ULEZ charge in 2021
Discussion
C70R said:
NomduJour said:
C70R said:
I love lateral thinking.
How about being a fully on-message virtue-signaller for the ULEZ and saving Our Children from evil old cars, whilst at the same time specifically buying the most polluting car you can which still squeezes inside the rules?
You have no idea how much of a bell end these posts make yourself look do you? Blissfully ignorant!cb1965 said:
C70R said:
NomduJour said:
C70R said:
I love lateral thinking.
How about being a fully on-message virtue-signaller for the ULEZ and saving Our Children from evil old cars, whilst at the same time specifically buying the most polluting car you can which still squeezes inside the rules? You have no idea how much of a bell end these posts make yourself look do you? Blissfully ignorant!But I feel rich in other ways.
Particularly in the knowledge of how and when to use reflexive pronouns.
Hope you have a better day today.
hyphen said:
For those thinking its a win.the link said:
Madrid is set to become the first European city to scrap a major urban low-emissions zone after regional polls left a rightwing politician who views 3am traffic jams as part of the city’s cultural identity on the cusp of power.
Isabel Díaz Ayuso, who is expected to become the new Popular party (PP) president of the Madrid region, believes night-time congestion makes the city special and has pledged to reverse a project known as Madrid Central, which has dramatically cut urban pollution.
Isabel Díaz Ayuso, who is expected to become the new Popular party (PP) president of the Madrid region, believes night-time congestion makes the city special and has pledged to reverse a project known as Madrid Central, which has dramatically cut urban pollution.
Killboy said:
hyphen said:
For those thinking its a win.the link said:
Madrid is set to become the first European city to scrap a major urban low-emissions zone after regional polls left a rightwing politician who views 3am traffic jams as part of the city’s cultural identity on the cusp of power.
Isabel Díaz Ayuso, who is expected to become the new Popular party (PP) president of the Madrid region, believes night-time congestion makes the city special and has pledged to reverse a project known as Madrid Central, which has dramatically cut urban pollution.
Isabel Díaz Ayuso, who is expected to become the new Popular party (PP) president of the Madrid region, believes night-time congestion makes the city special and has pledged to reverse a project known as Madrid Central, which has dramatically cut urban pollution.
And the Spanish sometimes wonder why their economy is in the toilet...
hyphen said:
Stupid decisions aside, there are some really positive results in that article."Within a month of its launch last November, Madrid Central had cut urban traffic by up to 24% and nitrogen oxide (NOx) levels by 38%. CO2 emissions also fell by 14%."
Gives me a lot of hope for the ULEZ.
hyphen said:
I don't think anyone should take inspiration from the corrupt neo-Franco PP.hyphen said:
C70R said:
Gives me a lot of hope for the ULEZ.
Or it could be a warning that London may also have a backlash and an anti-ulez mayoral candidate may gain support? And they should introduce it more gently perhaps.It's introduced in a very limited area (the same as CCZ) initially.
Then an expansion 2.5 years later (Oct 2021) to a larger area.
C70R said:
Stupid decisions aside, there are some really positive results in that article.
"Within a month of its launch last November, Madrid Central had cut urban traffic by up to 24% and nitrogen oxide (NOx) levels by 38%. CO2 emissions also fell by 14%."
Gives me a lot of hope for the ULEZ.
Madrid is a wholly different city to London. The Madrid Central zone is 4.72km^2 (if my poor Spanish serves me right) compared to the proposed ULEZ expanded zone of roughly 120km^2. You can't extrapolate results from what is essentially Oxford Street traffic to residential areas."Within a month of its launch last November, Madrid Central had cut urban traffic by up to 24% and nitrogen oxide (NOx) levels by 38%. CO2 emissions also fell by 14%."
Gives me a lot of hope for the ULEZ.
j_4m said:
C70R said:
Stupid decisions aside, there are some really positive results in that article.
"Within a month of its launch last November, Madrid Central had cut urban traffic by up to 24% and nitrogen oxide (NOx) levels by 38%. CO2 emissions also fell by 14%."
Gives me a lot of hope for the ULEZ.
Madrid is a wholly different city to London. The Madrid Central zone is 4.72km^2 (if my poor Spanish serves me right) compared to the proposed ULEZ expanded zone of roughly 120km^2. You can't extrapolate results from what is essentially Oxford Street traffic to residential areas."Within a month of its launch last November, Madrid Central had cut urban traffic by up to 24% and nitrogen oxide (NOx) levels by 38%. CO2 emissions also fell by 14%."
Gives me a lot of hope for the ULEZ.
But their results still show me that you can reduce pollution effectively.
C70R said:
I'm not particularly rich in financial terms.
But I feel rich in other ways.
Particularly in the knowledge of how and when to use reflexive pronouns.
I'll give you that one, piss poor grammar on my part. That said, I gave up worrying about the standard of my grammar on here when I realised that most of the posters can't differentiate between the basics such as your and you're, brought and bought or it's and its! Had a great day thank you, would ask you the same, but as per usual you spent half of it on here championing the flawed ULEZ tax.But I feel rich in other ways.
Particularly in the knowledge of how and when to use reflexive pronouns.
C70R said:
That might well be right.
But their results still show me that you can reduce pollution effectively.
Their results look great. I don't know the makeup of pollution in that area. We do know the makeup of pollution in the ULEZ. If car emissions were eliminated we are talking single figure percentage drops and it will still not meet EU targets. No one has a compelling argument which shows the costs are worth even the best case gains. But their results still show me that you can reduce pollution effectively.
Graveworm said:
C70R said:
That might well be right.
But their results still show me that you can reduce pollution effectively.
Their results look great. I don't know the makeup of pollution in that area. We do know the makeup of pollution in the ULEZ. If car emissions were eliminated we are talking single figure percentage drops and it will still not meet EU targets. No one has a compelling argument which shows the costs are worth even the best case gains. But their results still show me that you can reduce pollution effectively.
C70R said:
I'm intrigued as to why London's pollution makeup and contributors should be worse than Madrid's.
The why doesn't change the what, which you haven't addressed.Its not hard it's been posted here.
Roads makeup are 36 percent of NO2 pollution
Cars are 18 percent of that.
If all cars stopped driving into London or were zero emmissions then NO2 pollution would fall by less than 7 percent. This scheme of course won't have anywhere near that impact as its only about older cars.
Is the cost worth it or would it be better spent reducing congestion or compelling people to fit more efficient heating.
Edited by Graveworm on Monday 3rd June 15:23
Graveworm said:
Cars are 18 percent of that.
If all cars stopped driving into London or were zero emmissions then NO2 pollution would fall by less than 7 percent. This scheme of course won't have anywhere near that impact as its only about older cars.
Is the cost worth it or would it be better spent reducing congestion or compelling people to fit more efficient heating.
Edited by Graveworm on Monday 3rd June 15:23
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