ULEZ charge in 2021
Discussion
Heathrow to have its own ULEZ in 2022: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/106963/heat...
Same rules as the TFL ULEZ, including exemption for old black cabs.
Same rules as the TFL ULEZ, including exemption for old black cabs.
mgv8 said:
In my case, I could see what was on its way so dumped the car before its value dropped to much.
In late 2016 I was struggling to find the right petrol E Class and was vaguely considering going over to the dark side when a mate in the trade warned me about the incoming regs. Dodged a bullet there.Looking round my local friends and acquaintances I know of two people who have switched to Mitsubishi PHEV's in the last two years, two who have gone for RR hybrids and two who have gone for the large hybrid Volvo XC. All bar one had diesels before.
So ULEZ seems to having to be having the desired effect - getting diesels off the school run and local trips in stop start traffic.
swamp said:
Heathrow to have its own ULEZ in 2022: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/106963/heat...
Same rules as the TFL ULEZ, including exemption for old black cabs.
Good job all those planes are Euro 6 compliant. Same rules as the TFL ULEZ, including exemption for old black cabs.
AC43 said:
In late 2016 I was struggling to find the right petrol E Class and was vaguely considering going over to the dark side when a mate in the trade warned me about the incoming regs. Dodged a bullet there.
Looking round my local friends and acquaintances I know of two people who have switched to Mitsubishi PHEV's in the last two years, two who have gone for RR hybrids and two who have gone for the large hybrid Volvo XC. All bar one had diesels before.
So ULEZ seems to having to be having the desired effect - getting diesels off the school run and local trips in stop start traffic.
You’re not dissuading me that this is a tax on poor people. Looking round my local friends and acquaintances I know of two people who have switched to Mitsubishi PHEV's in the last two years, two who have gone for RR hybrids and two who have gone for the large hybrid Volvo XC. All bar one had diesels before.
So ULEZ seems to having to be having the desired effect - getting diesels off the school run and local trips in stop start traffic.
If your post is a reflection on anything, it seems British kids are still going to be ferried to school by suv, they’re still not going to get enough exercise, and still possibly remain either in vehicles or indoors where the air quality can be much worse than outside.
AC43 said:
In late 2016 I was struggling to find the right petrol E Class and was vaguely considering going over to the dark side when a mate in the trade warned me about the incoming regs. Dodged a bullet there.
Looking round my local friends and acquaintances I know of two people who have switched to Mitsubishi PHEV's in the last two years, two who have gone for RR hybrids and two who have gone for the large hybrid Volvo XC. All bar one had diesels before.
So ULEZ seems to having to be having the desired effect - getting diesels off the school run and local trips in stop start traffic.
I source vehicles for people & having seen an initial swing towards hybrids/petrols most people with SUV's seem to be coming back to Euro6 diesels especially with cars like the SQ5 being hybrid diesels why buy a petrol if a diesel is actually what suits you best.Looking round my local friends and acquaintances I know of two people who have switched to Mitsubishi PHEV's in the last two years, two who have gone for RR hybrids and two who have gone for the large hybrid Volvo XC. All bar one had diesels before.
So ULEZ seems to having to be having the desired effect - getting diesels off the school run and local trips in stop start traffic.
The one good thing from all this is that I'm finding clients are more aware of their usage & are looking for cars that suit.
swamp said:
Heathrow to have its own ULEZ in 2022: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/106963/heat...
Same rules as the TFL ULEZ, including exemption for old black cabs.
That's interesting as I wasn't aware of it. Same rules as the TFL ULEZ, including exemption for old black cabs.
Luckily my old BMWs are petrols, so are ULEZ compliant (for now) as I do sometimes drop off/pick up friends and family at Heathrow.
heebeegeetee said:
AC43 said:
In late 2016 I was struggling to find the right petrol E Class and was vaguely considering going over to the dark side when a mate in the trade warned me about the incoming regs. Dodged a bullet there.
Looking round my local friends and acquaintances I know of two people who have switched to Mitsubishi PHEV's in the last two years, two who have gone for RR hybrids and two who have gone for the large hybrid Volvo XC. All bar one had diesels before.
So ULEZ seems to having to be having the desired effect - getting diesels off the school run and local trips in stop start traffic.
You’re not dissuading me that this is a tax on poor people. Looking round my local friends and acquaintances I know of two people who have switched to Mitsubishi PHEV's in the last two years, two who have gone for RR hybrids and two who have gone for the large hybrid Volvo XC. All bar one had diesels before.
So ULEZ seems to having to be having the desired effect - getting diesels off the school run and local trips in stop start traffic.
If your post is a reflection on anything, it seems British kids are still going to be ferried to school by suv, they’re still not going to get enough exercise, and still possibly remain either in vehicles or indoors where the air quality can be much worse than outside.
But as far as getting the older diesel private cars off the road this is a great thing. People doing loads of short urban journeys should never have been encouraged into them in the first place. I spent much of last year renting on a very busy road junction and some days could could cut the fumes from some of the older diesels with a knife.
ZX10R NIN said:
AC43 said:
In late 2016 I was struggling to find the right petrol E Class and was vaguely considering going over to the dark side when a mate in the trade warned me about the incoming regs. Dodged a bullet there.
Looking round my local friends and acquaintances I know of two people who have switched to Mitsubishi PHEV's in the last two years, two who have gone for RR hybrids and two who have gone for the large hybrid Volvo XC. All bar one had diesels before.
So ULEZ seems to having to be having the desired effect - getting diesels off the school run and local trips in stop start traffic.
I source vehicles for people & having seen an initial swing towards hybrids/petrols most people with SUV's seem to be coming back to Euro6 diesels especially with cars like the SQ5 being hybrid diesels why buy a petrol if a diesel is actually what suits you best.Looking round my local friends and acquaintances I know of two people who have switched to Mitsubishi PHEV's in the last two years, two who have gone for RR hybrids and two who have gone for the large hybrid Volvo XC. All bar one had diesels before.
So ULEZ seems to having to be having the desired effect - getting diesels off the school run and local trips in stop start traffic.
The one good thing from all this is that I'm finding clients are more aware of their usage & are looking for cars that suit.
Some of the 10 year old ones (Euro 4 maybe?) really do honk. And as for the clowns who do a DPF delete and get an over-fuelling remap.....
R Mutt said:
What are vans supposed to run on? Seeing many a few years old that are only Euro5
Looking for a camper. Even with a few trips a year I'd begrudge paying £12.50 a time to take a 3 year old vehicle OUT of London.
Idiotic
Here's the funny thing.Looking for a camper. Even with a few trips a year I'd begrudge paying £12.50 a time to take a 3 year old vehicle OUT of London.
Idiotic
You pollute an area even when you're leaving it.
So you should be disincentivised from regular use.
If you can't afford to add a tenner to the cost of an average holiday for the privilege of owning a polluting vehicle in London, I'd reconsider holidays in general.
AC43 said:
It's certainly a kick in the nuts for sole traders in middle-aged vans.
But as far as getting the older diesel private cars off the road this is a great thing. People doing loads of short urban journeys should never have been encouraged into them in the first place. I spent much of last year renting on a very busy road junction and some days could could cut the fumes from some of the older diesels with a knife.
And this is the bit that few people in this thread seem to have any grasp of.But as far as getting the older diesel private cars off the road this is a great thing. People doing loads of short urban journeys should never have been encouraged into them in the first place. I spent much of last year renting on a very busy road junction and some days could could cut the fumes from some of the older diesels with a knife.
So few contributors (particularly the objectors) have actually experienced living/commuting in Central London.
It's not really a fair argument when the likes of you and I are dealing with the consequences.
C70R said:
Here's the funny thing.
You pollute an area even when you're leaving it.
So you should be disincentivised from regular use.
If you can't afford to add a tenner to the cost of an average holiday for the privilege of owning a polluting vehicle in London, I'd reconsider holidays in general.
I pollute the area inside the border by driving from the border outwards? Yes for about 3 seconds.You pollute an area even when you're leaving it.
So you should be disincentivised from regular use.
If you can't afford to add a tenner to the cost of an average holiday for the privilege of owning a polluting vehicle in London, I'd reconsider holidays in general.
R Mutt said:
C70R said:
Here's the funny thing.
You pollute an area even when you're leaving it.
So you should be disincentivised from regular use.
If you can't afford to add a tenner to the cost of an average holiday for the privilege of owning a polluting vehicle in London, I'd reconsider holidays in general.
I pollute the area inside the border by driving from the border outwards? Yes for about 3 seconds.You pollute an area even when you're leaving it.
So you should be disincentivised from regular use.
If you can't afford to add a tenner to the cost of an average holiday for the privilege of owning a polluting vehicle in London, I'd reconsider holidays in general.
I love lateral thinking.
NomduJour said:
C70R said:
I love lateral thinking.
How about being a fully on-message virtue-signaller for the ULEZ and saving Our Children from evil old cars, whilst at the same time specifically buying the most polluting car you can which still squeezes inside the rules?
AC43 said:
That's interesting & good to see that people are better informed. And, yes the Euro6 ones really seem to have cleaned their act up.
Some of the 10 year old ones (Euro 4 maybe?) really do honk. And as for the clowns who do a DPF delete and get an over-fuelling remap.....
I'd say most DPF deletes were as a result of DPF failure (due to the wrong usage) & faced with a big bill they took the easy at the time option, which was a delete & remap. Now you see a lot less of this, also a remap isn't a bad thing a decent one will make your diesel more efficient on fuel, admittedly on a petrol it normally equates to more carbon emissions.Some of the 10 year old ones (Euro 4 maybe?) really do honk. And as for the clowns who do a DPF delete and get an over-fuelling remap.....
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