One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4
Discussion
Pica-Pica said:
I see no reason to indicate to get back in on a dual carriageway - moving back in to left lane should be normal, and as the car is accelerating past you, you are not impeded by that car not signalling. Of a vehicle was following that car, then, yes signal to pull back in.
Did any of the non-indications inconvenience, confuse, or scare you?
There isn't a need to unless they are a bit close due to underestimating variances and the vehicle having been overtaken needs to slow to open the gap to a safe distance or allow them into the left lane. Easily done and we all make mistakes. Anything more than two lanes (motorways etc) you should always indicate when you change lanes left or right. Did any of the non-indications inconvenience, confuse, or scare you?
As for inconvenience or grievance; not in the slightest. I made more of a note due to the topic being brought up before and that section of the A52 being one of the most feckless stretches of road in the UK.
On reflection I went south along the A1(M) from the A52 (near Grantham) to the A151 turn off headed east and there were a few who failed indicate as they initiated the overtake but the road was a lot busier and I covered less distance so didn't take note as much.
Liquid Knight said:
Yes, indicating to overtake. Once the maneuver is complete they should be a safe distance ahead to slot left without needing to indicate.
Standards of driving have slipped. You're making a lane change (crossing the white line), there is a need to indicate. This means both times you changed lanes.
Indicating should be subconscious. If you're thinking about it you're doing something horribly wrong. It doesn't matter if I think anyone else is about (because a 0.5 second look in a mirror gives me absolute visibility), I indicate because I know when I need to indicate, it's automatic for me.
Consider this. You overtake a car in lane 3, switch back to lane 2 without indicating. Meanwhile the car in lane 1 decides to move into Lane 2 at the same moment. When knobs who believe "indicating is optional" collide.
captain_cynic said:
Liquid Knight said:
Yes, indicating to overtake. Once the maneuver is complete they should be a safe distance ahead to slot left without needing to indicate.
Standards of driving have slipped. You're making a lane change (crossing the white line), there is a need to indicate. This means both times you changed lanes.
Indicating should be subconscious. If you're thinking about it you're doing something horribly wrong. It doesn't matter if I think anyone else is about (because a 0.5 second look in a mirror gives me absolute visibility), I indicate because I know when I need to indicate, it's automatic for me.
Consider this. You overtake a car in lane 3, switch back to lane 2 without indicating. Meanwhile the car in lane 1 decides to move into Lane 2 at the same moment. When knobs who believe "indicating is optional" collide.
Blown2CV said:
mikal83 said:
I was on the A52 from Derby to Nottingham yesterday when I caught up to a car pulling a trailer. No one behind me so I just pulled out and overtook then slowly got back into the LEFT lane. Saw in my mirror some red faced loser waving his arms at me. WTF.
so you're saying you did a totally safe and totally standard overtake on a two lane carriageway, and got called a w
ker? I think someone isn't tell us quite the full story there. 
Monkeylegend said:
Blown2CV said:
mikal83 said:
I was on the A52 from Derby to Nottingham yesterday when I caught up to a car pulling a trailer. No one behind me so I just pulled out and overtook then slowly got back into the LEFT lane. Saw in my mirror some red faced loser waving his arms at me. WTF.
so you're saying you did a totally safe and totally standard overtake on a two lane carriageway, and got called a wker? I think someone isn't tell us quite the full story there. Blown2CV said:
Monkeylegend said:
Blown2CV said:
mikal83 said:
I was on the A52 from Derby to Nottingham yesterday when I caught up to a car pulling a trailer. No one behind me so I just pulled out and overtook then slowly got back into the LEFT lane. Saw in my mirror some red faced loser waving his arms at me. WTF.
so you're saying you did a totally safe and totally standard overtake on a two lane carriageway, and got called a wker? I think someone isn't tell us quite the full story there. 
Monkeylegend said:
Blown2CV said:
mikal83 said:
I was on the A52 from Derby to Nottingham yesterday when I caught up to a car pulling a trailer. No one behind me so I just pulled out and overtook then slowly got back into the LEFT lane. Saw in my mirror some red faced loser waving his arms at me. WTF.
so you're saying you did a totally safe and totally standard overtake on a two lane carriageway, and got called a wker? I think someone isn't tell us quite the full story there. 
I was taking the piss
mikal83 said:
Monkeylegend said:
Blown2CV said:
mikal83 said:
I was on the A52 from Derby to Nottingham yesterday when I caught up to a car pulling a trailer. No one behind me so I just pulled out and overtook then slowly got back into the LEFT lane. Saw in my mirror some red faced loser waving his arms at me. WTF.
so you're saying you did a totally safe and totally standard overtake on a two lane carriageway, and got called a wker? I think someone isn't tell us quite the full story there. I was taking the piss
Whoooooooooooooooooooooosh.
captain_cynic said:
Liquid Knight said:
Yes, indicating to overtake. Once the maneuver is complete they should be a safe distance ahead to slot left without needing to indicate.
You're making a lane change (crossing the white line), there is a need to indicate. This means both times you changed lanes..
Changing lanes requires indication, whether it be between the defined (separate) lanes of a major road, or as you exit/enter that road via a slip road. Its all the same.
You should therefore indicate when moving back into your original lane after overtaking, although only about half of motorist actually bother.
mikal83 said:
captain_cynic said:
Liquid Knight said:
Yes, indicating to overtake. Once the maneuver is complete they should be a safe distance ahead to slot left without needing to indicate.
Standards of driving have slipped. You're making a lane change (crossing the white line), there is a need to indicate. This means both times you changed lanes.
Indicating should be subconscious. If you're thinking about it you're doing something horribly wrong. It doesn't matter if I think anyone else is about (because a 0.5 second look in a mirror gives me absolute visibility), I indicate because I know when I need to indicate, it's automatic for me.
Consider this. You overtake a car in lane 3, switch back to lane 2 without indicating. Meanwhile the car in lane 1 decides to move into Lane 2 at the same moment. When knobs who believe "indicating is optional" collide.
Car A comes across MLM in lane 2 and via the clear lane 3.
As Car A decides to pull back into lane 2, Car Knob decides to pull into the same part of lane 2 at the same time!
If neither of them indicate AND look to see it is safe before actually turning the wheel, they only have themselves to blame.
Its where Indicating your intention in advance can avoid a lot of potential accidents.
youre moving along the motorway in lane 2 with another car ahead slightly same lane.........lane 1 is busy.
ahead in lane 2 you have a slower vehicle. you indicate and move to lane 3 to maintain the same speed.......you can see the car that was in front in lane 2 is getting closer to the slower vehicle and time for them is running out if they want to nip in front of you..................they keep going and going up close to the slower vehicle and now youre only metres away from their rear drivers side when the front of their car rises up as theyve dropped a gear and their powering off "on a wave of diesel torque" no doubt, cutting in front of you.......they had plenty of time earlier to move out but no they had to wait until you was right on top of them......
why people do this I do not know. worse then is after overtaking the slower vehicle they stay in lane 3 (this comes back to lane hoggers) when there is nothing else in lane 1 or 2 - almost like saying "i've pulled out on you but now youre not getting past me". The overtaking thin air syndrome.
ahead in lane 2 you have a slower vehicle. you indicate and move to lane 3 to maintain the same speed.......you can see the car that was in front in lane 2 is getting closer to the slower vehicle and time for them is running out if they want to nip in front of you..................they keep going and going up close to the slower vehicle and now youre only metres away from their rear drivers side when the front of their car rises up as theyve dropped a gear and their powering off "on a wave of diesel torque" no doubt, cutting in front of you.......they had plenty of time earlier to move out but no they had to wait until you was right on top of them......
why people do this I do not know. worse then is after overtaking the slower vehicle they stay in lane 3 (this comes back to lane hoggers) when there is nothing else in lane 1 or 2 - almost like saying "i've pulled out on you but now youre not getting past me". The overtaking thin air syndrome.
Knobs. Everywhere.
When I started driving, if I had to stop in traffic, I would engaged the handbrake, select neutral and wait. I don't do this any more. What happened was people approaching from behind assumed I was parked. It didn't matter how far I was from the kerb, no brake lights meant I was parked. Yesterday, waiting three or four feet out from the kerb, with my brake lights on, a car appeared in my mirrors a hundred yards maybe more back and went sailing past. "The silly old fool has stopped for no reason, I must get past." Or perhaps no thought at all. Obstacle in road, overtake. The temporary lights I had stopped at were insufficient clue. And so were the roadworks. And the men in hi-viz. And the machinery.
Having realised at last what was occurring and braked hard, what did Einstein decide to do? He reversed out of the roadworks to stop in front of me adjacent to the lights. In the middle if the road, obstructing oncoming traffic. There was only me there, he could have reversed past me but no. And as so often happens in these events, there was no oncoming traffic traffic, the lights changed and off he went. Fortune favours the knobs.
When I started driving, if I had to stop in traffic, I would engaged the handbrake, select neutral and wait. I don't do this any more. What happened was people approaching from behind assumed I was parked. It didn't matter how far I was from the kerb, no brake lights meant I was parked. Yesterday, waiting three or four feet out from the kerb, with my brake lights on, a car appeared in my mirrors a hundred yards maybe more back and went sailing past. "The silly old fool has stopped for no reason, I must get past." Or perhaps no thought at all. Obstacle in road, overtake. The temporary lights I had stopped at were insufficient clue. And so were the roadworks. And the men in hi-viz. And the machinery.
Having realised at last what was occurring and braked hard, what did Einstein decide to do? He reversed out of the roadworks to stop in front of me adjacent to the lights. In the middle if the road, obstructing oncoming traffic. There was only me there, he could have reversed past me but no. And as so often happens in these events, there was no oncoming traffic traffic, the lights changed and off he went. Fortune favours the knobs.
A friend of my wifes partners ex (I know, but keep up) asked him for some money towards their sons kit he needs to buy, as he is joining the Army. He refused saying he didn't have any money (bulls**t for a start) and he doesn't get on with him anyway. There are some things that are beyond being awkward and making your child slightly more comfortable and safe while he is willing to fight for your country is one of them.
Dipst in an old silver Audi A4 estate this morning, with a private plate....
Following me no problem at all, keeping a good distance behind, no tailgating, perfectly fine and happy, until I overtake the van in front of me who is doing 30 in a 60 limit, the van turns off a mile later, Audiot then decides that my overtake of said van was some sort of willy waving contest and suddenly he wants a race, he catches up and tailgates me for the next 10 miles, finally sealing his little "victory" when we get to a dual-track and he speeds off into the distance to tailgate somebody else. All that only to eventually end up on the same business estate as me, stuck waiting for a HGV to move.
t in an old silver Audi A4 estate this morning, with a private plate....Following me no problem at all, keeping a good distance behind, no tailgating, perfectly fine and happy, until I overtake the van in front of me who is doing 30 in a 60 limit, the van turns off a mile later, Audiot then decides that my overtake of said van was some sort of willy waving contest and suddenly he wants a race, he catches up and tailgates me for the next 10 miles, finally sealing his little "victory" when we get to a dual-track and he speeds off into the distance to tailgate somebody else. All that only to eventually end up on the same business estate as me, stuck waiting for a HGV to move.
Grahamdub said:
A friend of my wifes partners ex (I know, but keep up) asked him for some money towards their sons kit he needs to buy, as he is joining the Army. He refused saying he didn't have any money (bulls**t for a start) and he doesn't get on with him anyway. There are some things that are beyond being awkward and making your child slightly more comfortable and safe while he is willing to fight for your country is one of them.
Buying kit to join the army? There shouldn't be that much he needs to buy that he hasn't already got. Gone are the days of being issued a tin hat, DMS boots, a '58 pattern dossbag and a large pack, then promptly going out and emptying your wallet into Mr Berghaus' pockets. Issued kit is pretty good these days. And you'll find that in basic (phase 1) training, the recruits will probably be required to use only issued kit anyway. Only exceptions being underwear and wash kit, really.Not disputing that this so-and-so is a knob for not wanting to assist his son, though. I'd give my kids the food off my plate, and the shirt off my back, if they needed it...
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