One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4

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george123

459 posts

183 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Been covered before I'm sure but the Fedex van driver who decided to take the law into her own hands on the A36 coming north into Salisbury. Rather than allowing the crawling traffic in the outside lane to merge in turn as signposted just before the 2 lanes become 1 , she decided take the law into her own hands and stop a good 200m before the next car in front and 'manage' this process for the rest of us queuing behind her. Stupid tt.

Surprisingly , or not, there's no way of reporting Fedex drivers for bad driving on their website.


Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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george123 said:
Been covered before I'm sure but the Fedex van driver who decided to take the law into her own hands on the A36 coming north into Salisbury. Rather than allowing the crawling traffic in the outside lane to merge in turn as signposted just before the 2 lanes become 1 , she decided take the law into her own hands and stop a good 200m before the next car in front and 'manage' this process for the rest of us queuing behind her. Stupid tt.

Surprisingly , or not, there's no way of reporting Fedex drivers for bad driving on their website.

Wagons often do this.....I don't mind, stops the highly important wkers piling down the outside lane then forcing their way in.

LunarOne

5,220 posts

138 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Ares said:
Wagons often do this.....I don't mind, stops the highly important wkers piling down the outside lane then forcing their way in.
Highly important or not, you are supposed to use both lanes until they merge rather than sitting in one lane and leaving the other one empty.

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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LunarOne said:
Ares said:
Wagons often do this.....I don't mind, stops the highly important wkers piling down the outside lane then forcing their way in.
Highly important or not, you are supposed to use both lanes until they merge rather than sitting in one lane and leaving the other one empty.
It really winds me up when road captains do this.

If the Highways Department wanted the merge point several hundred metres earlier, they'd have put it several hundred metres earlier, you idiot clungenugget.

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Ares said:
Wagons often do this.....I don't mind, stops the highly important wkers piling down the outside lane then forcing their way in.
Wagons?
Haven’t heard that word for ages,
I think it’s used mostly up north.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Frank7 said:
Ares said:
Wagons often do this.....I don't mind, stops the highly important wkers piling down the outside lane then forcing their way in.
Wagons?
Haven’t heard that word for ages,
I think it’s used mostly up north.
banghead Why do these people have such difficulty with zip merging and using all the available road space? Utter muppets.

Use all the available space. Clearly is this about as well understood as keeping left on a motorway:

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/driving-advice/...

redcard Ares, I notice you’ve been hanging by a thread for a while. Time to hand in your PH card methinks...

george123

459 posts

183 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Europa1 said:
It really winds me up when road captains do this.

If the Highways Department wanted the merge point several hundred metres earlier, they'd have put it several hundred metres earlier, you idiot clungenugget.
This one doesn't have it but you do see other similar 2 into 1 lanes with signage saying 'merge in turn'

george123

459 posts

183 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Ares said:
Wagons often do this.....I don't mind, stops the highly important wkers piling down the outside lane then forcing their way in.
Agree if its fast moving traffic and someone screams down the outside to cut in last second....... but in this situation with crawling traffic, there's no excuse. Proper tosser.

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Schmed said:
banghead Why do these people have such difficulty with zip merging and using all the available road space? Utter muppets.

Use all the available space. Clearly is this about as well understood as keeping left on a motorway:

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/driving-advice/...
Nail on head, I used to see commercials on German TV, which showed a zip being gradually closed, each piece of the zip was portrayed as a car, dropping into line one behind the other.
The zip was shown laid out on two lanes of an autobahn, with one closed off, and the voice-over, according to my German daughter-in-law was saying, “Go in turn, and we all arrive quicker.”

carlove

7,572 posts

168 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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donkmeister said:
When I learned to drive (in the UK) I was taught that dipped beam went on at dusk or in any conditions where it got a bit darker, like dusk. So rain, fog, solar eclipse, heavily overcast. I was taught that side-lights are only parking lights.

That was in the 90s, and it conflicted with what my dad had learned in the 60s, so perhaps the rules or perceived wisdom changed at some point. Or perhaps it was down to the instructor.

ETA this may still be the case, but in 1997 it was certainly the case that you didn't "have" to drive with your lights on in built-up areas with streetlighting. But it's common sense to put your lights on regardless so people can see you are proceeding rather than parked.
I passed in 2013, I was taught to use dipped beams rather than sidelights for the same reason. I’ve personally always thought if visibility is reduced to put sidelights on might as well dip.

I think legally you only need to use sidelights in street light areas, but for me common sense is to use dipped beams. A lot of sidelights are actually quite tricky to notice at night. In fact sidelights are tricky to spot in heavy rain I find. Especially an older car with retrofitted LED sidelight bulbs, they look off until you get close.

carlove

7,572 posts

168 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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Europa1 said:
It really winds me up when road captains do this.

If the Highways Department wanted the merge point several hundred metres earlier, they'd have put it several hundred metres earlier, you idiot clungenugget.
Completely agree, I think some people think the merge lanes are there for decoration. They’ve “upgraded” a roundabout on my commute to include merge in turn, took about a year (!), now it’s done nobody uses the merge lane unless they’ve used the wrong lane then cut in when exiting the roundabout(I’ve not actually seen any accidents but there’s often bits of car at the exit) . Those who do use the merge lane correctly just have people attempting to block them.

It’s pathetic behaviour whether a car, van or lorry. All I can say to people who block others from merging is get a life and grow up. Same dheads who will accelerate when someone overtakes and flashes the lights when they’re done.

21st Century Man

40,939 posts

249 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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There was a short stretch of DC in Derby that had "merge in turn" signs approaching the pinch point, but road captains would block the outside lane well before this. To their credit the council put up more signs saying "use both lanes" before the "merge in turn" sign and then a final sign saying "merge here" at the pinch point.


LetsTryAgain

2,904 posts

74 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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george123 said:
Been covered before I'm sure but the Fedex van driver who decided to take the law into her own hands on the A36 coming north into Salisbury. Rather than allowing the crawling traffic in the outside lane to merge in turn as signposted just before the 2 lanes become 1 , she decided take the law into her own hands and stop a good 200m before the next car in front and 'manage' this process for the rest of us queuing behind her. Stupid tt.

Surprisingly , or not, there's no way of reporting Fedex drivers for bad driving on their website.

Literal moron.
They need pulling off the road.

matchmaker

8,496 posts

201 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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OpulentBob said:
A general rule of thumb is - can you roll a tennis ball from one side of the road to another. If you can, it's a single carriageway. If not, it's a dual.

It's not a perfect definition, and there are instances where you can have unkerbed central islands, but it's a good indicator when explaining the difference to, shall we say, non-enthusiasts. (As a highways engineer, I have this discussion a lot.)
Here's a dual carriageway with a 20mph limit, speed bumps, and one lane in each direction:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@56.1128045,-3.79398...

Broad Street in Alloa. According to legend, it was created for the Earl of Mar to cope with the heavy coal traffic from his mines to and from Alloa Docks. Don't know how true this is!



anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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lets be honest here merge in turn only really works with free flowing traffic. You end up with idiots belting it to the closest point to get ahead of the cars, fair enough but that isn't merge in turn is it?

HTP99

22,581 posts

141 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
lets be honest here merge in turn only really works with free flowing traffic. You end up with idiots belting it to the closest point to get ahead of the cars, fair enough but that isn't merge in turn is it?
Well if everyone used all available lanes properly, the traffic would flow much more freely and you wouldnt "end up with idiots belting it to the closest point to get ahead of the cars".

Personally I see absolutely nothing wrong with doing that, it's the idiots not using both lanes that are causing the problem.

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
lets be honest here merge in turn only really works with free flowing traffic. You end up with idiots belting it to the closest point to get ahead of the cars, fair enough but that isn't merge in turn is it?
Are they the idiots, or are the idiots the people who cannot grasp the concept of merging at the merge point, not several hundred yards before it?

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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HTP99 said:
Well if everyone used all available lanes properly, the traffic would flow much more freely and you wouldnt "end up with idiots belting it to the closest point to get ahead of the cars".

Personally I see absolutely nothing wrong with doing that, it's the idiots not using both lanes that are causing the problem.
The thing is, merge in turn only works if there is certain speed of the cars and traffic is not dense.

In the vast majority of cases it doesn't work as intended and usually used to reduce tailback length, where merge in tuen would improve traffic speed.

Driving to the end, to turn in on densely pack traffic flowing at a slow speed, does not improve overall traffic speed.

Someone posted a video up that explains it much better than i can, but it always becomes a binary argument.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 28th August 17:57

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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LunarOne said:
Ares said:
Wagons often do this.....I don't mind, stops the highly important wkers piling down the outside lane then forcing their way in.
Highly important or not, you are supposed to use both lanes until they merge rather than sitting in one lane and leaving the other one empty.
The 'Use Both Lanes When Queueing' signs are becoming ubiquitous. And not before time. But at a nine month road works near me few take any notice and Q in the open lane.
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nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Friday 28th August 2020
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LetsTryAgain said:
george123 said:
Been covered before I'm sure but the Fedex van driver who decided to take the law into her own hands on the A36 coming north into Salisbury. Rather than allowing the crawling traffic in the outside lane to merge in turn as signposted just before the 2 lanes become 1 , she decided take the law into her own hands and stop a good 200m before the next car in front and 'manage' this process for the rest of us queuing behind her. Stupid tt.

Surprisingly , or not, there's no way of reporting Fedex drivers for bad driving on their website.

Literal moron.
They need pulling off the road.
I'm sure you can get a phone number from their website to lodge a complaint. You have the evidence.

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