LOL. Reckless Porsche Driver in Video has 911 for sale on PH

[vonhosen]

OddCat said:

First overtake of camera car was fine. Big gap.

In what world is approximately a one second gap a big gap?

[av185]

OddCat said:

He even indicated to move back in bless him.

Edited by OddCat on Sunday 22 October 17:29

Edited by OddCat on Sunday 22 October 17:30

Ah yes, the needless indicate.

Sure sign of the guilt trip driver.

[OddCat]

vonhosen said:

OddCat said:

First overtake of camera car was fine. Big gap.

In what world is approximately a one second gap a big gap?

Well, it was big enough to nip into without the camera car needing to brake (as they were all going the same speed).

Camera car was a menace. He should either overtake or leave a gap big enough for other people to comfortably do so.

[768]

vonhosen said:

In what world is approximately a one second gap a big gap?

It's about 180k miles at the speed of light in this one, which I think is not insubstantial. Probably a bit less at the speeds in the video.

[Markbarry1977]

vonhosen said:

OddCat said:

First overtake of camera car was fine. Big gap.

In what world is approximately a one second gap a big gap?

Two second rule, in that case the camera car is following too close.

[vonhosen]

OddCat said:

vonhosen said:

OddCat said:

First overtake of camera car was fine. Big gap.

In what world is approximately a one second gap a big gap?

Well, it was big enough to nip into without the camera car needing to brake (as they were all going the same speed).

Camera car was a menace. He should either overtake or leave a gap big enough for other people to comfortably do so.

You can fit a car in not much more than a car length, but it doesn't mean you should.
As said earlier, somebody behaving like a bit of isn't justification for behaving like a total yourself.
That's not an appropriate gap for that overtake & the fact the camera driver isn't leaving a bigger gap doesn't make it so.

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

Markbarry1977 said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

mrfunex said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

I don't think it was that bad, not a great show admittedly. Both his overtakes were on straights, and I think the flashing car nervously over-reacted. His protest swerve in response was a dhead move mind, what if that had scared the other driver and he over compensated for it, in to a tree.

Exactly. You have no idea *at all* how the oncoming driver is going to react.

A friend of mine, years back, performed an overtake, leaving a little less room than he thought, on the way home from work. The oncoming driver did exactly as you say, and overreacted. Swerved into the hedge and unfortunately hit a tree within the hedge. The oncoming driver was killed more or less instantly and shortly after my friend went to prison for 6 months.

It was ‘interesting’ to hear the story from both sides. On one hand, my friend; who made an error of judgement and spent half a year inside, and a further two years on a tag, no driving licence loss of job, etc etc. On the other, a family with no father, who viewed the ‘killer’ as getting away with it as he was only sentenced to 6 months.

Food for thought. Certainly slowed me down.

Jesus, that is sobering stuff indeed.

I know fermit and sexy Sarah are from the Nottingham area. I’m from Newark and a similar thing happens on the a46 ring road. Single carriageway but easily wide enough to have a third middle lane to allow for overtaking.

Last year a driver decided to do an overtake of a lorry just after the Farndon Island easily enough room for three cars. The young girl coming the other way had recently passed her test and panicked. Swearved and lost control going down an embankment and died in the accident.

If she hadn’t panicked, there would have been plenty of room. There was footage from a dashcam in the lorry the driver doing the overtake was passing. He got sent down when in reality the new driver panicked herself off the road.

There was a thread on here recently about green p plates. I think they should be mandatory for all new drivers.

We are, not far from you, I'm from Southwell. Same age too if that's your DOB in your username.
I missed that piece of news, was she on Newark bypass between Mc'ds roundabout and the sugar plant one?

[vonhosen]

Markbarry1977 said:

vonhosen said:

OddCat said:

First overtake of camera car was fine. Big gap.

In what world is approximately a one second gap a big gap?

Two second rule, in that case the camera car is following too close.

I haven't said the camera car is following at an appropriate distance. That doesn't justify the Porsche driver's actions.
If somebody is following too close to start with, shoving your vehicle in there doesn't help make it better.

[curlie467]

Markbarry1977 said:

I know fermit and sexy Sarah are from the Nottingham area. I’m from Newark and a similar thing happens on the a46 ring road. Single carriageway but easily wide enough to have a third middle lane to allow for overtaking.

Last year a driver decided to do an overtake of a lorry just after the Farndon Island easily enough room for three cars. The young girl coming the other way had recently passed her test and panicked. Swearved and lost control going down an embankment and died in the accident.

If she hadn’t panicked, there would have been plenty of room. There was footage from a dashcam in the lorry the driver doing the overtake was passing. He got sent down when in reality the new driver panicked herself off the road.

There was a thread on here recently about green p plates. I think they should be mandatory for all new drivers.

While the stories are horrible, what would a p plate have achieved?

[vonhosen]

768 said:

vonhosen said:

In what world is approximately a one second gap a big gap?

It's about 180k miles at the speed of light in this one, which I think is not insubstantial. Probably a bit less at the speeds in the video.

180k miles is not substantial if you are travelling at the speed of light though, just as the gap in the video is not substantial at the speeds they were travelling.

[Markbarry1977]

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Markbarry1977 said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

mrfunex said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

I don't think it was that bad, not a great show admittedly. Both his overtakes were on straights, and I think the flashing car nervously over-reacted. His protest swerve in response was a dhead move mind, what if that had scared the other driver and he over compensated for it, in to a tree.

Exactly. You have no idea *at all* how the oncoming driver is going to react.

A friend of mine, years back, performed an overtake, leaving a little less room than he thought, on the way home from work. The oncoming driver did exactly as you say, and overreacted. Swerved into the hedge and unfortunately hit a tree within the hedge. The oncoming driver was killed more or less instantly and shortly after my friend went to prison for 6 months.

It was ‘interesting’ to hear the story from both sides. On one hand, my friend; who made an error of judgement and spent half a year inside, and a further two years on a tag, no driving licence loss of job, etc etc. On the other, a family with no father, who viewed the ‘killer’ as getting away with it as he was only sentenced to 6 months.

Food for thought. Certainly slowed me down.

Jesus, that is sobering stuff indeed.

I know fermit and sexy Sarah are from the Nottingham area. I’m from Newark and a similar thing happens on the a46 ring road. Single carriageway but easily wide enough to have a third middle lane to allow for overtaking.

Last year a driver decided to do an overtake of a lorry just after the Farndon Island easily enough room for three cars. The young girl coming the other way had recently passed her test and panicked. Swearved and lost control going down an embankment and died in the accident.

If she hadn’t panicked, there would have been plenty of room. There was footage from a dashcam in the lorry the driver doing the overtake was passing. He got sent down when in reality the new driver panicked herself off the road.

There was a thread on here recently about green p plates. I think they should be mandatory for all new drivers.

We are, not far from you, I'm from Southwell. Same age too if that's your DOB in your username.
I missed that piece of news, was she on Newark bypass between Mc'ds roundabout and the sugar plant one?

No farndon and the sugar plant island I believe. There is footage of it about. Not the actual crash but the overtaking and her starting to swerve. It’s the reason the whole section is now white cheveroned to stop any overtaking.

[768]

vonhosen said:

180k miles is not substantial if you are travelling at the speed of light though, just as the gap in the video is not substantial at the speeds they were travelling.

Subjective opinion.

[vonhosen]

av185 said:

OddCat said:

He even indicated to move back in bless him.

Edited by OddCat on Sunday 22 October 17:29

Edited by OddCat on Sunday 22 October 17:30

Ah yes, the needless indicate.

Sure sign of the guilt trip driver.

A distress flare due to a up?

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

Markbarry1977 said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Markbarry1977 said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

mrfunex said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

I don't think it was that bad, not a great show admittedly. Both his overtakes were on straights, and I think the flashing car nervously over-reacted. His protest swerve in response was a dhead move mind, what if that had scared the other driver and he over compensated for it, in to a tree.

Exactly. You have no idea *at all* how the oncoming driver is going to react.

A friend of mine, years back, performed an overtake, leaving a little less room than he thought, on the way home from work. The oncoming driver did exactly as you say, and overreacted. Swerved into the hedge and unfortunately hit a tree within the hedge. The oncoming driver was killed more or less instantly and shortly after my friend went to prison for 6 months.

It was ‘interesting’ to hear the story from both sides. On one hand, my friend; who made an error of judgement and spent half a year inside, and a further two years on a tag, no driving licence loss of job, etc etc. On the other, a family with no father, who viewed the ‘killer’ as getting away with it as he was only sentenced to 6 months.

Food for thought. Certainly slowed me down.

Jesus, that is sobering stuff indeed.

I know fermit and sexy Sarah are from the Nottingham area. I’m from Newark and a similar thing happens on the a46 ring road. Single carriageway but easily wide enough to have a third middle lane to allow for overtaking.

Last year a driver decided to do an overtake of a lorry just after the Farndon Island easily enough room for three cars. The young girl coming the other way had recently passed her test and panicked. Swearved and lost control going down an embankment and died in the accident.

If she hadn’t panicked, there would have been plenty of room. There was footage from a dashcam in the lorry the driver doing the overtake was passing. He got sent down when in reality the new driver panicked herself off the road.

There was a thread on here recently about green p plates. I think they should be mandatory for all new drivers.

We are, not far from you, I'm from Southwell. Same age too if that's your DOB in your username.
I missed that piece of news, was she on Newark bypass between Mc'ds roundabout and the sugar plant one?

No farndon and the sugar plant island I believe. There is footage of it about. Not the actual crash but the overtaking and her starting to swerve. It’s the reason the whole section is now white cheveroned to stop any overtaking.

Oh yes, other side of the roundabout. I was muddling up where Farndon is, for some reason I told myself it was in the vicinity of Brownhills.

[vonhosen]

768 said:

vonhosen said:

180k miles is not substantial if you are travelling at the speed of light though, just as the gap in the video is not substantial at the speeds they were travelling.

Subjective opinion.

Obviously it's the opinion the authorities (Police/CPS in deciding action) & Courts (in determining guilt/sentence) would have that matter.

[768]

Agreed. Would have.

[Markbarry1977]

curlie467 said:

Markbarry1977 said:

I know fermit and sexy Sarah are from the Nottingham area. I’m from Newark and a similar thing happens on the a46 ring road. Single carriageway but easily wide enough to have a third middle lane to allow for overtaking.

Last year a driver decided to do an overtake of a lorry just after the Farndon Island easily enough room for three cars. The young girl coming the other way had recently passed her test and panicked. Swearved and lost control going down an embankment and died in the accident.

If she hadn’t panicked, there would have been plenty of room. There was footage from a dashcam in the lorry the driver doing the overtake was passing. He got sent down when in reality the new driver panicked herself off the road.

There was a thread on here recently about green p plates. I think they should be mandatory for all new drivers.

While the stories are horrible, what would a p plate have achieved?

I certainly give people with green p plates a wide birth, try and give them a great more attention as you just never know. I’m not saying it would have prevented her death but it might have alerted the overtaking driver of the oncoming drivers lack of experience and altered his decision to overtake.

I personally think places like Australia and Canada have a good system where there are restrictions on your licence when you first pass. Things like driving at night, number of passengers and motorway driving have restrictions. Maybe a way of removing these restrictions could be the pass plus.

[Atomic12C]

Porsche driver in that video is a bellend.
The overtakes were aggressive forcing other motorists to take sudden action and on one of the over takes he swerves towards the oncoming car which flashed lights at him.

Bell-end.

As others have said already, an early 997 is not something I'd take a chance on, I think many others are well aware of the gamble with those engines.
I've heard people (997 owners I guess), playing down the engine issues, but then I've heard some Porsche mechanics stating that they are ticking time bombs.

[Hungrymc]

Well, I’m an overtaker, but both of those were a bit too much for me. The first one, there wasn’t enough room to pull back in (that’s maybe not great driving by the dash cam car, but it still means the overtake wasn’t on). And he had to pull into that space as the visibility was poor due to the road going left.

We don’t need to discuss the brake check... no need for dash cam light flash, and absolutely no need for the brake check.

The second one I suspect was a bit of panic to open up some space on the dash cam. The camera can change perception of distance, and some oncoming cars will flash just because they see a car on the wrong side of the road - but this wasn’t like that, it was much too marginal. And then the swerve, appalling behaviour.

Very poor driving by the chap with the Porsche in my opinion. I wouldn’t have made either of those overtakes in a car (maybe I’d have done the first one, and realized it was a bad overtake and I shouldn’t have done it). I would have done the first one safely and without bothering anyone on my motorbike.

[pixelatedJH]

DJFish said:

People drive badly everyday, sometimes it's a one-off, sometimes it's a regular occurrence for them.
The only reason this bloke was in the press was because he was driving a Porsche.

This. I did wonder if the video would be online if the Porsche driver was in a diesel Seat Ibiza...