ULEZ charge in 2021
Discussion
Killboy said:
funkyrobot said:
You are coming across as a bit of a tit. Why do you care about what amuses me?
I think you need to calm down.
People seem to be getting hot an bothered about things that dont affect them, but they are telling others to calm down. I think you need to calm down.
You must have been talking about Black Cab drivers and their filthy f
king taxis 
Edited by T-195 on Tuesday 9th April 11:41
I sold my 24 year old GT-Four Celica partly because of ULEZ, I cannot imagine this will be the last of it either it will stretch further the more money it generates. My actual address ends in Surrey, but for the purposes of when money is required I will then become London. I think the crux of it is what is London? I don't feel like I live in London, but for some reason many people use the M25 as a definition for it, even commentators on TV class Watford as a London football team which is bonkers if you think about it. I am in the ULEZ in Richmond, but certainly don't feel like I live in London.
DieselDemon said:
Does this affect me if I run vegetable oil in my 2006 diesel? Or does this affect only users of diesel/petrol fuel?
Check your car on their web site. If it's in the not allowed group then it is not allowed in. I know you can have motorbikes testing and if they pass then allowed in but I don't know about cars. If you convert and register as electric you can also get in for free.funkyrobot said:
C70R said:
funkyrobot said:
C70R said:
I don't understand why that's funny?
Almost all petrol cars sold after January 2005 in the UK would need to have been Euro 4 compliant. So therefore your car is compliant. Am I missing something?
Almost all petrol cars sold after January 2005 in the UK would need to have been Euro 4 compliant. So therefore your car is compliant. Am I missing something?
Random question, apropos of nothing - do you even live in London?
Edited by C70R on Tuesday 9th April 10:50
I think you need to calm down.
I'm just interested why someone obviously not from London is taking delight that his compliant car is compliant.
Or are you 'sticking it to the man' too?
DieselDemon said:
Does this affect me if I run vegetable oil in my 2006 diesel? Or does this affect only users of diesel/petrol fuel?
It affects you, and ignore the TfL vehicle checker as it’s still inaccurate. Effectively, if your diesel car didn’t meet Euro 6 when built (and it obviously didn’t), you’re paying the tax (unless you can find a supplier of an approved retrofit option which will be a) very expensive, and, b) impossible on a 13 year old car). coldel said:
I sold my 24 year old GT-Four Celica partly because of ULEZ, I cannot imagine this will be the last of it either it will stretch further the more money it generates. My actual address ends in Surrey, but for the purposes of when money is required I will then become London. I think the crux of it is what is London? I don't feel like I live in London, but for some reason many people use the M25 as a definition for it, even commentators on TV class Watford as a London football team which is bonkers if you think about it. I am in the ULEZ in Richmond, but certainly don't feel like I live in London.
Wait...So you don't live in the proposed 2021 ULEZ expansion area (it runs along the A205 in East Sheen and over Kew Bridge - Richmond is clearly outside), but you already felt compelled to sell your car because of it?
Do you think you might just be overreacting a tiny bit?
T-195 said:
Outside the zone here in BR8 but our BTL in Lee is about 100ft inside the death zone.
What idiot thought this would be a vote winner.
I mean, he was right... 54% of people voted in favour of it during the consultation.What idiot thought this would be a vote winner.
But apart from that, who in their right mind would think this is a good idea?
C70R said:
Wait...
So you don't live in the proposed 2021 ULEZ expansion area (it runs along the A205 in East Sheen and over Kew Bridge - Richmond is clearly outside), but you already felt compelled to sell your car because of it?
Do you think you might just be overreacting a tiny bit?
Wait....So you don't live in the proposed 2021 ULEZ expansion area (it runs along the A205 in East Sheen and over Kew Bridge - Richmond is clearly outside), but you already felt compelled to sell your car because of it?
Do you think you might just be overreacting a tiny bit?
I have to drive into that zone all the time because it is literally 400m from my house, so yes, of course it was a consideration. And no its not an overreaction, it impacts what I use the car for. Just because someone doesn't live in it those who live on the border don't always come out their house, get in the car and drive away from it, that's just daft. And spend a bit of time reading my previous comment, it was part of the reason, not the compelling reason.
Edited by coldel on Tuesday 9th April 12:00
coldel said:
C70R said:
Wait...
So you don't live in the proposed 2021 ULEZ expansion area (it runs along the A205 in East Sheen and over Kew Bridge - Richmond is clearly outside), but you already felt compelled to sell your car because of it?
Do you think you might just be overreacting a tiny bit?
Wait....So you don't live in the proposed 2021 ULEZ expansion area (it runs along the A205 in East Sheen and over Kew Bridge - Richmond is clearly outside), but you already felt compelled to sell your car because of it?
Do you think you might just be overreacting a tiny bit?
I have to drive into that zone all the time because it is literally 400m from my house, so yes, of course it was a consideration. And no its not an overreaction, it impacts what I use the car for. Just because someone doesn't live in it those who live on the border don't always come out their house, get in the car and drive away from it, that's just daft. And spend a bit of time reading my previous comment, it was part of the reason, not the compelling reason.
Edited by coldel on Tuesday 9th April 12:00
But you thought you'd just mention that for added impact?
Right...
C70R said:
I mean, he was right... 54% of people voted in favour of it during the consultation.
But apart from that, who in their right mind would think this is a good idea?
54% of 37,513 people voted in favour. Just 20,257 people out of London's ~8m population specifically voted for it.But apart from that, who in their right mind would think this is a good idea?
C70R said:
So it wasn't the main reason you sold your car?
But you thought you'd just mention that for added impact?
Right...
No it wasn't the main reason, I didn't say it was, but it certainly was a consideration. I said that in the post, you just didn't read it properly and therefore you didn't understand correctly before slightly smarmy and condescending response was put in print on the thread.But you thought you'd just mention that for added impact?
Right...
There are plenty of people in the same boat around the border line of the ULEZ making similar calls on cars that they might otherwise have kept. It's quite frankly a sensible and obvious factor of car ownership come 2021 in areas around the ULEZ, even if you are not in it how often are cars used that do not qualify that would impact your usage of it.
coldel said:
I sold my 24 year old GT-Four Celica partly because of ULEZ, I cannot imagine this will be the last of it either it will stretch further the more money it generates. My actual address ends in Surrey, but for the purposes of when money is required I will then become London. I think the crux of it is what is London? I don't feel like I live in London, but for some reason many people use the M25 as a definition for it, even commentators on TV class Watford as a London football team which is bonkers if you think about it. I am in the ULEZ in Richmond, but certainly don't feel like I live in London.
Central LondonLondon
Greater London (M25)
Is how I see it.
Tony Gamble said:
j_4m
You said:-
"You can apply for a case by case exemption, I think if you can demonstrate that your car meets Euro 4 as a minimum then they'll let you off."
Are you sure that applies to a car? I have read it does for motorcycles but nowhere have I read that about cars.
Tony
I'm not entirely sure, you're right and it doesn't specifically say anywhere. I'd say try writing to them first, you might be able to put it through an IVA and have it re-classified.You said:-
"You can apply for a case by case exemption, I think if you can demonstrate that your car meets Euro 4 as a minimum then they'll let you off."
Are you sure that applies to a car? I have read it does for motorcycles but nowhere have I read that about cars.
Tony
hyphen said:
Central London
London
Greater London (M25)
Is how I see it.
Yes could agree to a point, I guess its funny how we use roads to define boundaries for this because its convenient. The north and south circular are not actual circles, in fact they make more of a flattened oval, the southern bit doesn't actually go very far south of central london and the northern bit goes much further north. So you can still be much closer to central London in the south and not pay ULEZ charge but be much further out north and still pay. London
Greater London (M25)
Is how I see it.
All that said it is convenient, ideally you would map out the proper boundary and probably take into account the pollution production of individual boroughs, but hey they would cost a fortune to implement
NomduJour said:
It affects you, and ignore the TfL vehicle checker as it’s still inaccurate. Effectively, if your diesel car didn’t meet Euro 6 when built (and it obviously didn’t), you’re paying the tax (unless you can find a supplier of an approved retrofit option which will be a) very expensive, and, b) impossible on a 13 year old car).
Further, you're affected even if running on LPG, or air, as TfL don't want to concern themselves with anything else other than the (fraudulent) emissions data provided by the manufacturer based on an arbitrary EU standard which likely favoured our deceitful German chums in the first placeGassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff