What is happening at EVO magazine?

[havoc]

Hmmm...mine's still not arrived and I'm firmly in the middle of the country!

[SS427 Camaro]

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

[plenty]

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

They've done loads of pieces on the 182, although in typical evo style they obsess over the limited-edition Trophy and ignore the fact that the cooking model is almost as good (and can be easily made better with a few sympathetic mods).

See also: Impreza RB5, 968 CS, Megane R26.R

[s m]

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

When you say “a test” you mean driving impressions rather than timings/breakdown of vehicle stats I guess. EVO only tended to do acceleration/incremental times early on.

Autocar/What Car would be a better bet for pure stats/figures

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Looks like EVO is leaning more and more into the Modern Classics sector. I remember the tests such as this month's cover were usually triggered by a hot new model being put through the mill against a legendary back catalogue

[daveco]

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

They did a 1 page review of E46 330d coupe - like the petrol counterpart it got 4.5 stars. They were very impressed with it.

Autocar also reviewed a remapped version of the same car (still covered by BMW's warranty at the time) and were also very impressed with it.

Autocar gave the E46 330ci 5 stars iirc

[trackdemon]

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

They definitely tested E46 albeit a long time ago as a first drive when that model was new.... Good luck finding it! I have every mag, but I'm sorry, I'm not going looking for it (ok maybe as an E46 fan I will )

[s m]

daveco said:

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

They did a 1 page review of E46 330d coupe - like the petrol counterpart it got 4.5 stars. They were very impressed with it.

Autocar also reviewed a remapped version of the same car (still covered by BMW's warranty at the time) and were also very impressed with it.

Autocar gave the E46 330ci 5 stars iirc

The remapped one was the DMS one wasn’t it? 60 in 5.9 rather than 7.1 ( 204bhp version )

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trackdemon said:

They definitely tested E46 albeit a long time ago as a first drive when that model was new.... Good luck finding it! I have every mag, but I'm sorry, I'm not going looking for it (ok maybe as an E46 fan I will )

This shows how far the interest in cars in general has fallen...I recall the E46 330i saloon mega test v the equivalent X type, C class, A4. They went to Germany for it. The 330i went sub 6s to 60 which was hugely impressive and got a 4.5* rating. Have always desired a manual 330ci facelift ever since.

Nowadays it's all cloned 2.0 turbos. I enjoyed the recent head to head between the Giulia and XE, but straight away I knew the Alfa would take it.

There used to be tangible differences between the road-holding of regular cars. Where a three series or Mondeo stood out. Now its about picking the nicest interior and flashiest badge

[SydneyBridge]

Search on the website

https://www.evo.co.uk/search/e46

And

https://www.evo.co.uk/search/clio%20182

Edited by SydneyBridge on Wednesday 13th March 10:10

[s m]

trackdemon said:

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

They definitely tested E46 albeit a long time ago as a first drive when that model was new.... Good luck finding it! I have every mag, but I'm sorry, I'm not going looking for it (ok maybe as an E46 fan I will )

April 2004 EVO is a good one to look at for the Clio 182 perhaps.

Reviewed against stuff like the Cooper S, ST170 etc

They also have performance timings in that article

[trackdemon]

trackdemon said:

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

They definitely tested E46 albeit a long time ago as a first drive when that model was new.... Good luck finding it! I have every mag, but I'm sorry, I'm not going looking for it (ok maybe as an E46 fan I will )

I caved. Just had a quick look at my library - the only mag I keep. It's issue 21, 'Driven' 330Ci (Clubsport is, fittingly, issue 46). Verdict: 5 stars "Worlds best 6 in worlds best junior exec". Worth checking ebay as there's some excellent features in that one including a cool Capri 2.8i piece

[s m]

trackdemon said:

trackdemon said:

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

They definitely tested E46 albeit a long time ago as a first drive when that model was new.... Good luck finding it! I have every mag, but I'm sorry, I'm not going looking for it (ok maybe as an E46 fan I will )

I caved. Just had a quick look at my library - the only mag I keep. It's issue 21, 'Driven' 330Ci (Clubsport is, fittingly, issue 46). Verdict: 5 stars "Worlds best 6 in worlds best junior exec". Worth checking ebay as there's some excellent features in that one including a cool Capri 2.8i piece

Is that the i rather than the d though

[Patrick Bateman]

330d an icon?

The 330Ci isn't an icon, let alone the diesel.

[trackdemon]

s m said:

trackdemon said:

trackdemon said:

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

They definitely tested E46 albeit a long time ago as a first drive when that model was new.... Good luck finding it! I have every mag, but I'm sorry, I'm not going looking for it (ok maybe as an E46 fan I will )

I caved. Just had a quick look at my library - the only mag I keep. It's issue 21, 'Driven' 330Ci (Clubsport is, fittingly, issue 46). Verdict: 5 stars "Worlds best 6 in worlds best junior exec". Worth checking ebay as there's some excellent features in that one including a cool Capri 2.8i piece

Is that the i rather than the d though

'fraid so. Safe to say you can supplant the overall verdict though - in that era the 330d had by far the best engine in its class. I have one & have driven several 30i and your swapping power for torque - lots of torque. For a derv, the 330d revs quite well but of course isn't like the 330i, equally the 330i couldn't dream of the torque punch the 330d gives from 1500rpm onwards. Probably not much in it in terms of acceleration in real world driving, but 10-15mpg better in the 330d (I usually get 45mpg, 50mpg quite easy on a long run)

[daveco]

s m said:

daveco said:

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

They did a 1 page review of E46 330d coupe - like the petrol counterpart it got 4.5 stars. They were very impressed with it.

Autocar also reviewed a remapped version of the same car (still covered by BMW's warranty at the time) and were also very impressed with it.

Autocar gave the E46 330ci 5 stars iirc

The remapped one was the DMS one wasn’t it? 60 in 5.9 rather than 7.1 ( 204bhp version )

That's the one. Still got over 40mpg combined. Very impressive performance numbers from a remap.

[havoc]

trackdemon said:

'fraid so. Safe to say you can supplant the overall verdict though - in that era the 330d had by far the best engine in its class. I have one & have driven several 30i and your swapping power for torque - lots of torque. For a derv, the 330d revs quite well but of course isn't like the 330i, equally the 330i couldn't dream of the torque punch the 330d gives from 1500rpm onwards. Probably not much in it in terms of acceleration in real world driving, but 10-15mpg better in the 330d (I usually get 45mpg, 50mpg quite easy on a long run)

I've not owned either but I've driven both a few times and I can confirm - the 30d is remarkably un-diesel-like for those used to 4-cyl single-turbo diesels, while the 30i (in either N52 or N53 form) is beautifully smooth and linear but almost too smooth and linear - it's an engine you don't really notice and certainly not one that inspires / excites.

[s m]

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

If you did mean the diesel ( prompted by SOTW maybe ), here’s the Autocar test for the 184bhp version



As mentioned, they did a quick notes review of the 204bhp version and here’s the times for the remapped one




A remap takes it from 2.8 Capri acceleration to the ton to a much higher level

[thegreenhell]

thegreenhell said:

samoht said:

evo customer service said:

The price quoted is correct. The discounted rates previously available to your subscription no longer apply. We offer reduced introductory rates to encourage new readers to subscribe to Evo for the first time. There is then a steady progression through so eventually all our subscribers will pay the same full subscription price.

Our normal rate does represent a saving compared to with the newsstand price and does include the convenience of delivery to the door. The subscription rate also protects against any increase that may take place within the subscription period.

The very least I expected was to acknowledge that their letter was incorrect, instead of repeating the obvious nonsense about the discounted rate.

I suspect the bolded part will become true sooner than later. The cover price already went up from £5.25 to £5.99 twelve months ago, and print costs aren't going to be getting any cheaper as circulations decline.

As predicted the cover price has taken another jump this month, now £6.50.

[GeniusOfLove]

trackdemon said:

s m said:

trackdemon said:

trackdemon said:

SS427 Camaro said:

BMW E46 330D Sport Coupe - Renault Clio RS182
Anyone recall if EVO ( or any other mags ) did a test feature on these 2 icons ?

They definitely tested E46 albeit a long time ago as a first drive when that model was new.... Good luck finding it! I have every mag, but I'm sorry, I'm not going looking for it (ok maybe as an E46 fan I will )

I caved. Just had a quick look at my library - the only mag I keep. It's issue 21, 'Driven' 330Ci (Clubsport is, fittingly, issue 46). Verdict: 5 stars "Worlds best 6 in worlds best junior exec". Worth checking ebay as there's some excellent features in that one including a cool Capri 2.8i piece

Is that the i rather than the d though

'fraid so. Safe to say you can supplant the overall verdict though - in that era the 330d had by far the best engine in its class. I have one & have driven several 30i and your swapping power for torque - lots of torque. For a derv, the 330d revs quite well but of course isn't like the 330i, equally the 330i couldn't dream of the torque punch the 330d gives from 1500rpm onwards. Probably not much in it in terms of acceleration in real world driving, but 10-15mpg better in the 330d (I usually get 45mpg, 50mpg quite easy on a long run)

Those mid sized six cylinder diesel engines completely finished off mid sized six and smaller eight cylinder engines for good reason. I'm no fan of soot chuckers but I'd have had a 330d over a NASP 330i all day long, and not just because of the economy difference.