ULEZ charge in 2021
Discussion
Tony Gamble said:
Well the first thing I have done is to speak to my contact at The Fulham Society. They are our local group who monitor all planning applications and government schemes that are likely to impinge on us as local residents. My contact said they had discussed ULEZ at a recent meeting but when I outlined what I saw as its impact she was amazed. "We had no idea" were her words.
It was this particular lady, who is on the board of another local charity dealing with the elderly, who mentioned the way it would make those elderly more isolated. They rely on their little put-put car to get them to the surgery, bridge club, book club, etc. Yes, the local buses are brilliant but there isn't one that goes from where we live to my wife's doctor - and it is too far to walk if you are unwell.
I'll make sure Greg Hands, local MP, knows my concerns when his canvasser turns up for the election that seems to be brewing. And aren't I soon likely to be asked to elect an MEP?
I live in a block of sixty apartments. We have a residents meeting coming up in June. I'll get ULEZ to be put on the agenda.
I cannot disagree with you when you say that apathy dominates.
But surely we have to try?
Tony
PS. Answer to your first question on mileage. Probably on average four times a week - to cover, in total, four miles.
It begs the question are you heavily disabled or simply unable to walk or are you carrying a sIt was this particular lady, who is on the board of another local charity dealing with the elderly, who mentioned the way it would make those elderly more isolated. They rely on their little put-put car to get them to the surgery, bridge club, book club, etc. Yes, the local buses are brilliant but there isn't one that goes from where we live to my wife's doctor - and it is too far to walk if you are unwell.
I'll make sure Greg Hands, local MP, knows my concerns when his canvasser turns up for the election that seems to be brewing. And aren't I soon likely to be asked to elect an MEP?
I live in a block of sixty apartments. We have a residents meeting coming up in June. I'll get ULEZ to be put on the agenda.
I cannot disagree with you when you say that apathy dominates.
But surely we have to try?
Tony
PS. Answer to your first question on mileage. Probably on average four times a week - to cover, in total, four miles.
t ton of stuff? I think unless you were that's probably something that could be done on foot.RemyMartin81D said:
It begs the question are you heavily disabled or simply unable to walk or are you carrying a s
t ton of stuff? I think unless you were that's probably something that could be done on foot.Tony Gamble said:
OK. I am new around here Killboy and swamp.
Reading the intro for PistonHeads I got the impression that it represented a group of people who treated their cars with care and respect. I assumed it would be a source of information from people who would be as interested in other poster's points of view as much as their own. Foregive me if I am wrong, but that is how the group portrays itself.
Forums come and go. I have been using them since the turn of the century to learn more about technical subjects. In my case a wide range from photography to investing to gardening and now to motor cars. The forums that go are the ones that become dominated by a few noisy bigots who speak but don't want to listen. In the end they kill the forum because the others drift away and the forum becomes like a childrens' playground where games are no longer played and replaced by shouting.
I am not a car fanatic but one of my hobbies is to organise a classic car annual event. An entry that came in yesterday was a 1954 Ford Consul. Do I follow Killboy and swamps advice and tell the owner to empty the glove box and drive it to the scrapyard carefully?
OK Killboy and swamp, a 1999 Audi may not have quite the same heritage. But had either of you wondered why I'd quite like to keep it running? More importantly, and I can see both of you post frequently, had either of you wondered whether you could offer me some positive advice?
I can see from some of the other posters since I have been here for the last couple of weeks that I am not the only one feeling frustration. Me, I have gone to the cloakroom and collected my coat. It is Good Friday. I'll wait in the doorway and listen for a little bit longer. But I doubt if I will be here on Easter Monday.
Parklife!Reading the intro for PistonHeads I got the impression that it represented a group of people who treated their cars with care and respect. I assumed it would be a source of information from people who would be as interested in other poster's points of view as much as their own. Foregive me if I am wrong, but that is how the group portrays itself.
Forums come and go. I have been using them since the turn of the century to learn more about technical subjects. In my case a wide range from photography to investing to gardening and now to motor cars. The forums that go are the ones that become dominated by a few noisy bigots who speak but don't want to listen. In the end they kill the forum because the others drift away and the forum becomes like a childrens' playground where games are no longer played and replaced by shouting.
I am not a car fanatic but one of my hobbies is to organise a classic car annual event. An entry that came in yesterday was a 1954 Ford Consul. Do I follow Killboy and swamps advice and tell the owner to empty the glove box and drive it to the scrapyard carefully?
OK Killboy and swamp, a 1999 Audi may not have quite the same heritage. But had either of you wondered why I'd quite like to keep it running? More importantly, and I can see both of you post frequently, had either of you wondered whether you could offer me some positive advice?
I can see from some of the other posters since I have been here for the last couple of weeks that I am not the only one feeling frustration. Me, I have gone to the cloakroom and collected my coat. It is Good Friday. I'll wait in the doorway and listen for a little bit longer. But I doubt if I will be here on Easter Monday.
I live in Birmingham which is about to bring in their own version of the ULEZ shortly.
The plan was to get a MK6 GTD it was fine with the ULEZ checker a few months ago when I checked but with the latest roll out it doesn't meet the requirements thus subject to a daily fee.
So going forward I will have to skip getting the above car as I believe Birmingham are adopting the exact same standards set by ULEZ for London, shame as I really like the MK6 GTD, as i'm also saving for a house don't really want to spend 10k plus on the mk7 version so will look for a cheap 1.4 petrol or something.
The plan was to get a MK6 GTD it was fine with the ULEZ checker a few months ago when I checked but with the latest roll out it doesn't meet the requirements thus subject to a daily fee.
So going forward I will have to skip getting the above car as I believe Birmingham are adopting the exact same standards set by ULEZ for London, shame as I really like the MK6 GTD, as i'm also saving for a house don't really want to spend 10k plus on the mk7 version so will look for a cheap 1.4 petrol or something.
Yep, London's public transport system...envy of the world 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48068...
Told you it was a sthole 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48068...
Told you it was a s
thole Mick Cash, general secretary of the RMT union, said: "These shocking statistics show just what a dirty and disgusting job our cleaner members have to do.
As the head of a union I don’t think it’s acceptable for him to be descriminating in such a manner against his own members. It shouldn’t matter whether his union members are cleaner or dirtier than each other. I really though we had moved beyond this sort of behaviour.
Another aspect to take away from this is that at least the tube carriages and buses are getting cleaned. Just imagine how septic all those black cabs and Uber’s are!!!
The real problem is that London is just so popular and with such a good public transport system that huge numbers of people use it all day long and as we know very clearly just from this thread alone, some people are a bit incompetent.
As the head of a union I don’t think it’s acceptable for him to be descriminating in such a manner against his own members. It shouldn’t matter whether his union members are cleaner or dirtier than each other. I really though we had moved beyond this sort of behaviour.
Another aspect to take away from this is that at least the tube carriages and buses are getting cleaned. Just imagine how septic all those black cabs and Uber’s are!!!
The real problem is that London is just so popular and with such a good public transport system that huge numbers of people use it all day long and as we know very clearly just from this thread alone, some people are a bit incompetent.
captainhook said:
I live in Birmingham which is about to bring in their own version of the ULEZ shortly.
The plan was to get a MK6 GTD it was fine with the ULEZ checker a few months ago when I checked but with the latest roll out it doesn't meet the requirements thus subject to a daily fee.
So going forward I will have to skip getting the above car as I believe Birmingham are adopting the exact same standards set by ULEZ for London, shame as I really like the MK6 GTD, as i'm also saving for a house don't really want to spend 10k plus on the mk7 version so will look for a cheap 1.4 petrol or something.
Birmingham and other cities need to think very carefully about this. London can get away with it because of its scale, high paying jobs and good public transport. Other places may find that a proportion of their workers and shoppers stop going there, and once they’ve got out of the habit of going there, they won’t return.The plan was to get a MK6 GTD it was fine with the ULEZ checker a few months ago when I checked but with the latest roll out it doesn't meet the requirements thus subject to a daily fee.
So going forward I will have to skip getting the above car as I believe Birmingham are adopting the exact same standards set by ULEZ for London, shame as I really like the MK6 GTD, as i'm also saving for a house don't really want to spend 10k plus on the mk7 version so will look for a cheap 1.4 petrol or something.
captainhook said:
I live in Birmingham which is about to bring in their own version of the ULEZ shortly.
The plan was to get a MK6 GTD it was fine with the ULEZ checker a few months ago when I checked but with the latest roll out it doesn't meet the requirements thus subject to a daily fee.
So going forward I will have to skip getting the above car as I believe Birmingham are adopting the exact same standards set by ULEZ for London, shame as I really like the MK6 GTD, as i'm also saving for a house don't really want to spend 10k plus on the mk7 version so will look for a cheap 1.4 petrol or something.
I wasn’t aware Birmingham was bringing in a ULEZ or similar charge? The plan was to get a MK6 GTD it was fine with the ULEZ checker a few months ago when I checked but with the latest roll out it doesn't meet the requirements thus subject to a daily fee.
So going forward I will have to skip getting the above car as I believe Birmingham are adopting the exact same standards set by ULEZ for London, shame as I really like the MK6 GTD, as i'm also saving for a house don't really want to spend 10k plus on the mk7 version so will look for a cheap 1.4 petrol or something.
Ar63 said:
For London residents of the expanded zone, how will ulez be enforced?
Will it be a blanket daily charge, or will they have some way to track when I hop in my car and drive around (even if I don't go out of the boundary) and be charged for that day only?
Don’t worry they’ll put your council tax to very good use and stick expensive anpr cameras everywhere on every road. Will it be a blanket daily charge, or will they have some way to track when I hop in my car and drive around (even if I don't go out of the boundary) and be charged for that day only?
- sarcasm about good use of council tax fully intended*
Ar63 said:
For London residents of the expanded zone, how will ulez be enforced?
Will it be a blanket daily charge, or will they have some way to track when I hop in my car and drive around (even if I don't go out of the boundary) and be charged for that day only?
£12.50 for driving off of your road, or until you pass a camera.Will it be a blanket daily charge, or will they have some way to track when I hop in my car and drive around (even if I don't go out of the boundary) and be charged for that day only?
Thanks.
Sadiq
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R Mutt said:
Ar63 said:
For London residents of the expanded zone, how will ulez be enforced?
Will it be a blanket daily charge, or will they have some way to track when I hop in my car and drive around (even if I don't go out of the boundary) and be charged for that day only?
£12.50 for driving off of your road, or until you pass a camera.Will it be a blanket daily charge, or will they have some way to track when I hop in my car and drive around (even if I don't go out of the boundary) and be charged for that day only?
Thanks.
Sadiq
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I can't see that they will put a camera at the end of every street (and throughout the zone), I too live about 200m inside the zone and I've checked and there are at least 13 different stty little side street routes through the residential rabbit warren, that I can take between where I park and the South Circular (i.e. outside the zone).
It will surely be a logistical, planning, and cost nightmare to cover all those roads with cameras and that's just one tiny part of the expanded ULEZ area, probably 0.1% of it.
I am sure there will be cameras here and there on major roads inside the expanded zone, but I imagine the majority of the enforcement will be with roving enforcement that is in a different street every day, either people on foot watching and logging moving cars, or those smart cars with cameras on top that some of the boroughs use to monitor banned turn offences.
Alternatively maybe a massive climbdown when TfL realise it's simply impossible to cost effectively enforce over such a large area, we will see.
tty little side street routes through the residential rabbit warren, that I can take between where I park and the South Circular (i.e. outside the zone).It will surely be a logistical, planning, and cost nightmare to cover all those roads with cameras and that's just one tiny part of the expanded ULEZ area, probably 0.1% of it.
I am sure there will be cameras here and there on major roads inside the expanded zone, but I imagine the majority of the enforcement will be with roving enforcement that is in a different street every day, either people on foot watching and logging moving cars, or those smart cars with cameras on top that some of the boroughs use to monitor banned turn offences.
Alternatively maybe a massive climbdown when TfL realise it's simply impossible to cost effectively enforce over such a large area, we will see.
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