RE: BMW M3 CS spied

[Agent XXX]

culpz said:

Ares said:

culpz said:

Ares said:

Standard faire as soon as we talk about BMWs Haters gonna hate

As soon as you talk about BMWs, more like

Except it started way before I joined in

Yet it always seems to end with you.

Who says it's ended?

[Ares]

culpz said:

Ares said:

culpz said:

Ares said:

Standard faire as soon as we talk about BMWs Haters gonna hate

As soon as you talk about BMWs, more like

Except it started way before I joined in

Yet it always seems to end with you.

Time of the month?

[culpz]

Ares said:

culpz said:

Ares said:

culpz said:

Ares said:

Standard faire as soon as we talk about BMWs Haters gonna hate

As soon as you talk about BMWs, more like

Except it started way before I joined in

Yet it always seems to end with you.

Time of the month?

Yes, It's BMW month.

[jon-yprpe]

You can turn off the piped in sound on on the F80 via bimmerlink. Mine was much nicer place to be after that

But I sold it after 3 months, I wanted to love it like I loved my E46 many years ago. But I couldn't. It was fast and....a bit boring.

£85k for a car that will depreciate like a stone is ridiculous as well. Look at 2nd hand F80 prices, they've plummeted and big discounts were available.

Now, a 911 Carrera-t for £90k.....I fancy one of them.....

[WCZ]

the question is whether you could take a brand new M3 and make a better car than the CS by spending £34,000 on tuning etc

[Ares]

WCZ said:

the question is whether you could take a brand new M3 and make a better car than the CS by spending £34,000 on tuning etc

Of course you could. But that's not really the point.

[GTEYE]

For all those that think £85k is too much....there is a simple solution...don't buy one!!

You have to presume BMW know their market and if there are enough gullible people out there....personally I say good luck to both BMW and their customers.

For me the sweet spot in range is the Competition Pack (at a discounted price) - any more than that you're just wasting your money...

[9k rpm]

sh33n said:

Might as well chime in here as I have a F80 M3 (best make sure to park in the barry boy section at Silverstone on Sunday).

On topic...the CS looks fantastic and there is a lot of desire (from me) to have one, but I'd agree with pretty much everyone here that 85 - 90k is just too much for an M3. That said, it didn't stop them shifting the 30th Anniversary Ed at the ~same cost, so sure they'll sell plenty of these to warrant adding it to the list.

Off topic...the fake sounds, I'm fine with it, but get people's opinion. In no way does it sound like a V10 (that's absurd). It can be turned off easily with an app or pulling the plug out; so not buying a car because of this is again....absurd.

Comparing to the Alfa....I traded my M4 Vert in for the M3, I had a deposit down on the Alfa, it's so much prettier but it would have cost more (last Dec) for one, is a bit less practical and given how many issues I've seen people have had with them, I'm glad I stuck with BMW. That said, if I see one I know I'll think twice again.

Massively off topic but how do you find the M4 vert compares to the M3 from a performance perspective? Guessing slower and not as sharp but how significant is it?

I’m in the market for one or the other in the next few months and can’t really make up my mind whether to go for practicality or pose! I don’t really need the practicality as the wife has an X5 so leaning towards the M4 vert. Don’t fancy the coupe so if the performance is naff will go for the M3.

Thanks.

[Ares]

9k rpm said:

Massively off topic but how do you find the M4 vert compares to the M3 from a performance perspective? Guessing slower and not as sharp but how significant is it?

I’m in the market for one or the other in the next few months and can’t really make up my mind whether to go for practicality or pose! I don’t really need the practicality as the wife has an X5 so leaning towards the M4 vert. Don’t fancy the coupe so if the performance is naff will go for the M3.

Thanks.

M4 Vert?

[Oilchange]

Think it’s ‘David Brent’ speak for convertible...

[stiII_I_undomyseatbelts]

Finally they made a special version of M3. Out of the two saloon is much better looking.

[9k rpm]

Oilchange said:

Think it’s ‘David Brent’ speak for convertible...

[Wills2]

This place is going down hill.....

[Julian Thompson]

I prefer the M4 shape personally but both are fabulous cars. I had tentative interest in both CS models but then I found out there was no manual option which made it easy to overlook. I’m kind of pleased because reconciling the sheer price of these things vs the ordinary M cars is seriously difficult and I don’t imagine deals will be on the cards....

[stiII_I_undomyseatbelts]

Julian Thompson said:

I found out there was no manual option

The manual would have made sense in 2005. Nowadays with all the econonsense, clutch dump valves, rev hang etc making sure the emissions aren't too off the scale and castrating the manual experience autos are the only pure option left.

[Mike335i]

stiII_I_undomyseatbelts said:

The manual would have made sense in 2005. Nowadays with all the econonsense, clutch dump valves, rev hang etc making sure the emissions aren't too off the scale and castrating the manual experience autos are the only pure option left.

I still think there is a place for the manual box on performance cars. Having driven a DCT M4 last weekend I get the appeal of the flappy paddle when there is 400lbft+to contend with, but I would have liked the challenge of taming it. I'm also not a fan of the ZF8 box either, although I have only used it with diesels.

[Ares]

Mike335i said:

stiII_I_undomyseatbelts said:

The manual would have made sense in 2005. Nowadays with all the econonsense, clutch dump valves, rev hang etc making sure the emissions aren't too off the scale and castrating the manual experience autos are the only pure option left.

I still think there is a place for the manual box on performance cars. Having driven a DCT M4 last weekend I get the appeal of the flappy paddle when there is 400lbft+to contend with, but I would have liked the challenge of taming it. I'm also not a fan of the ZF8 box either, although I have only used it with diesels.

With the right set up/tuning, and a petrol engine, it's a belter. I'd not have a manual.

I've also driven Manual M4 Vs DCT M3. The DCT is so much better.

[Ares]

Oilchange said:

Think it’s ‘David Brent’ speak for convertible...

Ah....

(in lieu of a faceplam smilie....)

[culpz]

GTEYE said:

For all those that think £85k is too much....there is a simple solution...don't buy one!!

I never get these type of comments. It's quite possible to identify when something isn't particularly great VFM without having to put your money where your mouth is.

[D200]

jon-yprpe said:

You can turn off the piped in sound on on the F80 via bimmerlink. Mine was much nicer place to be after that

But I sold it after 3 months, I wanted to love it like I loved my E46 many years ago. But I couldn't. It was fast and....a bit boring.

£85k for a car that will depreciate like a stone is ridiculous as well. Look at 2nd hand F80 prices, they've plummeted and big discounts were available.

Now, a 911 Carrera-t for £90k.....I fancy one of them.....

It's an overpriced joke car too*, don't you know?

If not I refer you to the 911 T thread

• But only on pistonheads forumland - as is every car they are all crap and over priced etc

You need to buy an imaginary car that doesn't exist

I think both the M3CS and 911T sound like great cars, I'd be happy with either

I agree 100% They are over priced esp the M3, but nowadays an Elise can cost £65k and an evora 120k or something!

Sadly this is just the new normal !

Edited by D200 on Friday 27th October 18:58