RE: McLaren confirms 'brutal' P15

[Davey S2]

CraigyMc said:

Davey S2 said:

CraigyMc said:

WCZ said:

the competition for the P15 is absolutely nuts, they have a really difficult job

What competition?

I'm guessing the Aston Martin Valkyrie and the Mercedes Project One

The P15 is £850K, the Mercedes is £2.4m, the Aston £3m.

Unless we're in a world where someone would consider a £40K Boxster to be competition for a £120K 911GT3, I don't see either the Merc or Aston as competition for the P15.

Hardly a fair comparison.

Anyone with the cash to buy a P15 (which is likely to cost a fair chunk more once specced up) would probably be able to afford the others if they wanted. They are all still in the 'Hypercar' category.

[CraigyMc]

Davey S2 said:

Hardly a fair comparison

You agree that the P15 isn't actually comparable with the Project One or Valkyrie now?

[thegreenhell]

CraigyMc said:

thegreenhell said:

Does relative price even come into it at this level? I'm sure that many buyers of any one of those will also have one of each of the others on order as well. I doubt it's an either/or scenario, and certainly not with price being the deciding factor.

Tell you what: try selling a P15 for £2.4m and see how you fare.

There's a popular misconception that once you're "rich", you stop caring about value.

I'm not saying that 'value' isn't important. I'm sure you don't become wealthy if you don't recognise value, or you won't stay wealthy for very long. I just don't think you can discount something so boldly purely on the basis that it costs less than other items that perform similarly. What's to say the Mercedes is such good value at £2.4m, or the Aston at £3m?

[woppum]

CraigyMc said:

You agree that the P15 isn't actually comparable with the Project One or Valkyrie now?

Another useless pistonheads thread making speculation fact . How is this an interesting conversation I don't know.

[VanquishRider]

CraigyMc said:

thegreenhell said:

Does relative price even come into it at this level? I'm sure that many buyers of any one of those will also have one of each of the others on order as well. I doubt it's an either/or scenario, and certainly not with price being the deciding factor.

Tell you what: try selling a P15 for £2.4m and see how you fare.

There's a popular misconception that once you're "rich", you stop caring about value.

AS this is apparently worth circa £20Mill. Shouldn't be too hard to price a P15 at over a million or two????

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/de...

[wst]

..."the P15 is very likely to rely on a combustion engine alone"

Where's this coming from? Journalistic dreaming or something someone at Woking said? It flies against stuff I've heard some engineers muttering...

Edited by wst on Thursday 19th October 23:56

[F1GTRUeno]

Gandahar said:

*stuff*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP8-1FNeD-s

[Graham-vajy9]

What a wonderful car, however as cars with internal combustion engines will start to be banned from UK cities from January next year, Norway and Netherlands from 2025, Scotland from 2032 and England from 2040 AND the speed limit is around 80mph in Europe. I beg to ask the question why? Where is the business model long term?

[Kozy]

wst said:

..."the P15 is very likely to rely on a combustion engine alone"

Where's this coming from? Journalistic dreaming or something someone at Woking said? It flies against stuff I've heard some engineers muttering...

Edited by wst on Thursday 19th October 23:56

Flies pretty well with what I’ve seen...