RE: Corvette ZR-1 - official!
Discussion
Ho Lee Kau said:
There is a reason this is half price and sold to whoever. In hands of professional driver it may be faster on the Ring but that’s about it. It has nothing else on GT2.
That is an amazing scoop you have there of two cars that haven't been released yet, let alone driven by the press.You should call autocar, they regularly publish any old made up bulls
t.The Vambo said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
There is a reason this is half price and sold to whoever. In hands of professional driver it may be faster on the Ring but that’s about it. It has nothing else on GT2.
That is an amazing scoop you have there of two cars that haven't been released yet, let alone driven by the press.You should call autocar, they regularly publish any old made up bulls
t."Despite the Carbon 65 package’s upgrades, the Corvette’s interior leaves a lot to be desired. Yes, we get it—the Vette starts in the mid-$50,000 space, as compared with the better-turned-out Porsche 911 that starts at nearly double that figure. But other $50,000 cars don’t suffer from body creaks over speed bumps, pervasive plasticky smells on hot days, and interior switchgear that’s upstaged by that of many mid-size sedans. Our test car’s door panel, for example, flexed noticeably whenever we pressed the driver’s-seat memory buttons, and with only 1200 miles on its odometer, the car’s climate-control temperature knob was for some reason sticky almost to the point of being entirely stuck."
The Vambo said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
There is a reason this is half price and sold to whoever. In hands of professional driver it may be faster on the Ring but that’s about it. It has nothing else on GT2.
That is an amazing scoop you have there of two cars that haven't been released yet, let alone driven by the press.You should call autocar, they regularly publish any old made up bulls
t.Also read review of Z06 in MotorTrend, that car is already overpowered for the street.
The only muscle car I’d consider from US is Viper, just because it’s totally bonkers and macho and can’t be compared to anything at all.
Ho Lee Kau said:
As readers may have noticed, there are no cars listed on my PH profile. Deep down inside I feel just a little bit inadequate. However, the only muscle car I’d consider from US is Viper, because it’s macho and can’t be compared to anything at all. Please be nice to me.
Bless
I know the current gen of 'vettes are excellent cruisers as well as excellent sports cars. I wonder if this will have the same breadth of ability. The styling says to me that it's almost supposed to be a bit of a handful.
I have no doubt that it will achieve exactly what it aims to but, posturing aside, I will be interested to hear what kind of car this ends up being.
I have no doubt that it will achieve exactly what it aims to but, posturing aside, I will be interested to hear what kind of car this ends up being.
Aren't people being a bit assumptive regarding the price? People start calling it $100k, when it looks more like $135k. Then you have to remember that US dealers can sell above list. So when you factor in importing costs and making it legal, is it still a bargain at $200k?
For comparison, a brand new F150 Raptor works out as £37k. One imported in the UK - brand new - is for sale for £67k. Just the 80% increase...
For comparison, a brand new F150 Raptor works out as £37k. One imported in the UK - brand new - is for sale for £67k. Just the 80% increase...
Matt Harper said:
Interesting that they're not interested in exporting this at all by choosing to ignore regs of any other countries. Looks better from the other angles, will be interesting to see how it performs.
RumbleOfThunder said:
It's not even a close call, sadly. TVR will be too "raw" to be classified as a GT, so it's squarely in the ZR-1's scope.
One's a over weight and electronic techfest. The other is a lightweight car with a NA V8. Chalk and cheese. In my opinion this ZR1 is nothing but a dick waving contest for the majority of buyers who don't know how to drive it. It's clear that it's far easier for manufacturers to get greater and greater HP figures out of their engines than making a car that's lighter and more engaging. Thank god for companies like TVR and Lotus who are bucking this trend. I really can't wait to see what Geely do with Lotus in the near future.
rb26 said:
One's a over weight and electronic techfest. The other is a lightweight car with a NA V8. Chalk and cheese.
In my opinion this ZR1 is nothing but a dick waving contest for the majority of buyers who don't know how to drive it. It's clear that it's far easier for manufacturers to get greater and greater HP figures out of their engines than making a car that's lighter and more engaging. Thank god for companies like TVR and Lotus who are bucking this trend. I really can't wait to see what Geely do with Lotus in the near future.
Literally every car is these things. What percentage of GT2 buyers do you imagine can pedal it? Or any high end "track focused" car come to think of it.In my opinion this ZR1 is nothing but a dick waving contest for the majority of buyers who don't know how to drive it. It's clear that it's far easier for manufacturers to get greater and greater HP figures out of their engines than making a car that's lighter and more engaging. Thank god for companies like TVR and Lotus who are bucking this trend. I really can't wait to see what Geely do with Lotus in the near future.
TVR is 1250 DRY (I'd love to see the final real numbers tbh)
ZR1 is 1600
GT2 is 1500
Don't recall people kicking off about the GT2 weight?
Todd Bonzalez said:
This and the ACR viper are the boys for me. No pratting about like Porsche with preferred customers and all that money just, "HERE'S ALL THE POWER WE COULD FIND AND SOME AERO YA CAN HAVE IT FOR ~100K!"
Magical.
the ACR viper is a great track car but absolutely nuts for UK roads, it's sooo stiffMagical.
rb26 said:
RumbleOfThunder said:
It's not even a close call, sadly. TVR will be too "raw" to be classified as a GT, so it's squarely in the ZR-1's scope.
One's a over weight and electronic techfest. The other is a lightweight car with a NA V8. Chalk and cheese. In my opinion this ZR1 is nothing but a dick waving contest for the majority of buyers who don't know how to drive it. It's clear that it's far easier for manufacturers to get greater and greater HP figures out of their engines than making a car that's lighter and more engaging. Thank god for companies like TVR and Lotus who are bucking this trend. I really can't wait to see what Geely do with Lotus in the near future.
RumbleOfThunder said:
There is nothing overweight about the ZR-1! Also why is it an electronic tech fest? You can spec a manual and while not N/A, the get the same response, sound and "feel" as it's supercharged. Talk about "engagement" is very wishy washy but the ZR-1 will be more thrilling, more fun, and every bit the drivers car the Griff will be.
1600kg to me is not lightweight. Even if the TVR Griffith is 1350kg it's still 250kg lighter than the ZR-1, it may as well be a saloon. In regards to being a techfest, if the Z06 was coined as being 'undriveable' with the aids switched off on the public road. How do you think improving the HP by 100+hp is going to do to the driving experience? The same thing goes for the GT2RS, and 911 in general. It's getting heavier and heavier with each iteration. In my opinion this current HP war is getting rather silly. What's the point of a road car were you can only use about 2/10's of it's performance before you're getting into prison sentence speeds? If your argument is for the track, then there are plenty of other viable options from Radical and Lotus. If your pockets are even deeper you can buy a second hand GT3 car for 488GTB money and it'll show it a clean pair of heels round a high speed track...
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