RE: Volvo S80 V8: Spotted

RE: Volvo S80 V8: Spotted

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Hairymonster

1,430 posts

106 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Jag_NE

2,993 posts

101 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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agree with the other posters re price. you could have three diesel versions of similar vintage for that money. i don't think that car is special enough to command that premium. If it was a low mile minter the price might start to make sense.

BFleming

3,611 posts

144 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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David87 said:
Why did they never put this engine in the V70? biggrin
Seems the S80 V8 was aimed squarely at the US market, where there was no market for a V70 V8 (mostly as V70's are a school run (soccer mom) vehicle there).

BFleming

3,611 posts

144 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Just a thought (and some reading of wikipedia & howmanyleft) and it looks like the 2007-on S80 T6 (not to be confused with the 3.2) is a much rarer car than the V8. There was only a few BHP in the difference too. I guess they were mostly in white with some lights on the roof though.

bigbadbikercats

634 posts

209 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Valgar said:
These sound pretty incredible with an aftermarket exhaust, one of the best V8s I've ever heard
Is this the motor which their (late lamented) Aussie V8 Supercar was based on?

That sounded fantastic, and distinctly different to the rest of the field (flat plane crank or just the V angle?) - much more of a European Thorobred rasp than a US bellow...

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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BFleming said:
Just a thought (and some reading of wikipedia & howmanyleft) and it looks like the 2007-on S80 T6 (not to be confused with the 3.2) is a much rarer car than the V8. There was only a few BHP in the difference too. I guess they were mostly in white with some lights on the roof though.
The T6 is a very rare car indeed, even more so than the V8, and there is a Polestar map from the dealer that takes it up to 330 odd BHP. With the torque output from the turbocharger it's a quicker car than the V8. I test drove one last year, but it was only 3 years old and strong money with no wriggle room from the dealer. It sold quickly enough though.

Usget

5,426 posts

212 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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bigbadbikercats said:
Is this the motor which their (late lamented) Aussie V8 Supercar was based on?

That sounded fantastic, and distinctly different to the rest of the field (flat plane crank or just the V angle?) - much more of a European Thorobred rasp than a US bellow...
Your comment led me to Youtube where I found some absolutely incredible racing and also the most Australian post-race interview of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAFRS5r2g8E

"I just stuck it in first, gave it the jandal and fk yeah!!"

M666 EVO

1,124 posts

163 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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The Lancia Thema 8.32 had a Ferrari V8 and that was transversely mounted.

And if you can find one, it'll probably be about 8k.

I know which I would sooner have.

monzaxjr

549 posts

147 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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dme123 said:
I really want one of these, but they never show up for less than about £7k. If you think the one featured is overpriced though, check out this bad boy

https://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20...
Lovely car, silly price. Nice pic of the car wearing Hifly tyres ffs. Who buys a V8 and puts cheap stty tyres on it. People like this boil my piss.

BFleming

3,611 posts

144 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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monzaxjr said:
Who buys a V8 and puts cheap stty tyres on it.
The dealer who's trying to sell it.

PoopahScoopah

249 posts

126 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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I would occasionally look for these S80s on AT about a year ago when I was reminded of them, just to give me something to aim towards if I decided to save up for a new comfy saloon. At the time there was never more than 2 available and they were both around the £8k mark. I do agree that they are overpriced compared to the alternatives out there, but they are so niche that the kind of people who buy one are probably the people who REALLY want one. I guess a seller would probably have to wait a while for that right buyer even at half the price, so if they can get £8k from someone eventually, fair play to them.

As for the comment in the article about fuel consumption, errrr, anyway who has lived with any of the T5 or R variants of the many Volvos won't be expecting good fuel economy!

fph

63 posts

118 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Yamaha also designed transverse mounted V8 for the second generation Ford Taurus as a follow up to the V6 it designed for the first generation.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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PoopahScoopah said:
I would occasionally look for these S80s on AT about a year ago when I was reminded of them, just to give me something to aim towards if I decided to save up for a new comfy saloon. At the time there was never more than 2 available and they were both around the £8k mark. I do agree that they are overpriced compared to the alternatives out there, but they are so niche that the kind of people who buy one are probably the people who REALLY want one. I guess a seller would probably have to wait a while for that right buyer even at half the price, so if they can get £8k from someone eventually, fair play to them.

As for the comment in the article about fuel consumption, errrr, anyway who has lived with any of the T5 or R variants of the many Volvos won't be expecting good fuel economy!
The extra urban (or whatever the fk dawdling along at 55mph or even 70mph) fuel economy isn't bad, same as a T5 or T6, however around town it's in the low teens and substantially thirstier than a T5. About what you'd expect from a small-ish HPT engine working at low revs around town vs a large-ish NASP engine doing the same thing.

8V085

670 posts

78 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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culpz said:
BFleming said:
I wouldn't assume that; an ex-colleague ran a S80 D5 that loved brakes, one Geartronic gearbox and fuel (lots of it). I can't imagine the V8 will be easier in any of those categories.
That just one person's bad experience, though. Seeing how these V8 models are quire rare, it could be hard to say.

Brakes go without saying, as these are heavy cars. However, that all depends on how/what you're using it for. Geartronic do have their known issues. I'm not sure if this is the same gearbox though. V8 will be juicy compared to a diesel. However, again, it depends how it's being used and the D5 is still a high-powered diesel variant, so may not be as frugal as expected.
The V8 doesn't change much in terms of reliability since everything else is standard Ford quality of that era. And it's the everything else that is problematic. The engine is bulletproof - luckily by the time the S80 came out they'd managed to fix the balancing shaft bearing issue that troubled these engines when they originally launched in XC90. The gearbox isn't. Avoid cars with Four-C, the difference in ride quality isn't that great, same as the longevity of shocks. A/C compressors go regularly.

The car isn't very premium in feel but to make up for it you pay premium prices at main dealers. For some reason Volvo likes to charge ridiculous prices for servicing, comparing with BMW's and Mercedes' of the same vintage.

Fuel mileage, 13mpg in London (if driven carefully), 28 mpg on a long motorway run.

Seats are nice though.

I'd pay 8-9k for a late one (09+) with low mileage with FMDSH and no issues, just because they sound incredible. I did miss mine when I sold it.

Those saying T6 is as good/exclusive/whatever need to try/hear the V8. The thing is in a league of its own.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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8V085 said:
The V8 doesn't change much in terms of reliability since everything else is standard Ford quality of that era. And it's the everything else that is problematic. The engine is bulletproof - luckily by the time the S80 came out they'd managed to fix the balancing shaft bearing issue that troubled these engines when they originally launched in XC90. The gearbox isn't. Avoid cars with Four-C, the difference in ride quality isn't that great, same as the longevity of shocks. A/C compressors go regularly.

The car isn't very premium in feel but to make up for it you pay premium prices at main dealers. For some reason Volvo likes to charge ridiculous prices for servicing, comparing with BMW's and Mercedes' of the same vintage.

Fuel mileage, 13mpg in London (if driven carefully), 28 mpg on a long motorway run.

Seats are nice though.

I'd pay 8-9k for a late one (09+) with low mileage with FMDSH and no issues, just because they sound incredible. I did miss mine when I sold it.

Those saying T6 is as good/exclusive/whatever need to try/hear the V8. The thing is in a league of its own.
Absolutely echo these comments about quality of this era V70/S80. Too many little things that fk up and almost every single one of them has a FoMoCo stamp on it. Also agree about 4C, in no way is it worth the maintenance costs and the thing will need new dampers at 90k because FoMoCo.

I found the interior of the pre-facelift to be very nice, higher quality leather and materials than an E60 BMW or W211 Merc but they drive more like a Mondeo Ghia than like a proper premium car. Late models with the twin turbo D5 look like a bargain right now if you want to buy a car and run it into the ground.

BeirutTaxi

6,631 posts

215 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Well kept E65 745i's are typically going for half the asking price of this...

E65Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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dme123 said:
Absolutely echo these comments about quality of this era V70/S80. Too many little things that fk up and almost every single one of them has a FoMoCo stamp on it. Also agree about 4C, in no way is it worth the maintenance costs and the thing will need new dampers at 90k because FoMoCo.

I found the interior of the pre-facelift to be very nice, higher quality leather and materials than an E60 BMW or W211 Merc but they drive more like a Mondeo Ghia than like a proper premium car. Late models with the twin turbo D5 look like a bargain right now if you want to buy a car and run it into the ground.
But this is not an E class or 5 series rival, it's an S class or 7 series rival. So you can't really compare their respective interiors. At this price, it'd be a very hard sell I think!

Alex P

180 posts

129 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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I have always liked these. On the 18 inch wheels of this car, they are subtly handsome cars. They do seem to be worth quite a lot considering their age, but the S60 and V70Rs also hold their money - there is a demand for used powerful petrol Volvos, possible more than there was when new.

As for reliability, the best place to look is somewhere like Swedespeed. There are many high mileage Volvos S80 V8s on there. Indeed, one guy (who owns a European car dealership) has over 300,000 miles on his.

Regarding the alternatives, big petrol Audis are famed for their running costs and the mid 2000s 7-series is well known for being wallet-wilting to run-just watch a Hoovies garage video! There Merc is interesting but the Lexus will almost certainly be the most reliable and the one I would choose other than the Volvo. As for the Cayenne, they have an infamous reputation for a reason!

Triumph Man

8,699 posts

169 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Amanitin said:
some brave soul should put this engine into the S90. Longitudinally with rwd and the zf8 inbetween. I will pick it up tomorrow thank you.
Ooo nice! They'd better make two!

8V085

670 posts

78 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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E65Ross said:
But this is not an E class or 5 series rival, it's an S class or 7 series rival. So you can't really compare their respective interiors. At this price, it'd be a very hard sell I think!
It was an E class/5 series competitor. Same as S90 is now.