LOL. Reckless Porsche Driver in Video has 911 for sale on PH

[Bonefish Blues]

antacid said:

Bonefish Blues said:

Had you considered your two statements might be mutually contradictory?

No blame attaches to the car who flashed.

I don't think they are per say. One doesn't contradict the other, in fact the second statement supports the point made by the fact that I prefaced the with "To me...'' The point being that it simply isn't clear enough to form more than a somewhat spurious opinion of whichever way it's cut..

You saw enough to form a firm opinion of what happened, whilst telling me that there was insufficient clarity for me to form the view that I had.

I'll leave it there.

[MikeyC]

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[Bonefish Blues]

That was referencing a TVR, wasn't it?

[havoc]

Bonefish Blues said:

The second one was a bad one, the oncoming car would have no idea of his intention to pull in a gap that (almost) wasn't there, and which in modern motoring, other road users are only too prepared to close, leaving literally nowhere to go. That secondary swerve was nasty.

The rest, no issue.

100% this.

If I'm being picky he let himself get too close to the white car after the first overtake, but we've all made those little mistakes...

[herewego]

havoc said:

Bonefish Blues said:

The second one was a bad one, the oncoming car would have no idea of his intention to pull in a gap that (almost) wasn't there, and which in modern motoring, other road users are only too prepared to close, leaving literally nowhere to go. That secondary swerve was nasty.

The rest, no issue.

100% this.

If I'm being picky he let himself get too close to the white car after the first overtake, but we've all made those little mistakes...

So you think the brake testing after the first overtake was okay?

[Rawwr]

I'm quite staggered and slightly worried how many people seem to think that driving was acceptable. It all looked dreadful to me. Poor planning, no anticipation, jerky, aggressive and inconsiderate. It's not a great combination of attributes.

[Porsche911R]

eliot said:

First overtake into the front of camera car seemed ok, the one where the oncoming flashes and then
he pulls in forcing the guy to brake was a poor show really.

the guy was forced to brake because he did not leave a gap which he should

I cannot see any thing wrong in the over takes either, people are like sheep and if you get stuck In a 40mph que on a 60mph road you do have to force your way a bit these days.

I get flashed most days, I have also been known to get out of my car at the next lights to asked why I was flashed, I did this to a cop once, he looked very sheepish and then took his full beam off !

over taking is legal :-) people are like F***king sheep, the roads are a mess, every one has this keep right mentality on any 2 lane road also.


I have been pulled over 3 times by the police for over taking cars, but never been fined !! they normally lie and ask for a breath test or some bks.

lucky these days there are less police in cars on the road, so not been pulled for a while. either that or they must be so pissed off with the new breed of keep right drivers, they have given up !

rant over ;-)

Edited by Porsche911R on Tuesday 24th October 10:13

[havoc]

herewego said:

So you think the brake testing after the first overtake was okay?

Just re-watched it, and yeah, fair point - when I first saw that I thought he was just giving himself space, but it's too harsh for that.

As for 'poor planning' comment above - 2nd overtake definitely, 1st and 3rd were acceptable, even if not advanced-standard. Chap was a little jerky, but it's easy to second guess from a video afterwards...


Take out the idiot 2nd overtake and the ahole swerve afterwards and he was just a bit keen. Add it back in and the standard falls right down.

The sad thing is I've seen worse on the roads from the self-righteous brigade, yet this is the sort of stuff that makes the press...

[anonymous-user]

havoc said:

Just re-watched it, and yeah, fair point - when I first saw that I thought he was just giving himself space, but it's too harsh for that.

As for 'poor planning' comment above - 2nd overtake definitely, 1st and 3rd were acceptable, even if not advanced-standard. Chap was a little jerky, but it's easy to second guess from a video afterwards...


Take out the idiot 2nd overtake and the ahole swerve afterwards and he was just a bit keen. Add it back in and the standard falls right down.

The sad thing is I've seen worse on the roads from the self-righteous brigade, yet this is the sort of stuff that makes the press...

[AW111]

Porsche911R said:

The guy did nothing wrong and is a driving god like me.
Tremble and defer, little people.

[Bonefish Blues]

havoc said:

herewego said:

So you think the brake testing after the first overtake was okay?

Just re-watched it, and yeah, fair point - when I first saw that I thought he was just giving himself space, but it's too harsh for that.

As for 'poor planning' comment above - 2nd overtake definitely, 1st and 3rd were acceptable, even if not advanced-standard. Chap was a little jerky, but it's easy to second guess from a video afterwards...


Take out the idiot 2nd overtake and the ahole swerve afterwards and he was just a bit keen. Add it back in and the standard falls right down.

The sad thing is I've seen worse on the roads from the self-righteous brigade, yet this is the sort of stuff that makes the press...

I haven't commented on that as I couldn't see what the reason was for the brake test - that is, whether it was solely initiated by the Porsche vs the camera car, or whether he himself had been tested by the car in front.

[Porsche911R]

AW111 said:

I cannot post anything worth reading so I had to result in changing some ones post and re-quote it.

Odd why people do this :-)

[Bonefish Blues]

Porsche911R said:

AW111 said:

I cannot post anything worth reading so I had to result in changing some ones post and re-quote it.

Odd why people do this :-)

I think the point he was making was well understood.

[Rawwr]

Porsche911R said:

I have been pulled over 3 times by the police for over taking cars

How much of that was due to poor driving and how much was due to victimisation, in your opinion?

[MikeyC]

Bonefish Blues said:

That was referencing a TVR, wasn't it?

Oh right - my bad !

[boz1]

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[Rawwr]

boz1 said:

Err nope, if you can't get around safely without the overtakee changing speed or direction, it's reckless and you're a tt.

If I have to "facilitate" your overtake, I will do so to avoid a crash. I will also make it abundantly clear what I think of your driving and I may report you.

I'll facilitate anyone passing me by backing off for a moment (rolling off the throttle, not braking), just for everyone's safety. It's no skin off my nose and just makes everything that little bit easier for everyone.

[Spanglepants]

Unfortunately there too many on the road who cannot handle being overtaken. Ive lost count of the amount of drivers who, being ahead of you driving steadily slower will, upon being overtaken perfectly legally, suddenly HAVE to speed up and feel personally challenged.
Had one a few nights ago. Driving home in Milton Keynes at night so mostly empty long dual carriage ways. Yes I was cracking on a bit but no problem was not bothering or interfering with anyone. Dual carriageway was empty in front apart from a car ahead in the left lane. As i caught up to him and moved over to pass he straddled the centre line for almost quarter of a mile to stop me passing?? Then brake checked me at the roundabout?
Because i dared to try and overtake, pathetic.
Have driven in different countries around the world and only have this limp dick, feeling that any movement on the road is a challenge to them attitude.

[Porsche911R]

Rawwr said:

How much of that was due to poor driving and how much was due to victimisation, in your opinion?

hard to say. I have been accused of speeding and drinking on all 3 accounts, none of which were true.
never been told to even do a producer.

I doubt it's poor driving as I take pride in the way I drive, even though I overtake a lot.
I have also been followed home by police cars twice, one even got out and said I was driving a bit fast my response was " so were you"
and he just went !

I do drive quite fast and I do over take a lot of cars inc Police cars if they are pissing about.

I just find the ave non traffic cop is clueless. the Traffic Police cars seem ok and don't mind you dong 85mph at all if you are safe and leave a 2 second gap. most times the under cover cars pinch my gap and sit in at 85mph waiting for the nutters to go by.

Edited by Porsche911R on Tuesday 24th October 11:50

[Countdown]

Rawwr said:

boz1 said:

Err nope, if you can't get around safely without the overtakee changing speed or direction, it's reckless and you're a tt.

If I have to "facilitate" your overtake, I will do so to avoid a crash. I will also make it abundantly clear what I think of your driving and I may report you.

I'll facilitate anyone passing me by backing off for a moment (rolling off the throttle, not braking), just for everyone's safety. It's no skin off my nose and just makes everything that little bit easier for everyone.

Me as well. A good overtake is something to admire, especially in today's congested roads.

What's annoying is having to brake hard to avoid driving into the back of people who are unable to judge spaces between cars and are oblivious to how bad their driving is. The type of people who wonder why they get flashing headlights and coffee bean gestures so often......