One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4
Discussion
silverfoxcc said:
Things have changed since i past the test, but my Di said his rule of thumb when wanting to change lanes was let the indicator flash once for every 10mph you are doing.BEFORE starting the change
his reasoning was at the higher speeds you get that bit more time to double check mirrors ,plus anyone coming up is made aware you MIGHT move out
That's a useful tip. his reasoning was at the higher speeds you get that bit more time to double check mirrors ,plus anyone coming up is made aware you MIGHT move out
silverfoxcc said:
However the buggers that really increase the temp of my urine are,in no particular order
dont indicate and move (Did they check before moving???)
Indicate once and move on the second flash
Move then frigging indicate
Me +1dont indicate and move (Did they check before moving???)
Indicate once and move on the second flash
Move then frigging indicate
Generally I finish indicating before even moving lanes. The last flash corresponds to the lane change commencing. I'll leave it on during the lane change if it's particularly busy and I want to draw more attention to the maneuover. Those who already have two wheels across the lines and only then give a couple of flashes are a waste of space
romeogolf said:
nonsequitur said:
Changing lanes with no indication? No yellow, the road may appear to have ' engineered space' , but not to indicate? Sorry, but slack driving.
Signals are for the benefit of other road users. If there is no road user who will benefit from the signal, the signal is not required.
I do so out of habit even if the road appears to be completely empty.
Anyway yesterday evening there was some rain. Depending on where you were in the UK the amount varied from a mild short shower to a torrent with visibility reduced to less than ten meters (as I drove to work).
Yet there were still idiots on the road with no lights on.
romeogolf said:
Signals are for the benefit of other road users. If there is no road user who will benefit from the signal, the signal is not required.
But that depends on you knowing where all other road users are at all times.It is possible for you (or your vehicle) to be visible to another road user, despite the fact that they may not be visible to you.
InitialDave said:
People who think their observations are good enough to never miss spotting someone frighten me a bit.
With the plural - ‘observations’ you make more than one look for each major manoeuvre. If you are constantly checking as you go along, then a final glance is fine. As you drive and constantly observe, you always know what is surrounding you, and always have a pre-planned escape route if someone else makes an unexpected move (sorry if this constant observation, and having a plan ‘frightens’ you).Moonhawk said:
romeogolf said:
Signals are for the benefit of other road users. If there is no road user who will benefit from the signal, the signal is not required.
But that depends on you knowing where all other road users are at all times.It is possible for you (or your vehicle) to be visible to another road user, despite the fact that they may not be visible to you.
At the risk of tarring everyone with the same brush, the drivers heading to and from JLR on the A45 and the junction at the Holiday Inn.
Using the right hand lane to beat the queue when you know fine well you'll be braking sharply and diving left as late as possible.
Going the wrong way down a one way street to beat the queue.
Doing illegal U-turns at the lights to beat the queues.
Using all manner of filter lanes incorrectly to avoid the queue.
Blatantly running red lights.
And general knobbery like tailgating, right lane hogging, and Fiesta ST racing as it seems that's all everyone drives there.
Tits. But then it is Birmingham so what should I expect.
Using the right hand lane to beat the queue when you know fine well you'll be braking sharply and diving left as late as possible.
Going the wrong way down a one way street to beat the queue.
Doing illegal U-turns at the lights to beat the queues.
Using all manner of filter lanes incorrectly to avoid the queue.
Blatantly running red lights.
And general knobbery like tailgating, right lane hogging, and Fiesta ST racing as it seems that's all everyone drives there.
Tits. But then it is Birmingham so what should I expect.
Three, last night. I was having a quick run from my house up the motorway and back, no more than 8 miles total, and in that time I had:
1. Bloke sat in the outside lane at 65. No other traffic ahead in L1-2. Ended up having to overtake on the left. Still there as a I lost sight of him.
2. Muppet on the way back down the motorway with no lights on (it was about 10pm). They eventually realised after the third flash and turned them on.
3. Heading up the slip road to exit the motorway to find a young lad indicating and turning down the slip as I got to the end. Took him while to realise why people were giving him grief, then he reversed and carried on.
Must have been something in the water that night!
1. Bloke sat in the outside lane at 65. No other traffic ahead in L1-2. Ended up having to overtake on the left. Still there as a I lost sight of him.
2. Muppet on the way back down the motorway with no lights on (it was about 10pm). They eventually realised after the third flash and turned them on.
3. Heading up the slip road to exit the motorway to find a young lad indicating and turning down the slip as I got to the end. Took him while to realise why people were giving him grief, then he reversed and carried on.
Must have been something in the water that night!
Muddle238 said:
Generally I finish indicating before even moving lanes. The last flash corresponds to the lane change commencing. I'll leave it on during the lane change if it's particularly busy and I want to draw more attention to the maneuover. Those who already have two wheels across the lines and only then give a couple of flashes are a waste of space
Just to clarifyyou are indicating
you stop indicating ( last flash?)
Then move?????????
If i were coming up behind you, I MIGHT take it that you are an observant driver, who has seen me coming up and aborted the lane change.
However as i am the only intelligent driver on the road ( another DI maxim) and you and all the others are incompetent fools, i will hold back to see what you are actually going to do, instead of being on your o/s rear quarter and then finding you in front of me!!
Not taking the piss, but just pointing out a flaw
HOW do I KNOW when your last flash will be, and is Your last flash the same as the next guys???????
It looks like in your world to opposite occurs Far better to cancel the indictor once you are in the other lane THEN i know you have completed to move
a signal is a notice to others of your INTENTION to move, the signal being cancelled means no intention
The simple way of looking at this is
I am coming up a slip road onto a motorway or DC
I do not indicate on joining
WHY?
Because by coming up the slip i have already given other drivers notice of my intention to join the main carriageway.otherwise i wouldnt be on the skip road in the first place.
Edited by silverfoxcc on Sunday 29th July 09:19
Edited by silverfoxcc on Sunday 29th July 09:25
Two different incidents with two different women drivers, first as I exit my close the road i turn left onto has no white line down the centre so I usually find the idiots coming from the left in the middle of the road but this morning's effort was completely on my side of the road as I pulled out forcing me to slam my brakes on, the person following me to do the same and the dozy bint driving at me to swerve around me all while she looked panicked!!! Second one coming around a round about over the M27 I'm in the left hand lane and the woman level with my front wing just indicates and pulls across cutting me off, pretty sure she didn't even look in her mirror!!!!!
I carry on indicating until I finish the entire manoeuvre, at which point I stop.
I always have. I guess I like people to know I haven’t changed my mind.
I have never been beeped doing what I do, not matter how rapid my progress, compared to the vehicles around me.
I guess my philosophy is not to surprise other people.
I always have. I guess I like people to know I haven’t changed my mind.
I have never been beeped doing what I do, not matter how rapid my progress, compared to the vehicles around me.
I guess my philosophy is not to surprise other people.
Bobberoo99 said:
Two different incidents with two different women drivers, first as I exit my close the road i turn left onto has no white line down the centre so I usually find the idiots coming from the left in the middle of the road but this morning's effort was completely on my side of the road as I pulled out forcing me to slam my brakes on, the person following me to do the same and the dozy bint driving at me to swerve around me all while she looked panicked!!!
You shouldn't pull out until you have checked your side of the road is clear. Sounds like you made an assumption it was.At the end of the road where I work there are a set of traffic lights at the "T" junction. I was turning left and indicating as such while it was red. To my right a Fire Engine was approaching. The light changed to green but I waited for the Fire Engine, much to the dismay of the resale black BMW behind me who was not indicating. He decided to try and get past me as the Fire Engine was then indicating to turn into the road we were on.
I pipped my horn and waved to the driver of the Fire Engine who only just managed to stop before hitting the BMW head on. The BMW then had to reverse back behind me and the driver decided I was a w
ker for giving way to an Emergency Service vehicle.
I drove off normally as the light was still green and the BMW wheel sped off to the right as it changed to amber.
If someone does not pull out of a junction the nanosecond the lights change instead of trying to barge by take a moment and think...
"Why hasn't that person moved yet?"
...before making a complete tool of yourself.
I pipped my horn and waved to the driver of the Fire Engine who only just managed to stop before hitting the BMW head on. The BMW then had to reverse back behind me and the driver decided I was a w
ker for giving way to an Emergency Service vehicle. I drove off normally as the light was still green and the BMW wheel sped off to the right as it changed to amber.
If someone does not pull out of a junction the nanosecond the lights change instead of trying to barge by take a moment and think...
"Why hasn't that person moved yet?"
...before making a complete tool of yourself.
Monkeylegend said:
Bobberoo99 said:
Two different incidents with two different women drivers, first as I exit my close the road i turn left onto has no white line down the centre so I usually find the idiots coming from the left in the middle of the road but this morning's effort was completely on my side of the road as I pulled out forcing me to slam my brakes on, the person following me to do the same and the dozy bint driving at me to swerve around me all while she looked panicked!!!
You shouldn't pull out until you have checked your side of the road is clear. Sounds like you made an assumption it was.Bobberoo99 said:
Monkeylegend said:
Bobberoo99 said:
Two different incidents with two different women drivers, first as I exit my close the road i turn left onto has no white line down the centre so I usually find the idiots coming from the left in the middle of the road but this morning's effort was completely on my side of the road as I pulled out forcing me to slam my brakes on, the person following me to do the same and the dozy bint driving at me to swerve around me all while she looked panicked!!!
You shouldn't pull out until you have checked your side of the road is clear. Sounds like you made an assumption it was.
And if the offer still stands, all of the above, at my age you are grateful for anything you can get. You are very perceptive I must say
Bobberoo99 said:
Monkeylegend said:
Bobberoo99 said:
Two different incidents with two different women drivers, first as I exit my close the road i turn left onto has no white line down the centre so I usually find the idiots coming from the left in the middle of the road but this morning's effort was completely on my side of the road as I pulled out forcing me to slam my brakes on, the person following me to do the same and the dozy bint driving at me to swerve around me all while she looked panicked!!!
You shouldn't pull out until you have checked your side of the road is clear. Sounds like you made an assumption it was.
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