What is happening at EVO magazine?

[Mr Whippy]

trackdemon said:

Monkeylegend said:

My son had a 3 litre roadster, lovely engine, er lovely engine, but that ride and interior I could not live with. The only redeeming feature of the coupe is that it is a better all year round car with a lovely engine, and er a lovely engine.

The Coupe had a much better chassis; stiffer shell allowed them to retune it. Ditch runflats and it was a proper fun thing. Not sophisticated in a Cayman sense, but a lot of fun - and it looks great, especially rear 3/4.

How is the Coupe better all year round?

The Roadster roof felt just like all my hard top car roofs from the inside.

Interior, taste. What specifically didn’t you like?

Ride is hard, but with rft remover it’s tolerable.
It only gets annoying on rough roads then.
But the trade off is I don’t think I ever felt it getting too far out of shape on the road.

Coupe is stiffer etc, but the Roadster is still amply stiff for a road Roadster.
I’m not sure I could ever tell unless you maybe had an M one on track putting serious forces through it.

[Monkeylegend]

Mr Whippy said:

How is the Coupe better all year round?

The Roadster roof felt just like all my hard top car roofs from the inside.

Interior, taste. What specifically didn’t you like?

Ride is hard, but with rft remover it’s tolerable.
It only gets annoying on rough roads then.
But the trade off is I don’t think I ever felt it getting too far out of shape on the road.

Coupe is stiffer etc, but the Roadster is still amply stiff for a road Roadster.
I’m not sure I could ever tell unless you maybe had an M one on track putting serious forces through it.

More practical with the back hatch, and more suited than a convertible to wintry weather, unless you have an expensive hard top. The coupe also is a better looking car.

As for the interior, well apart from the instrument binnacle what is there apart from a wide swathe of "nothing".

Lovely engine though the 3 litre.

[trackdemon]

Monkeylegend said:

Mr Whippy said:

How is the Coupe better all year round?

The Roadster roof felt just like all my hard top car roofs from the inside.

Interior, taste. What specifically didn’t you like?

Ride is hard, but with rft remover it’s tolerable.
It only gets annoying on rough roads then.
But the trade off is I don’t think I ever felt it getting too far out of shape on the road.

Coupe is stiffer etc, but the Roadster is still amply stiff for a road Roadster.
I’m not sure I could ever tell unless you maybe had an M one on track putting serious forces through it.

More practical with the back hatch, and more suited than a convertible to wintry weather, unless you have an expensive hard top. The coupe also is a better looking car.

As for the interior, well apart from the instrument binnacle what is there apart from a wide swathe of "nothing".

Lovely engine though the 3 litre.

Swathe of nothing? Mine had aluminium trim like this, surrounded by leather and textured plastics. Don't see the problem.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

I'm not really sure what this bun fight has to do with EVO. Different people like different things - that's why there are so many models and variants to choose from.

[Baron von Teuchter]

It's got better recently.

I sub to Modern Classics, PPC, Retroford and Evo - all 4 have their place and are different enough to keep me entertained on the bog.

[lowdrag]

greenarrow said:

oceanview said:

Yes, as you said yourself, your car is "boring as hell" - I don't think mine is , so you might as well caught the bus!

Care to let us know what wonderful car is in your garage. Like so many posters on PH who troll a particular car and the people who speak up for it, largely based on arguments which are flawed (no 1.6 TDI Fiesta is going to outgun an MX-5 - even the original 1.6..).... you do not divulge what cars are in your garage. Fair enough you don't like it but to dismiss it as "pants" is nothing but trolling.

Back on topic.... pleased to see an EVO featuring cheaper cars...I enjoyed last month's too...thought the Civic Type R was lucky to beat the Megane.... Just 0.4 secs quicker on track, despite the 36BHP power advantage!!

As for classic cars....don't despair, buy an emerging popular classic..... lets face it our roads are so congested and full of speed cameras a really fast car is an irrelevance. I'm enjoying rattling around in an old Mk1 Ford Ka I've bought for my daughter. floats over the bumps, flies through roundabouts and all it at no more than 45-50MPH!! If a Ka is too slow (and frankly it is on any sort of fast road), just buy an old Puma or a Clio 182. Cheap as chips and more than enough grunt to be fun on a B road.

Thank you greenarrow for your support. If you look at my profile I do have "interesting" cars, but everyday transport is to me just that - transport. And cheap transport too. I am on my third Mercedes in 25 years and have spent £4,000 on repairs. And that's over 350,000 miles. Oh, and the E-type was tested by Evo in 1997 against the then new XK.

[Monkeylegend]

trackdemon said:

Swathe of nothing? Mine had aluminium trim like this, surrounded by leather and textured plastics. Don't see the problem.

Not said there's a problem other than I think it's very bland and I couldn't live with it, nor the ride. The same applies to most BMW interiors of that age afaic .

But then I am a Merc devotee so each to their own

[greenarrow]

Just finished reading the latest EVO. Aside from yet another tedious 911 victory, its almost my perfect issue really.

Loved the 968 Clubsport feature. This was my favourite Porsche back when it was new, I remember buying all the comparison tests when it was Car of the year in Performance Car and Autocar. Its rarely featured these days as its almost like cars from 25 years ago never existed! Loved the Fiesta ST v Clio comparison...also another favourite of mine, the Toyota GT86 is in it and an Impreza. To be honest, those of us that moan of a lack of real world material cant have asked for much more!

BTW, in the Porsche v Lotus v Ford GT v AMG GT-R feature, I think I've fallen in love with the AMG GT-R. Didn't expect it to beat the Exige 430 around a lap. Love the "Fast and Furious" looks too, especially in that lime green!!

[Baron von Teuchter]

Yes i thought this months issue was excellent.

It's on a roll recently, and i think the paper and/or printing has improved too.

[greenarrow]

lowdrag said:

greenarrow said:

oceanview said:

Yes, as you said yourself, your car is "boring as hell" - I don't think mine is , so you might as well caught the bus!

Care to let us know what wonderful car is in your garage. Like so many posters on PH who troll a particular car and the people who speak up for it, largely based on arguments which are flawed (no 1.6 TDI Fiesta is going to outgun an MX-5 - even the original 1.6..).... you do not divulge what cars are in your garage. Fair enough you don't like it but to dismiss it as "pants" is nothing but trolling.

Back on topic.... pleased to see an EVO featuring cheaper cars...I enjoyed last month's too...thought the Civic Type R was lucky to beat the Megane.... Just 0.4 secs quicker on track, despite the 36BHP power advantage!!

As for classic cars....don't despair, buy an emerging popular classic..... lets face it our roads are so congested and full of speed cameras a really fast car is an irrelevance. I'm enjoying rattling around in an old Mk1 Ford Ka I've bought for my daughter. floats over the bumps, flies through roundabouts and all it at no more than 45-50MPH!! If a Ka is too slow (and frankly it is on any sort of fast road), just buy an old Puma or a Clio 182. Cheap as chips and more than enough grunt to be fun on a B road.

Thank you greenarrow for your support. If you look at my profile I do have "interesting" cars, but everyday transport is to me just that - transport. And cheap transport too. I am on my third Mercedes in 25 years and have spent £4,000 on repairs. And that's over 350,000 miles. Oh, and the E-type was tested by Evo in 1997 against the then new XK.

Trying to remember that feature as I bought pretty much every car mag going back then. Would it have been Performance Car, as EVO started a year later?

I've never owned a really expensive or iconic car, but I did briefly enjoy a cheap fling with a CLK 430, which cost me all of £1850 to buy and I had an original Impreza turbo which was quick enough for me. The cars I've enjoyed the most however have been relatively slow, light and simple. My Cinquecento Sporting, an MX-5 and our 205 GTI 1.9. None of them fast in today's market.....

People who dismiss interesting bread and butter cars as too slow and boring are usually not proper enthusiasts IMO. The late James Hunt ran around in a an A35 van and he was hardly a slow driver.....

[bungle]

Baron von Teuchter said:

It's on a roll recently, and i think the paper and/or printing has improved too.

Yeah, they've ditched the "matt" paper and gone back to gloss. I didn't mind the matt, but maybe lots complained!

[Bubba Zanetti]

Issue 256 is now back to the original size and gloss paper format. It is a Porsche heavy issue which some won't like.

21 December the eCOTY edition hits the shelves. Hopefully this return to the format of old rather than the disaster that happened last year.

[Olivera]

I've certainly enjoyed the last few issues.

Good to see ecoty is also coming back after the 2017 debacle.

[cheddar]

Alpine A110 for COTY?

[Sport220]

evo is my absolute favourite car magazine, but can anyone explain to me why they release / date their issues 2/3 months in advance?

[andrewparker]

Olivera said:

I've certainly enjoyed the last few issues.

Good to see ecoty is also coming back after the 2017 debacle.

Likewise, I cancelled my subscription since issue 1 but I can see myself starting it back up again.

[havoc]

Sport220 said:

evo is my absolute favourite car magazine, but can anyone explain to me why they release / date their issues 2/3 months in advance?

Does my swede in. I think it's because they went to 13 issues a year and forgot (to start with) to re-label one as 'Summer'...so rapidly started gaining ground.

[cerb4.5lee]

cheddar said:

Alpine A110 for COTY?

I doubt it because it is a Renault and not a Porsche!! Plus the depreciation is far too unacceptable.

[Sport220]

havoc said:

Does my swede in. I think it's because they went to 13 issues a year and forgot (to start with) to re-label one as 'Summer'...so rapidly started gaining ground.

It really does grind my gears too. February 2019 issue was released like two weeks ago

Also, their obsessive love for all things Porsche. 10 gets you 20 GT2 RS wins eCotY

[Sport220]

Speaking of evo, where can I buy one of their stickers?