TT is not special enough, albeit a fine machine that's easy to drive fast, and makes an addictive noise.
So I'm saving my pennies for a V10 R8 plus, my friend has one and it really does impress, who cares about being practical? I have a Fabia estate for that.
Alfa 4C horrid inside.
718 Cayman sounded awful after my 6 pot 981.
Bentley impressive, but at 46 felt I wasn't quite old enough.
I'm also wondering what the new Supra is going to be like.
Edited by Trevor555 on Friday 1st December 22:31
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