RE: McLaren confirms 'brutal' P15

[Smokey32]

Meh sounds like all there other cars.

I came here expecting a Lotus type thing. 1000KG kerbweight, high revving 4 pot or 6 and proper track focused.

[chelme]

CraigyMc said:

chelme said:

Let me guess (have not read the article)...it has the same 4.0 litre V8...zzzzzz

You mean like Ferrari fitted the same V12 to the Laferrari, FF, F12, tdf and GTC4?

Haha! Yes, except that the V12 is a truly special unit, hitting all the key buttons. ;-)

[MartinGLeeds]

markcoznottz said:

As was mentioned last month, look at who owns the business, they want regular returns and then some, numbers on a spreadsheet is all that matters.

Are you a finance policy advisor for Corben?

Muppet.

[ZX10R NIN]

Ford better make the most of it's GT being one of the most track focused road cars & deliver them quickly.

[VanquishRider]

MartinGLeeds said:

markcoznottz said:

As was mentioned last month, look at who owns the business, they want regular returns and then some, numbers on a spreadsheet is all that matters.

Are you a finance policy advisor for Corben?

Muppet.

Don't compliment him. Muppets have a use. This guy is John MacDonald I'm sure of it. As stated on last weeks Question Time. What's your financial policy once you have spent all the rich peoples money?

By the way I'm not rich, despite my car. Possibly, because of my car even...

Edited by VanquishRider on Wednesday 18th October 21:15

[Maldini35]

Smokey32 said:

Meh sounds like all there other cars.

I came here expecting a Lotus type thing. 1000KG kerbweight, high revving 4 pot or 6 and proper track focused.

How do you know it’s not?

Not much actual information has been released.

[chelme]

MartinGLeeds said:

markcoznottz said:

As was mentioned last month, look at who owns the business, they want regular returns and then some, numbers on a spreadsheet is all that matters.

Are you a finance policy advisor for Corben?

Muppet.

I'll be devils advocate for Markcoznottz here. Whilst I appreciate it has to remain a profitable business, I hope that there is some extra R&D to produce a car significantly different to the others.

I think they have the brand following now, so they can afford to take a hit on profits in the short term, to come up with something truly unique. I like, for example what AM will be doing with the Valkyre - A hybrid V12 with a completely new design.

Just a thought.

Edited by chelme on Wednesday 18th October 21:43

[CraigyMc]

Maldini35 said:

Smokey32 said:

Meh sounds like all there other cars.

I came here expecting a Lotus type thing. 1000KG kerbweight, high revving 4 pot or 6 and proper track focused.

How do you know it’s not?

Not much actual information has been released.

If it's the track special that is being talked about, expect it to wear bigger tyres than the other cars, have relatively poor ride quality, have good downforce, be relatively light (somewhere in the region of 1100-1200kg is probable), and totally muller most things round any given track.

A nordschleife time would be interesting.

[markcoznottz]

VanquishRider said:

MartinGLeeds said:

markcoznottz said:

As was mentioned last month, look at who owns the business, they want regular returns and then some, numbers on a spreadsheet is all that matters.

Are you a finance policy advisor for Corben?

Muppet.

Don't compliment him. Muppets have a use. This guy is John MacDonald I'm sure of it. As stated on last weeks Question Time. What's your financial policy once you have spent all the rich peoples money?

By the way I'm not rich, despite my car. Possibly, because of my car even...

Edited by VanquishRider on Wednesday 18th October 21:15

I was merely reiterating a position made by someone who had owned two mclarens on a post a few weeks back, and he was concerned about the split of private equity owners and thier flip and sell tendencies, you pair of retards.

[TrivsTom]

Ah yes, the F1 was named after Formula 1, P1 after pole position, P15 is named after the average grid position McLaren-Honda have qualified in?

[rodericb]

Will we see an upgraded S version some time? They can't let Porsche have all that fun...!

[WCZ]

the competition for the P15 is absolutely nuts, they have a really difficult job

[CraigyMc]

WCZ said:

the competition for the P15 is absolutely nuts, they have a really difficult job

What competition?

[havoc]

thegreenhell said:

GroundEffect said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

Another?! Will no doubt be fantastic though. Good to see the naming strategy is still an absolute mess.

TBF, the P15 just means Project 15. The P1 was internally known as P12. Since then we've had the 5xx sports cars, 720S and now on to the P15.

I thought the name was inspired by the F1 team's average position.

Beaten to it.

[hondansx]

TrivsTom said:

Ah yes, the F1 was named after Formula 1, P1 after pole position, P15 is named after the average grid position McLaren-Honda have qualified in?

very good...

[Davey S2]

CraigyMc said:

WCZ said:

the competition for the P15 is absolutely nuts, they have a really difficult job

What competition?

I'm guessing the Aston Martin Valkyrie and the Mercedes Project One

[CraigyMc]

Davey S2 said:

CraigyMc said:

WCZ said:

the competition for the P15 is absolutely nuts, they have a really difficult job

What competition?

I'm guessing the Aston Martin Valkyrie and the Mercedes Project One

The P15 is £850K, the Mercedes is £2.4m, the Aston £3m.

Unless we're in a world where someone would consider a £40K Boxster to be competition for a £120K 911GT3, I don't see either the Merc or Aston as competition for the P15.

[thegreenhell]

Does relative price even come into it at this level? I'm sure that many buyers of any one of those will also have one of each of the others on order as well. I doubt it's an either/or scenario, and certainly not with price being the deciding factor.

[CraigyMc]

thegreenhell said:

Does relative price even come into it at this level? I'm sure that many buyers of any one of those will also have one of each of the others on order as well. I doubt it's an either/or scenario, and certainly not with price being the deciding factor.

Tell you what: try selling a P15 for £2.4m and see how you fare.

There's a popular misconception that once you're "rich", you stop caring about value.

[5harp3y]

Based on the fact that road going McLaren's are getting better and better .... this should be amazing!