One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4
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nonsequitur said:
Ares said:
nonsequitur said:
Ares said:
Last few days, thanks to a dusting of snow, they've become the 20mph everywhere brigade...! Then get followed by a dozen sheep-like drivers, driving so close as to not allow anyone to overtake car by car.
In the current weather conditions that makes perfect sense. This morning I was overtaken in snow and ice conditions by the usual over confident four wheel drive vehicles who think they are immune from black ice and other treacherous driving hazards.
No one can be 100% sure that they will be able to complete a drive safely no matter how they drive, therefore society decides on what might be regarded as the best compromise between speed and safety. Driving below those limits just seems to be bloody mindedness on the part of those who think they have the right to obstruct others going about their lawful business when and driving at the posted limits when and where conditions allow. To use the old phrase, if a person cannot stand the heat, they should get out of the kitchen, seems to apply
captain_cynic said:
nonsequitur said:
Tyre Tread said:
You can never be 100% sure of anything do if that's your criteria for travelling at any given speed you may as well stay home.
What does S(dab) mean?
To be clearer: 100% sure when there is ice and snow, or the aftermath of same.What does S(dab) mean?
lets all SLOW (down a bit). That is in general, not just poor driving conditions.
What makes me think "knob" are road users going 10-20 mph without a good reason like snow or ice.
What we need in the UK are fines for obstructing traffic. If you're going slow and there are a line of cars behind you without a legitimate reason, you should be fined for obstruction unless you allow the traffic to pass..
Europa1 said:
Shouldn't it be Sd(ab)?
Please don't legitimise it. It's a poor attempt at getting across a message that few would subscribe to. It amounts to anyone who drives faster than me is a lunatic and anyone who drives slower is obstructing me
Please can we go back to a time when everyone considered other road users and we all tried to allow those who want to make progress to do so.
captain_cynic said:
What we need in the UK are fines for obstructing traffic. If you're going slow and there are a line of cars behind you without a legitimate reason, you should be fined for obstruction unless you allow the traffic to pass..
This is an absolutely excellent idea!Can we start on the slowest vehicles first please? Like all of those parked at the side of the road which cause moving vehicles to have to stop to allow oncoming traffic to pass?
Fines are not the thing though. Plenty of drivers accept fines as routine in places where parking is more expensive than fines. The wealthy would shrug them off and continue to hold traffic up by parking on roads. So seizure and forfeiture of any vehicle that's obstructing traffic ought to be the first order of business.
Only when we've cleared the roads (and more importantly all our verges and footways) of inconsiderately dumped vehicles should we consider moving on to deal with those driving just a tad more slowly than a bunch of self-absorbed cretins deem appropriate.
But yes. In principal, I'm all for it...
Or? Perhaps this sort of "new law" would be exactly the kind of "draconian persecution of innocent motorists" that most posters on PH would normally rally against?
PistonHeads. Hypocrisy Matters!
Tired said:
Where do you live, where parking costs more than not buying a ticket and just paying the fine?!
Depends if you get caught every time. The car park I use for work costs £25 a day. You'd only need to get away with a couple of days parking somewhere to cover the cost of a fine.Europa1 said:
nonsequitur said:
Tyre Tread said:
You can never be 100% sure of anything do if that's your criteria for travelling at any given speed you may as well stay home.
What does S(dab) mean?
To be clearer: 100% sure when there is ice and snow, or the aftermath of same.What does S(dab) mean?
lets all SLOW (down a bit). That is in general, not just poor driving conditions.
nonsequitur said:
Ares said:
nonsequitur said:
Ares said:
Last few days, thanks to a dusting of snow, they've become the 20mph everywhere brigade...! Then get followed by a dozen sheep-like drivers, driving so close as to not allow anyone to overtake car by car.
In the current weather conditions that makes perfect sense. This morning I was overtaken in snow and ice conditions by the usual over confident four wheel drive vehicles who think they are immune from black ice and other treacherous driving hazards.nonsequitur said:
Tyre Tread said:
You can never be 100% sure of anything do if that's your criteria for travelling at any given speed you may as well stay home.
What does S(dab) mean?
To be clearer: 100% sure when there is ice and snow, or the aftermath of same.What does S(dab) mean?
lets all SLOW (down a bit). That is in general, not just poor driving conditions.
And doing 20 in a 60 is not SLOW (down a bit).
So here we go. I went to Ramsgate yesterday and could mention a hundred or so knobs including myself but here are the top five.
1/ Smart car in a traffic jam on the M2 thanks to a Vauxhall Zafira fire (must have been a Wednesday). While most of us tuned out engines off and chilled out she sat there with her foot on the brake pedal revving the engine for twenty minutes.
She had her front fog (moron warning) lights on when I overtook her later so it adds to my theory about those too thick to know how to operate a handbrake.
2/ The silver Vauhall Morono van that had ran out of diesel and come to a complete stop in the middle lane of the M2 where the M25 joins it!
If you don't make sure you have enough fuel before entering the motorway network you should not be on the road at all.
3/ The M11 was closed so traffic diverted into Cambridge but because 80% of the population of Cambridge are
twunting and it's the Kamikaze PoB capital of the world. Some of the diversion signs had been moved so they pointed to dead end streets, some removed completely and no doubt gracing the walls of a student bedsit as you're reading this, the actual road signs in Cambridge are completely useless unless you need directions to something in the city centre, not one sign tells you the way out of the hole as you're driving around in circles (literally as the one way system means you can not take a single road you need) (one junction I went to four times I needed to go straight on but the only options were left or right so I ended up going an extra twelve miles to get to the end of the road I could see from the junction)...
...and so on I stopped that rant there as I am aware of the limitations of server space.
4/ The convoy of idiots I had to do an emergency stop to avoid on the A14/A10 roundabout on the outskirts of Cambridge because they were all in the wrong lane. (at that point if I had access to a nuclear weapon Cambridge would be no more.
5/ The idiot in the silver Corsa on the M25 who though his LED sidelights were sufficient at half eight in the evening.
1/ Smart car in a traffic jam on the M2 thanks to a Vauxhall Zafira fire (must have been a Wednesday). While most of us tuned out engines off and chilled out she sat there with her foot on the brake pedal revving the engine for twenty minutes.
She had her front fog (moron warning) lights on when I overtook her later so it adds to my theory about those too thick to know how to operate a handbrake.
2/ The silver Vauhall Morono van that had ran out of diesel and come to a complete stop in the middle lane of the M2 where the M25 joins it!
If you don't make sure you have enough fuel before entering the motorway network you should not be on the road at all.
3/ The M11 was closed so traffic diverted into Cambridge but because 80% of the population of Cambridge are
twunting and it's the Kamikaze PoB capital of the world. Some of the diversion signs had been moved so they pointed to dead end streets, some removed completely and no doubt gracing the walls of a student bedsit as you're reading this, the actual road signs in Cambridge are completely useless unless you need directions to something in the city centre, not one sign tells you the way out of the hole as you're driving around in circles (literally as the one way system means you can not take a single road you need) (one junction I went to four times I needed to go straight on but the only options were left or right so I ended up going an extra twelve miles to get to the end of the road I could see from the junction)......and so on I stopped that rant there as I am aware of the limitations of server space.
4/ The convoy of idiots I had to do an emergency stop to avoid on the A14/A10 roundabout on the outskirts of Cambridge because they were all in the wrong lane. (at that point if I had access to a nuclear weapon Cambridge would be no more.
5/ The idiot in the silver Corsa on the M25 who though his LED sidelights were sufficient at half eight in the evening.
PoB Pedestrian on Bike.
The Volvo driver who joined a roundabout to take the M1 southbound slip at J13 from the old A421.
Would've been fine if I hadn't been on the roundabout already and heading down the same slip - it'd have been a big risk if he was going straight over but as he was taking the same lane as me I had to anchor on.
I remained calm.
We both joined the M1 in the roadworks and the opportunity arose to join the middle lane almost immediately.
Mr Volvo driver also took that opportunity, but he did it without indicating or looking, otherwise he'd have seen that I was in the process of passing him.
My wife informs me he stared resoutely ahead as we went past. If he'd just put a hand up to acknowledge his two dangerous errors I wouldn't be labelling him a knob.
Would've been fine if I hadn't been on the roundabout already and heading down the same slip - it'd have been a big risk if he was going straight over but as he was taking the same lane as me I had to anchor on.
I remained calm.
We both joined the M1 in the roadworks and the opportunity arose to join the middle lane almost immediately.
Mr Volvo driver also took that opportunity, but he did it without indicating or looking, otherwise he'd have seen that I was in the process of passing him.
My wife informs me he stared resoutely ahead as we went past. If he'd just put a hand up to acknowledge his two dangerous errors I wouldn't be labelling him a knob.
yellowjack said:
And don't get me started on that absolute abortion bucket of a taxi driver driving a Mercedes Benz on the M3 near Winchester. I was driving with the electronic limiter on, selected as 65 mph indicated because I was nursing a low fuel level home. Six times I caught up to him, then moved into lane 2 to overtake him. Each time, as I drew level with the rear of his car he pushed his right foot further to the floor. Each time I shrugged my shoulders, quietly called him an unpleasant name, and didn't otherwise react. I simply moved back into lane 1 until he invariably slowed down and I caught him again. Then, eventually, I caught him and clicked the limiter up to 75 mph indicated, passed him, and a couple of cars ahead of him, before settling back into lane 1 and 65 mph again. I just wanted to put an end to the nonsense really, but without doing anything to antagonise him, hence making sure I put a few cars between us before easing off. But sure enough, he responded again by passing me at about 85 mph, cut back in too close ahead, then after a (failed) attempt at brake-checking me (I completely expected it at this point) he disappeared like a scalded cat. I carried on at 65 mph limited, and caught up to him dawdling again in lane 1 near the A30 Basingstoke exit. What's with the yo-yo speed? I've no interest in anyone else's speed other than the practicalities of deciding whether it's worth overtaking them or not, but for the love of all that is Holy, pick a speed and just fking-well stick to it unless the road conditions dictate otherwise... 
This! Especially the bit in bold. Number of times you pass / get passed / re-pass someone while staying at the same speed and they get irritated at you repeatedly passing them. NO YOU dking-well stick to it unless the road conditions dictate otherwise... head. There's no "you and me", there's no "us" in this. I DO NOT CARE ONE JOT HOW FAST YOU GO. I care how fast I go, if you want to go faster than me, fine f**k off. If you want to go slower than me, fine, I'll f**k off. But do one or the other.Nearly as bad as the ones who tear past you in roadworks at 65, weave around through heavy traffic at 65, then up the road you pass them because all that time they are doing 65.
People who use dropped kerbs to park on paved areas................just because it's right outside the doors of the gym and all the disabled car park spaces have been already taken by other knobs.
I mean FFS you're going to a gym. There are roughly 50 empty car parking spaces. It will literally take you 20 seconds to walk/waddle the extra 20 yards but no! Whats the point of having a Mitsubishi Trojan if it isnt to fk up the footpath outside the gym.
Dix.
I mean FFS you're going to a gym. There are roughly 50 empty car parking spaces. It will literally take you 20 seconds to walk/waddle the extra 20 yards but no! Whats the point of having a Mitsubishi Trojan if it isnt to f
k up the footpath outside the gym.Dix.
captain_cynic said:
What we need in the UK are fines for obstructing traffic. If you're going slow and there are a line of cars behind you without a legitimate reason, you should be fined for obstruction unless you allow the traffic to pass..
Had a in a Q7 being a road captain this morning. Outside Lane not doing "outside lane speeds" Nothing much in L2. Queue goes back at least 5-6 cars behind meEventually I think sod it, I'll go underneath him. Of course as soon as I do he speeds up.
So I think "well at least he's woken up" pull back out behind him. And he slows back down to the same speed as before.
I hope they're reading this and learn that everyone in their life hates them
I've never understood why people hold others up. If someone wants to drive faster than you, let them get on with it. Surely better to have them away from you, and not escalate the situation
Pericoloso said:
Liquid Knight said:
So here we go. I went to Ramsgate yesterday
2/ The silver Vauhall Morono van that had ran out of diesel and come to a complete stop in the middle lane of the M2 where the M25 joins it
The M2 does not have a junction on the M25.2/ The silver Vauhall Morono van that had ran out of diesel and come to a complete stop in the middle lane of the M2 where the M25 joins it
The A2 does....
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