RE: Volvo V60 Polestar: Driven

RE: Volvo V60 Polestar: Driven

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blearyeyedboy

6,298 posts

179 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Charlie Michael said:
Once again I ask the question of PH - why do you never show the boot of any estate car you feature?

One of the reasons that people pick an estate is down to the size of the boot, and no article I can remember has an image shown as part of the review.
To be fair, it's not hard to Google images for "Volvo V60 load bay."

wst

3,494 posts

161 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Volvo should find a bit of large furniture that Ikea sells lots of, and design the (seats folded down) load bay/aperture to fit that. "Fitting the sofa in" is Volvo's thing.

The V60 does look nice and this looks quick, so it's not all doom and gloom. It'd be nice to make record Ikea trips with though.

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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wst said:
Volvo should find a bit of large furniture that Ikea sells lots of, and design the (seats folded down) load bay/aperture to fit that. "Fitting the sofa in" is Volvo's thing.

The V60 does look nice and this looks quick, so it's not all doom and gloom. It'd be nice to make record Ikea trips with though.
Not quite sure that's Polestar's objective. wink

wst

3,494 posts

161 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Ares said:
Not quite sure that's Polestar's objective. wink
Well no, Polestar don't get to design the car. I'm saying the V60's gone on the wrong path. Polestar have made something decent out of it, considering. I just wish it could transport furniture like the 850 T5 could...

Charlie Michael

2,750 posts

184 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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blearyeyedboy said:
Charlie Michael said:
Once again I ask the question of PH - why do you never show the boot of any estate car you feature?

One of the reasons that people pick an estate is down to the size of the boot, and no article I can remember has an image shown as part of the review.
To be fair, it's not hard to Google images for "Volvo V60 load bay."
It's also fair to expect an article reviewing an estate to feature that information. You're absolutely right I can google the answer, but that isn't the point -

You'd reasonably expect to hear about performance features of a supercar, but would be a bit suprised if they never told you the horsepower, rather let you google it.

Hub

6,436 posts

198 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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The boot isn't as big as you'd expect of a Volvo - it's more of a generous hatchback!

willmagrath

1,208 posts

146 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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My dad has a 2012 top spec D5 manual. Its a lovely car to drive, nice to look at and very nice to be in. Tbh though, it could do with an autobox. Lazy 5cyl lump doesn't really suit the manual.

blearyeyedboy

6,298 posts

179 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Charlie Michael said:
It's also fair to expect an article reviewing an estate to feature that information. You're absolutely right I can google the answer, but that isn't the point -

You'd reasonably expect to hear about performance features of a supercar, but would be a bit suprised if they never told you the horsepower, rather let you google it.
I can see why you're frustrated, but I view it in a different way. We might have to agree to disagree on this one! smile

This is not reading an article about a supercar; it's an article about the performance model of a more prosaic car. When I read such an article, I'm more interested in how it varies from the basic model, and if I want to learn more about the practicalities of buying a model, then I read the review of the common garden variant.

Bibbs

3,733 posts

210 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
Ozerob said:
Agreed the best looking V8 supercar ever made.
As well as being one of the best sounding V8 Supercars I've heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3jXFJMVrc
They were good, but the Mercedes sounded better IMO.
You could defo tell them going past during a race.

Me during a very wet weekend last year.



This is the sort of thing Polestar *should* be doing. Instead they pull their cars & support.

Charlie Michael

2,750 posts

184 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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blearyeyedboy said:
I can see why you're frustrated, but I view it in a different way. We might have to agree to disagree on this one! smile

This is not reading an article about a supercar; it's an article about the performance model of a more prosaic car. When I read such an article, I'm more interested in how it varies from the basic model, and if I want to learn more about the practicalities of buying a model, then I read the review of the common garden variant.
Agreed, but i want to know what size dog I can fit in my boot whilst taking part in BTCC! hehe

Hub said:
The boot isn't as big as you'd expect of a Volvo - it's more of a generous hatchback!
As others have said, lots of options around that price point - wonder if they'l make a relative bargin in 3-5 years time.

blearyeyedboy

6,298 posts

179 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Hub said:
The boot isn't as big as you'd expect of a Volvo - it's more of a generous hatchback!
Perfectly true. I was looking at more base-level V60s before buying an Octavia estate. The "estate" tag misleads a bit, and the boot floor is quite high, limiting space more than the roofline.

The V60 is probably best viewed as a spacious hatchback that your dog has a bit more headroom in. You certainly won't be lugging around washing machines in one.

Krikkit

26,529 posts

181 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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blearyeyedboy said:
Hub said:
The boot isn't as big as you'd expect of a Volvo - it's more of a generous hatchback!
Perfectly true. I was looking at more base-level V60s before buying an Octavia estate. The "estate" tag misleads a bit, and the boot floor is quite high, limiting space more than the roofline.

The V60 is probably best viewed as a spacious hatchback that your dog has a bit more headroom in. You certainly won't be lugging around washing machines in one.
That's what the V90/XC90's for though...

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Krikkit said:
blearyeyedboy said:
Hub said:
The boot isn't as big as you'd expect of a Volvo - it's more of a generous hatchback!
Perfectly true. I was looking at more base-level V60s before buying an Octavia estate. The "estate" tag misleads a bit, and the boot floor is quite high, limiting space more than the roofline.

The V60 is probably best viewed as a spacious hatchback that your dog has a bit more headroom in. You certainly won't be lugging around washing machines in one.
That's what the V90/XC90's for though...
More so XC90 and XC60.

SUVs are the new estates.

chopper602

2,183 posts

223 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Ares said:
At £40k, this could have a following

But at £50k, you would have to be a big Volvo fan to choose this over more illustrious competitors.
That was about the biggest reason I bought mine in 2015 (6cyl obvs), I got a big £9k off list ! I hear they will talk serious discount on the 4 cyl version too. I think mine was taking up a big lump of showroom space, which TBH was a bit niche and wanted rid of it. Hellova car though!

blearyeyedboy

6,298 posts

179 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Krikkit said:
That's what the V90/XC90's for though...
Exactly my point. For what it is, V60 does a job very well.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Volvo is the only major brand I have no desire to buy a car from. They just look awful and the "old man" image never goes away. I would even buy a Skoda or Kia, in the right model, but never a Volvo.

ZX10R NIN

27,618 posts

125 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Bibbs said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Ozerob said:
Agreed the best looking V8 supercar ever made.
As well as being one of the best sounding V8 Supercars I've heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3jXFJMVrc
They were good, but the Mercedes sounded better IMO.
You could defo tell them going past during a race.

Me during a very wet weekend last year.



This is the sort of thing Polestar *should* be doing. Instead they pull their cars & support.
I agree with you about Polestar & Volvo even if they don't have a V8 in the range this was a great promotional tool.

I have to disagree about the Mercs sounding better though;

https://youtu.be/agnr98gaW9I

Deerfoot

4,902 posts

184 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Yipper said:
Volvo is the only major brand I have no desire to buy a car from. They just look awful and the "old man" image never goes away. I would even buy a Skoda or Kia, in the right model, but never a Volvo.
Being a Volvo owner can I just say that never before have I found one of your comments more satisfying...

valiant

10,234 posts

160 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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blearyeyedboy said:
Krikkit said:
That's what the V90/XC90's for though...
Exactly my point. For what it is, V60 does a job very well.
V60 is more a 'lifestyle' estate where ultimate loadlugging ability is not really an issue - just a bit more space for the occasional tip/diy shed/holiday run.

I've got one in diesel spec and it's great for what it is. I don't need a huge estate but I like having an estate and I prefer the looks over the saloon equivalent. Am seriously tempted by a Polestar as my mileage has changed and will see what they retail like in 2-3 years.

Good, or bad, thing about the V60 is new depreciation is falling-off-a-cliff like so could pick up a relative bargain in a few years.

Someone earlier said why pick one of these instead of the usual German equivalent? Suppose it's a bit left field compared to the competition and I'm not a huge fan of German metal so it appeals to me more. (Not deriding German stuff - just never floated my boat).

smile

chopper602

2,183 posts

223 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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valiant said:
Good, or bad, thing about the V60 is new depreciation is falling-off-a-cliff like so could pick up a relative bargain in a few years.
smile
I'm not sure the same will happen for the Polestar with it's exclusivity though . . .