What is happening at EVO magazine?

What is happening at EVO magazine?

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s m

23,240 posts

204 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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simonrockman said:
Have they stopped making cars in Italy?
I think Ferrari make something new every issue

new_bloke

452 posts

285 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Does anyone here have a subscription to EVO on kindle / Amazon? Have you received issue #268 yet?

simonrockman

6,858 posts

256 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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s m said:
I think Ferrari make something new every issue
But clearly nothing worth including in eCoty. The only Italian is the Lamborghini in the runner's up.

thegreenhell

15,389 posts

220 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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suffolk009

5,425 posts

166 months

Saturday 28th December 2019
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I should stop my subscription. It's only because I still have every issue from No1 and I like a complete set.

I suppose I'm hoping they'll get their st together in the near future.

I couldn't even read all of eCOTY this month.

Smifffy

1,987 posts

267 months

Saturday 28th December 2019
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This year's eCoty has led to my 2nd (and final) unsubscribe from EVO. Its remarkable how far this magazine has lost its way and become a corporate feeling, sterile periodical.

Years ago - if you'd have told the writers they were doing eCoty at a private racetrack, cars arriving in transporters after a night in a 5* hotel - I suspect they'd have scoffed or thought Lord Harry had lost his head.

For sure it's left me cold. The whole eCoty piece this year felt like an over managed car launch event.

Where was the grisly breakfast, car park filled with amazed locals and journalists who felt they'd won the lottery - followed by the empassioned dissection of each car's performance. Heroes dethroned and arguments over bacon sandwiches. The Evo triangle ruthlessly showing how pristine track heroes fall apart on the best of British Black tarmac.

The prose used to draw you in. You could smell the cigarette smoke at pit stops and wish you were one of the years-long friends finding themselves testing amazing cars in wind, rain and the grey gloom.

Nope. Not any more.

To the makers of Evo: Chop the production budget by a minimum of 75%. Force the journos to be creative with less. If they can't then rotate the staff until you've got a crew who genuinely remember what it's like to drive a supercar for the 1st time and aren't so jaded that it's just another manufacturer event at the Paul Ricard.

As for this month: I didn't feel a thing. The thrill of driving this is not.

trackdemon

12,193 posts

262 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Smifffy said:
This year's eCoty has led to my 2nd (and final) unsubscribe from EVO. Its remarkable how far this magazine has lost its way and become a corporate feeling, sterile periodical.

Years ago - if you'd have told the writers they were doing eCoty at a private racetrack, cars arriving in transporters after a night in a 5* hotel - I suspect they'd have scoffed or thought Lord Harry had lost his head.

For sure it's left me cold. The whole eCoty piece this year felt like an over managed car launch event.

Where was the grisly breakfast, car park filled with amazed locals and journalists who felt they'd won the lottery - followed by the empassioned dissection of each car's performance. Heroes dethroned and arguments over bacon sandwiches. The Evo triangle ruthlessly showing how pristine track heroes fall apart on the best of British Black tarmac.

The prose used to draw you in. You could smell the cigarette smoke at pit stops and wish you were one of the years-long friends finding themselves testing amazing cars in wind, rain and the grey gloom.

Nope. Not any more.

To the makers of Evo: Chop the production budget by a minimum of 75%. Force the journos to be creative with less. If they can't then rotate the staff until you've got a crew who genuinely remember what it's like to drive a supercar for the 1st time and aren't so jaded that it's just another manufacturer event at the Paul Ricard.

As for this month: I didn't feel a thing. The thrill of driving this is not.
Christ, pretty harsh. It's not the first eCoty that's been held abroad - as far back as 2001, they were jaunting around Italy and had a test track with a much bigger selection of cars including a Zonda. There's been plenty held abroad since then. It's a massive step back to form from when the 720S won

Zarco

17,887 posts

210 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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trackdemon said:
Smifffy said:
This year's eCoty has led to my 2nd (and final) unsubscribe from EVO. Its remarkable how far this magazine has lost its way and become a corporate feeling, sterile periodical.

Years ago - if you'd have told the writers they were doing eCoty at a private racetrack, cars arriving in transporters after a night in a 5* hotel - I suspect they'd have scoffed or thought Lord Harry had lost his head.

For sure it's left me cold. The whole eCoty piece this year felt like an over managed car launch event.

Where was the grisly breakfast, car park filled with amazed locals and journalists who felt they'd won the lottery - followed by the empassioned dissection of each car's performance. Heroes dethroned and arguments over bacon sandwiches. The Evo triangle ruthlessly showing how pristine track heroes fall apart on the best of British Black tarmac.

The prose used to draw you in. You could smell the cigarette smoke at pit stops and wish you were one of the years-long friends finding themselves testing amazing cars in wind, rain and the grey gloom.

Nope. Not any more.

To the makers of Evo: Chop the production budget by a minimum of 75%. Force the journos to be creative with less. If they can't then rotate the staff until you've got a crew who genuinely remember what it's like to drive a supercar for the 1st time and aren't so jaded that it's just another manufacturer event at the Paul Ricard.

As for this month: I didn't feel a thing. The thrill of driving this is not.
Christ, pretty harsh. It's not the first eCoty that's been held abroad - as far back as 2001, they were jaunting around Italy and had a test track with a much bigger selection of cars including a Zonda. There's been plenty held abroad since then. It's a massive step back to form from when the 720S won
He's right that there is something missing from EVO these days (these days being the last 5yrs).

acme

2,971 posts

199 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Re the number/choice of cars, in the testers notes section after the main article Dickie stated 2019 wouldn’t go down as a Classic year for Evo type cars, perhaps this explains it/their logic?

Crippo

1,187 posts

221 months

Monday 30th December 2019
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I stopped reading EVO when they started advertising watches, it was around the time cars got less interesting. They just became too technical and electronic. Somehow it was all about numbers and show rather then feel and passion.

phlap

563 posts

253 months

Monday 30th December 2019
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The latest ECOTY issue was my last straw which is sad having after buying every issue from day 1.
There is now more interesting content in a weekly like Autocar. Owning a five star car used to feel somehow meaningful. Now it is irrelevant. Like many others have said Modern Classics has filled the gap. Subscription cancelled.

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Monday 30th December 2019
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Crippo said:
I stopped reading EVO when they started advertising watches, it was around the time cars got less interesting. They just became too technical and electronic. Somehow it was all about numbers and show rather then feel and passion.
same here I like cars not watches!
I don't ever buy annual COTY issue nowadays

K50 DEL

9,237 posts

229 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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thegreenhell said:
That is the first online content that Evo produce that I have ever looked at....

What a noise that Jag produces, think it would be my coty simply for that!

Hitch

6,107 posts

195 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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Wasn't the A35 launched in 2018 and the Jag (with wing) in 2016/17? Seems an odd line up.

Edit: A45 it is then, silly me.

I've just subscribed to the mag at £36 for the year. Seems a bargain at that price even if I can't smell the tobacco. I agree with the idea of cutting the production budget and hiring journalists who have a talent for describing the character of the cars rather than regurgitating press launch bobbins.

Edited by Hitch on Saturday 4th January 13:51

lowdrag

12,897 posts

214 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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Isn't the problem that (and I hope at least some of you will agree) there is virtually nothing to write about any more? The day of the car as we have known it is coming to an end (unless someone someday realises that hydrogen is the future) and most issues/comparisons/ reviews/ whatever have been done to death. I wrote classic articles for years, and in the end there is only so much one can say about performance/economy/handling - unless we get into the boring boring talk of values and what is the best buy. I now subscribe to not one magazine, although an article was recently written about one of my cars and the result was a load of his imagination. It was nothing like the truth, and was purely written to titillate the readers. I once was present when a D-type was tested by a magazine which had a green cover, changed to red and then back again. It talked of handling on the limit, the ease of opposite locking, the howl of the engine as it came on cam; wonderful reading. Except it never happened. They weren't allowed to drive it so I towed it around the circuit with a Toyota Previa. The tow rope was airbrushed out of course.

simonrockman

6,858 posts

256 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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Smifffy said:
This year's eCoty has led to my 2nd (and final) unsubscribe from EVO. Its remarkable how far this magazine has lost its way and become a corporate feeling, sterile periodical.

Years ago - if you'd have told the writers they were doing eCoty at a private racetrack, cars arriving in transporters after a night in a 5* hotel - I suspect they'd have scoffed or thought Lord Harry had lost his head.

For sure it's left me cold. The whole eCoty piece this year felt like an over managed car launch event.

Where was the grisly breakfast, car park filled with amazed locals and journalists who felt they'd won the lottery - followed by the empassioned dissection of each car's performance. Heroes dethroned and arguments over bacon sandwiches. The Evo triangle ruthlessly showing how pristine track heroes fall apart on the best of British Black tarmac.

The prose used to draw you in. You could smell the cigarette smoke at pit stops and wish you were one of the years-long friends finding themselves testing amazing cars in wind, rain and the grey gloom.

Nope. Not any more.

To the makers of Evo: Chop the production budget by a minimum of 75%. Force the journos to be creative with less. If they can't then rotate the staff until you've got a crew who genuinely remember what it's like to drive a supercar for the 1st time and aren't so jaded that it's just another manufacturer event at the Paul Ricard.

As for this month: I didn't feel a thing. The thrill of driving this is not.
I disagree and agree at the same time.

I read car magazines for some escapism. So I'm perfectly happy with Evo using Ascari. You don't have to suffer for art. But it's because of that I want escapist cars. At least one of the new Ferraris launched last year, A Lotus, and Aston Martin. The choice here was full of cars which were amazing despite being a hatchback, saloon or with an ash frame. I want to read about things which are no-compromise. And if it's an exercise in looking across all kinds of different genres of car where is the 0-60 in 2.9 Model 3 Performance?

I also know that when I do get to drive things which magazines have strong views on I feel differently. I love the Alfa 4c and the Focus RS. The Renaultsport offerings leave me cold and I find most 911s bland.

We all know what makes the driveiest car - lightweight, low CoG, too much power, two doors, two seats and the engine in the middle. Only one car in the line up had that and so it comes as no surprise when it wins.

trackdemon

12,193 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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lowdrag said:
Isn't the problem that (and I hope at least some of you will agree) there is virtually nothing to write about any more? The day of the car as we have known it is coming to an end (unless someone someday realises that hydrogen is the future) and most issues/comparisons/ reviews/ whatever have been done to death. I wrote classic articles for years, and in the end there is only so much one can say about performance/economy/handling - unless we get into the boring boring talk of values and what is the best buy. I now subscribe to not one magazine, although an article was recently written about one of my cars and the result was a load of his imagination. It was nothing like the truth, and was purely written to titillate the readers. I once was present when a D-type was tested by a magazine which had a green cover, changed to red and then back again. It talked of handling on the limit, the ease of opposite locking, the howl of the engine as it came on cam; wonderful reading. Except it never happened. They weren't allowed to drive it so I towed it around the circuit with a Toyota Previa. The tow rope was airbrushed out of course.
The industry is going through more change than ever before, there's tons to talk about. If doing a feature with a car, it doesn't have to be just about the limit handling and noise - paint a picture, tell a story. ICE cars are going to be around for a long time yet, so whilst recreational driving will shrink and shift, it's not going to just disappear.
What you mention about proxy writing isn't that rare sadly - circumstances can be tricky. I've heard of stuff like the D Type story before, and whilst it's a shame, if the writer is a properly experienced journo he can put you behind the wheel of that car drawing from years of experiences and miles in the same car. We'd all rather it was authentic of course (this goes for the photography too - I hate shots edited to look like a drift shot when it's obviously be done in photoshop) but whilst the values of these things continue upwards (and with the Mark Hales situation probably fresh in the minds of many) a slow trundle followed by photoshop & creative writing might become more prevalent in the high value classic arena.

greenarrow

3,600 posts

118 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Just re-booting this thread to ask the question - where is the current issue? By my reckoning it was due in the shops this Weds (the EVO website suggests subs were to be posted out on 2/1/20) but I cant find it any where in the usual retail outlets.... . following all our criticism last month, has it finally succumbed to magazine fatigue and the cancellation of subscriptions.....?

itcaptainslow

3,703 posts

137 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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greenarrow said:
Just re-booting this thread to ask the question - where is the current issue? By my reckoning it was due in the shops this Weds (the EVO website suggests subs were to be posted out on 2/1/20) but I cant find it any where in the usual retail outlets.... . following all our criticism last month, has it finally succumbed to magazine fatigue and the cancellation of subscriptions.....?
I haven’t received mine.

monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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itcaptainslow said:
greenarrow said:
Just re-booting this thread to ask the question - where is the current issue? By my reckoning it was due in the shops this Weds (the EVO website suggests subs were to be posted out on 2/1/20) but I cant find it any where in the usual retail outlets.... . following all our criticism last month, has it finally succumbed to magazine fatigue and the cancellation of subscriptions.....?
I haven’t received mine.
What issue are we on? I've lost track...