One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4

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G13NVL

2,782 posts

85 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Blown2CV said:
this is fking riveting. Can the resident yorkie eaters please admit that they get pissed off when they have to brake from 56mph so they maybe sometimes on occasion do things which are questionable in order to avoid doing so?
It is annoying as if you loaded or going up hill and have to slow then it could take literally miles to get back to speed. Imagine your in your car on a long several hour journey set on cruise 70mph someone slows you down to 55mph, you then have to stay at 55 for 2 miles before can go 70mph again repeat that serveral times a day, it is annoying. But also part of the job we decided to take and as professional drivers shouldn’t need to react in any bad way. But as said there any many many awful drivers that have a gained a HGV license and are a disgrace to the all the decent ones.

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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G13NVL said:
Blown2CV said:
this is fking riveting. Can the resident yorkie eaters please admit that they get pissed off when they have to brake from 56mph so they maybe sometimes on occasion do things which are questionable in order to avoid doing so?
It is annoying as if you loaded or going up hill and have to slow then it could take literally miles to get back to speed. Imagine your in your car on a long several hour journey set on cruise 70mph someone slows you down to 55mph, you then have to stay at 55 for 2 miles before can go 70mph again repeat that serveral times a day, it is annoying. But also part of the job we decided to take and as professional drivers shouldn’t need to react in any bad way. But as said there any many many awful drivers that have a gained a HGV license and are a disgrace to the all the decent ones.
i guess the bit i don't understand is that lorries are big slow vehicles. Why do you care whether you are doing 45 or 55? Do you not get paid just the same or do you get a bonus for arriving early or something?

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Nanook said:
Blown2CV said:
i guess the bit i don't understand is that lorries are big slow vehicles. Why do you care whether you are doing 45 or 55? Do you not get paid just the same or do you get a bonus for arriving early or something?
You get to go home early. You don't miss your delivery slot and have to wait in a big queue.

Or you don't have to stop for that extra break.
guess what - we all get to go home earlier if we drive faster, but it's not always possible. If you're expecting other traffic to clear out your way because you getting home faster is more important than them getting home faster then you're going to be perpetually upset - and if you drive for a living that can't be good for your health.

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Nanook said:
Blown2CV said:
guess what - we all get to go home earlier if we drive faster, but it's not always possible. If you're expecting other traffic to clear out your way because you getting home faster is more important than them getting home faster then you're going to be perpetually upset - and if you drive for a living that can't be good for your health.
If the speed limit is 70mph on a piece of road, and my car is capable, and the conditions are good, I'm going to drive at 70mph so I can get home quicker.

Why wouldn't I?

You asked why they'd rather drive at 55 instead of 45. That's the (obvious) answer.
missing the point. If the choice is either behave safely and reduce speed or behave recklessly (and/or negatively impact lots of others) in order to maintain 56mph then surely the right thing to do is the former. Sometimes, and I know this is shocking, cars may be forced to travel at less than 70mph because of the volume of traffic - you can't always drive at the speed you want to drive at, because there are a lot of other people who have an equal right.

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Nanook said:
Blown2CV said:
missing the point. If the choice is either behave safely and reduce speed or behave recklessly (and/or negatively impact lots of others) in order to maintain 56mph then surely the right thing to do is the former. Sometimes, and I know this is shocking, cars may be forced to travel at less than 70mph because of the volume of traffic - you can't always drive at the speed you want to drive at, because there are a lot of other people who have an equal right.
IMaybe I'm missing the point? The question you asked was:

"Why do you care whether you are doing 45 or 55? Do you not get paid just the same or do you get a bonus for arriving early or something?

I answered. I'm not condoning tailgating or any sort of wreckless driving.

Clearly, if it's not possible to drive at 55mph because of traffic, they're not going to drive at 55mph. The ones that tailgate cars are just as bad as the muppets in cars that jump in front of them, into their braking gap.

I don't drive vocationally, and I'm one of those asshats with a horse in the back, so I tend to take it easy and stay out the way, the horse doesn't appreciate heavy braking, but it's fecking annoying when some muppet dives in front of you and brakes at the last minute because they want to get to a sliproad and they're too impatient to get in lane at a sensible point.
why would you car SO much about maintaining speed as to do something inadvisable or dangerous? The generally accepted thing that good drivers would do is just slow down. If you're deliberately making a ton of other drivers slow right down or take evasive action just to maintain your speed then you're a bell. Doesn't matter whether you're drive a truck or a moped.

Jim AK

4,029 posts

125 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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The Total Arsewipe in the Volvo estate complete with ‘Dogs in Transit’ stickers in the rear screen on the A1 near Weatherby where it goes from 3 lanes to 2.

Had managed to sit well behind me, I was doing an indicated 75, but just had to use the hatch lines to get in front of me thus causing me to brake hard as L1 was occupied.

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Then Mr Total Arsewipe stays in L2, struggling to maintain an indicated 65 with nothing in front of him, until turning off onto the M whatever it was..

Absolute !

Flibble

6,475 posts

182 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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People who overtake and then slow down.
Had one yesterday morning, I was in lane one and a taxi came barrelling past in lane two until just in front by a car length at most. Fine. Then he eased right off so I was gaining on him. I dropped back and moved to lane three to pass and he speeds up. rage

I'm pretty sure the requirements for becoming a taxi driver are a course on causing the maximum annoyance to other drivers without actually causing a crash.

G13NVL

2,782 posts

85 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Blown2CV said:
Nanook said:
Blown2CV said:
i guess the bit i don't understand is that lorries are big slow vehicles. Why do you care whether you are doing 45 or 55? Do you not get paid just the same or do you get a bonus for arriving early or something?
You get to go home early. You don't miss your delivery slot and have to wait in a big queue.

Or you don't have to stop for that extra break.
guess what - we all get to go home earlier if we drive faster, but it's not always possible. If you're expecting other traffic to clear out your way because you getting home faster is more important than them getting home faster then you're going to be perpetually upset - and if you drive for a living that can't be good for your health.
Yes but if the trucker is late to a drop by 10 mins he isn’t going to be 10 mins late home as hel miss his drop time and could have to wait hours untill there is a free slot. And being held 10 mins could mean he won’t make his next drop within driving time so have to stop for a 45 min break then be late for delievery slot and repeat above.
I’m not condoning any reckless driving by anyone in any vehicle but frustration can get the better of everybody just some react differently to others and it’s a lot more obvious if driving a HGV.
A lot of brain dead drivers about who hover along side a wagon then when it approaches a slower moving wagon (could be down to 40mph on a hill) just sit there instead of moving over to the empty lane 3 or getting in front which means you have to slow down pull out behind said car then your stuck at 45-50 all way up the hill past the slower truck holding a lot more traffic up.
Also people go on about trucks tailgating but when you leave a a decent gap infront say 20 car lengths you can garentee 21 cars will squeeze into it 10 yards before the junction they want.
There are thousands of truck drivers but unfortunately the few shocking ones seem to create an opinion all of us.

Edited by G13NVL on Saturday 21st July 14:31

HTP99

22,581 posts

141 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Zafira man on the A3 on the way home from work.

I'm on the entry sliproad in lane 2, he's dawdling doing about 45 and not speeding up so I undertake, he then speeds up to try and stop me, I slip onto the A3 just ahead of him and I can see in my mirror he's motoring, he catches up with me and sits on my bumper, I can't see his number plate, I'm in a ZOE which maxes out at 86, he's giving me the coffee beans, looking really angry and pointing to the left as it to say "get over, you should be in the other lane"; I'm in lane 2 doing an indicated 87 and am fast approaching a car ahead.

He then undertakes and swerves in front of me and slams his brakes on, then speeds up.

I decide to take a junction early to avoid him, it'll only add 5 minutes to my journey home but I think he's realised this as I've started to move over to lane 1, he's still ahead and slows and takes the junction just ahead of me so I change my mind, as does he and he almost slams into the side of me and with the violence of his manouvre I'm amazed that his car didn't roll or crash into a barrier especially as he's in that area that's full of stones and general road rubbish.

I accelerate away and he drops back (ZOE has instant torque, a 1.6 Zafira takes a while to get going) but then he slowly catches up as I'm maxed again at 86, I'm in lane 2 and he approaches from lane 3 and pulls alongside, and gives me that look as he passes by along with his fat council wife, then accelerates away.

He was your typical looking knuckle head Zafira driver; shaved head, fat, wife beater top, tattoos, ugly fat wife but he worst thing; there were kids in the car.

oceanview

1,511 posts

132 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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HTP99 said:
Zafira man on the A3 on the way home from work.

I'm on the entry sliproad in lane 2, he's dawdling doing about 45 and not speeding up so I undertake, he then speeds up to try and stop me, I slip onto the A3 just ahead of him and I can see in my mirror he's motoring, he catches up with me and sits on my bumper, I can't see his number plate, I'm in a ZOE which maxes out at 86, he's giving me the coffee beans, looking really angry and pointing to the left as it to say "get over, you should be in the other lane"; I'm in lane 2 doing an indicated 87 and am fast approaching a car ahead.

He then undertakes and swerves in front of me and slams his brakes on, then speeds up.

I decide to take a junction early to avoid him, it'll only add 5 minutes to my journey home but I think he's realised this as I've started to move over to lane 1, he's still ahead and slows and takes the junction just ahead of me so I change my mind, as does he and he almost slams into the side of me and with the violence of his manouvre I'm amazed that his car didn't roll or crash into a barrier especially as he's in that area that's full of stones and general road rubbish.

I accelerate away and he drops back (ZOE has instant torque, a 1.6 Zafira takes a while to get going) but then he slowly catches up as I'm maxed again at 86, I'm in lane 2 and he approaches from lane 3 and pulls alongside, and gives me that look as he passes by along with his fat council wife, then accelerates away.

He was your typical looking knuckle head Zafira driver; shaved head, fat, wife beater top, tattoos, ugly fat wife but he worst thing; there were kids in the car.
Take comfort from the fact that his whole life is st- and probably always will be- and he's a heart attack or stroke waiting to happen, by the time he's 60!

shost

825 posts

144 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Zafira man must have jumped into his work van. Just did a text book NSL single carriageway multi car overtake. Mid manouver after about four cars, I slot in behind a small van. Speed matched, indicated, into safe gap. Bare fat arm reaches out of van to give me a clear coffee beans. Ok. Next straight, pass him cleanly (giving him unfriendly toot, lift and death stare before easily passing remaining few vehicles). I disappear smartly into distance. Just as a tractor and trailer pulls into gap behind me.

Guess I'll make it in such good time to work I will have plenty of time to rub one out. Thanks for the suggestion van slob. Enjoy being stuck behind queue of vehicles trundling along at 35mph.... hahaha

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Master Bean

3,583 posts

121 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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It's a Zafira. You wouldn't expect anything less. Worst driven cars on the road.

Pica-Pica

13,825 posts

85 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Jonno02 said:
SantaBarbara said:
People who over rely on Google searches to give the correct answer.
I work with a very computer literate guy that ALWAYS asks questions. When you say to him "Have you googled it?" The answer is always no. Then, he immediately finds the answer on google.
Other search engines are available.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

184 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Taglioni said:
Knob = anyone who says he bought something on eBay after a few beers, what have I done etc

Attention seeking at its best
Hoi!

I'll have you know I bought a really rather nice Lancia Beta after a marathon session. biggrin

Yeah, okay. I get your point. hehe

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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A few days ago I vented my spleen on this thread about the self appointed road captains on the A505 at Royston, where it is coned down to one lane due to roadworks.

They have now put up signs (which are quite large) which say "Please use both lanes while queuing". Still people sit obstinately in the inside lane, several hundred yards from the merge point, staring daggers at people who use the outside lane and then merge at the, um, merge point.

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

123 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Alex_225 said:
Reminds me of those people who seem to refuse to overtake a police car on the motorway. Despite the fact that it's doing 55-60mph and the speed limit is 70! Common sense dictates that they know they're under the limit and people will go past.
I used to work closely with an arm of the police, and often travelled in batternberg'd up patrol cars. He told me that if did 70 he would become a rolling roadblock as nobody would overtake at their normal speeds. Whereas sitting at 60 encouraged people to overtake a 70, keeping the traffic flowing better.

ben5575

6,293 posts

222 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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People who set their cruise control and sit in the clear outside lane completely oblivious to what is unfolding on the road in front of them.

For example; creeping up on you to the point where, after 10 seconds, the nose of their car is still only halfway alongside your car. You meanwhile are in the inside lane, catching up to a slower moving car in your lane, leaving you with no choice but to either drop 20 mph so the knob can complete his The Last Jedi overtake, or speed up and undertake him. If you're going to overtake, overtake, don't feckin dawdle!

Oh and before anybody does, pedantic Knobs who give a fk about correcting people's colloquial naming of lanes with the correct numbering system wavey

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Flibble said:
People who overtake and then slow down.
Had one yesterday morning, I was in lane one and a taxi came barrelling past in lane two until just in front by a car length at most. Fine. Then he eased right off so I was gaining on him. I dropped back and moved to lane three to pass and he speeds up. rage

I'm pretty sure the requirements for becoming a taxi driver are a course on causing the maximum annoyance to other drivers without actually causing a crash.
I'm pretty sure that's what Ben5575 does without knowing. His post sounds almost exactly like the other side of this story...

You're on cruise, you're catching someone at a reasonable pace, you pull out, they speed up, you then end up creeping past them. Or you speed up, (as requested by Ben), but they also speed up. So then when you do get past them, you have to slow down. At which point they over take, and then slow down themselves. Now you're all reset, and ready for round 2 of "guess what speed the in lane 2 will be doing next".

MKnight702

3,110 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Master Bean said:
It's a Zafira. You wouldn't expect anything less. Worst driven cars on the road.
I have come to the conclusion that the Zafailure is purchased by someone who has failed at life and wants to take it out on everyone else.

ben5575

6,293 posts

222 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Munter said:
Flibble said:
People who overtake and then slow down.
Had one yesterday morning, I was in lane one and a taxi came barrelling past in lane two until just in front by a car length at most. Fine. Then he eased right off so I was gaining on him. I dropped back and moved to lane three to pass and he speeds up. rage

I'm pretty sure the requirements for becoming a taxi driver are a course on causing the maximum annoyance to other drivers without actually causing a crash.
I'm pretty sure that's what Ben5575 does without knowing. His post sounds almost exactly like the other side of this story...

You're on cruise, you're catching someone at a reasonable pace, you pull out, they speed up, you then end up creeping past them. Or you speed up, (as requested by Ben), but they also speed up. So then when you do get past them, you have to slow down. At which point they over take, and then slow down themselves. Now you're all reset, and ready for round 2 of "guess what speed the in lane 2 will be doing next".
Sort of. There's three people involved on a dual carriageway for ease of explanation. Car 1 minding their own business in inside lane. Car 2 minding my own business in the same lane but closing on Car 1. Car 3 in outside lane going 2mph faster than me. Car 3 stays in outside lane and continues to crawl up to then along side me in Car 2. Meanwhile me in Car 2 is about to get boxed in unless I brake to let him crawl past me before rear ending Car 1 or accelerate to undertake Car 3 to overtake Car 1.

Normally this situation doesn't occur because people are paying attention/anticipating the road ahead or there is more than a 2mph speed differential. Car 3 in outside lane can see and anticipates Car 2 is approaching and soon to overtake a slower Car 1 in the inside lane. Car 3 judges whether to go past Car 2 with minimum inconvenience to them (i.e. not forcing them to brake) by speeding up or slows down to allow Car 2 pull out to overtake Car 1. Likewise Car 2 can use their mirrors and judge the space available. Generally no knobbing involved.

I've got no problem with Car 3 making progress and me in car 2 having to anticipate/slow/brake and let him by so as not to impede him; I'm often Car 3 myself. It's the dawdling 'I've set my cruise control and I ain't touching it and to hell with the anticipation/driving bit whilst I sit either on your bumper or alongside you' mentality that singles out the Knob.
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