RE: ?100K Escort RS2000!
Discussion
Plinth said:
s m said:
That RS2000 is an early one, not a T-reg - they had a Ford Oval on the boot by S reg not the lettering
Originally registered as PNO 672RChanged to PNO 641T (to appear as a younger car, no doubt...)
I think PNO plates were part of the Ford press fleet (could be wrong on that.....)
The Capri he had after sold for some PH-reader-enraging auction price a while back iirc
JMF894 said:
Sorry to be pedantic but this is disingenuous and hypocritical. Those 3 billion who have $1 a day to survive on will look at you and I with our mortgaged homes, 1 or 2 car garage, average income of £30k/year (60k if dualled) and a holiday abroad each year and consider us to be very rich/wasteful indeed.
It's all about perspective. If you're gonna put on the white hat make sure you look behind you as well as in front.........
+ healthcare, education, clean water, etcIt's all about perspective. If you're gonna put on the white hat make sure you look behind you as well as in front.........
World's been mad for years but seems to be getting worse in this regard. Crazy to think how primitive everything was even 150yrs ago. Less even.
Nice old ford's but at those prices.. I'm oot. Not that I was ever in. Wonder what my old '74 triumph 1850 would be worth these days. I scrapped it for £15 in 1999.
I think the old Escorts have an image that is second to none, they mean so many things to so many people.
Rallying success at the time got young lads to want one and stick Cibie Oscars and Forest arches on, now those chaps are getting older they have money and want one again, or they missed out first time round, younger lads are getting in on the act as well.
This is true of many classic cars, but the Escort is the perfect storm, it was accessible at the time so a big pool of nostalgia, it was all pervasive (Scalextrix models, rallying, rallycross, lots on the road), they looked so right and drove well.
I do like them but my issue is I will never have one, even if I had the money they have long since transcended their actual worth to me, there are a million cars at 100k, or even 20k I would buy before an Escort.
I bought a MK1 Audi TT for 2 grand, loads about now, but will dissapear, I think they will rise in value, not why I bought it, that was as I didnt have a larger budget and had always fancied one, and I hear the scoffing, but go back to 1990 and try telling anyone that in 2017 MK2 Escorts will be worth 20, 30, 100k.
We love to get nostalgic, anything currently familiar is treated with disdain as we feel we can always lay our hands on one and they are cheap, but go and try and get that decent MK1 MX5 you always fancied, loads about for 1500 or less, yeah, there were but they aint about now !
I worked for a dealer in 1988 and dropped an Escort MK2 PX at our workshop, it looked half decent but got told it wasnt worth repairing, bit of rust, needed a few bits of welding and wasnt worth the effort, choice was the auction but that was further away so dropped it at the scrappers.
Rallying success at the time got young lads to want one and stick Cibie Oscars and Forest arches on, now those chaps are getting older they have money and want one again, or they missed out first time round, younger lads are getting in on the act as well.
This is true of many classic cars, but the Escort is the perfect storm, it was accessible at the time so a big pool of nostalgia, it was all pervasive (Scalextrix models, rallying, rallycross, lots on the road), they looked so right and drove well.
I do like them but my issue is I will never have one, even if I had the money they have long since transcended their actual worth to me, there are a million cars at 100k, or even 20k I would buy before an Escort.
I bought a MK1 Audi TT for 2 grand, loads about now, but will dissapear, I think they will rise in value, not why I bought it, that was as I didnt have a larger budget and had always fancied one, and I hear the scoffing, but go back to 1990 and try telling anyone that in 2017 MK2 Escorts will be worth 20, 30, 100k.
We love to get nostalgic, anything currently familiar is treated with disdain as we feel we can always lay our hands on one and they are cheap, but go and try and get that decent MK1 MX5 you always fancied, loads about for 1500 or less, yeah, there were but they aint about now !
I worked for a dealer in 1988 and dropped an Escort MK2 PX at our workshop, it looked half decent but got told it wasnt worth repairing, bit of rust, needed a few bits of welding and wasnt worth the effort, choice was the auction but that was further away so dropped it at the scrappers.
s m said:
Plinth said:
s m said:
That RS2000 is an early one, not a T-reg - they had a Ford Oval on the boot by S reg not the lettering
Originally registered as PNO 672RChanged to PNO 641T (to appear as a younger car, no doubt...)
I think PNO plates were part of the Ford press fleet (could be wrong on that.....)
The Capri he had after sold for some PH-reader-enraging auction price a while back iirc
blade7 said:
s m said:
anonymous said:
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Somehow I doubt you'll be seeing this one in the article on the road....unless it's on the way to be MOT'd
.Chacun a son gout Rodders ( as Delboy would say )
generationx said:
The Professionals Escort had a tilt/slide sunroof too, definitely never available on a Mk2. It was stolen from the set, never to be seen again. Or so the legend goes.
I saw an RS2 with an electric steel sliding sunroof roof a long time ago, but it was the only one I remember. I read something about them using 2.0S Capris for some of the filming, and the fishnet headrests coming and going depending on the shot. I expect there was more than one RS2000 too. s m said:
Rather have something like E30M3Marks
I think his M3 has had a fair amount of money spent on it....The E30 M3 would be way higher on my weekend car list than a standard RS2000. Mind you an original X-Pack RS2 with all the RS catalogue thrown at it may find a space in my 20 car lotto garage, along with similar spec X-Pack 3.0S and a modified Moonstone RS500 
.blade7 said:
s m said:
Rather have something like E30M3Marks
I think his M3 has had a fair amount of money spent on it....The E30 M3 would be way higher on my weekend car list than a standard RS2000. Mind you an original X-Pack RS2 with all the RS catalogue thrown at it may find a space in my 20 car lotto garage, along with similar spec X-Pack 3.0S and a modified Moonstone RS500 .There’s a certain period in your life, when things really sink into your subconscious, it seems to stop in your early 20’s? Do you agree?
I’m at an age where I really wanted a sporting Mk1 Mexico or RS, but couldn’t afford one. I did have a Cortina 1600E, which was also a car to be seen in, but the real want was a Mk2 Cortina Savage, but I didn’t have enough money to run a V6, but in hindsight the E only did about 20 to the gallon anyway Ha!
It’s that feeling that determines what a car is worth to you!
That’s why I’ve sold my 964 turbo 3.6, and my Sagaris, but kept my Mk1 RS2000 and Mk2 Cortina Savage!
But, I expect the OP RS has been bought for investment purposes only.
I’m at an age where I really wanted a sporting Mk1 Mexico or RS, but couldn’t afford one. I did have a Cortina 1600E, which was also a car to be seen in, but the real want was a Mk2 Cortina Savage, but I didn’t have enough money to run a V6, but in hindsight the E only did about 20 to the gallon anyway Ha!
It’s that feeling that determines what a car is worth to you!
That’s why I’ve sold my 964 turbo 3.6, and my Sagaris, but kept my Mk1 RS2000 and Mk2 Cortina Savage!
But, I expect the OP RS has been bought for investment purposes only.
Robert W said:
It's the £109,950 being asked by Tom Hartley for a 40,000 mile Lamborghini Jalpa that I find incredible. Who would think that was money well spent? Over a hundred grand. A mint and boxed RS2000 by comparison seems a great buy!
I always imagine obscure, forgotten Italian stuff like that to be a badly made, unreliable fluid leaking liability. A mint 10 year old Gallardo seems a rather better idea.You're all thinking on a driving basis. This isn't a car anymore, it's like a stock, or artwork. It's only purpose is to earn money, and look nice. None of us have the money to imagine spending £100k on something we won't use, but whoever buys these things don't even see it as pocket change. From a driving standpoint, obviously there's an ocean of better cars, even better Fords, but as an investment/eye piece, it's just about perfect for whoever has that kind of money to buy it. Just like the £109k Jalpa, it'll probably earn a nice amount of profit one day, that too isn't a car anymore. I'm sure the buyer would laugh at the idea of owning a 10 year old Gallardo instead, they probably have a heap of new and old supercars anyway. The closest these kinds of cars will ever get to being cars again is being started up at car shows.
aaron_2000 said:
You're all thinking on a driving basis. This isn't a car anymore, it's like a stock, or artwork. It's only purpose is to earn money, and look nice. None of us have the money to imagine spending £100k on something we won't use, but whoever buys these things don't even see it as pocket change.
If you had mega money wouldn't it be perfect to trailer it to the biggest show of the year, and then do a series of donuts and burnouts 
.blade7 said:
turbospud said:
for those that wernt there at the time,the mk2 rs2000 was the most affordable,fastest,best handling cross country car available.
nothing could look at them,proper drivers car and when a few mods were thrown in up a league again,the modern versions in the right hands will embarrass most supercars
I was there and my experience of owning several of both is a 3.0 S Capri was a match for an RS2000.nothing could look at them,proper drivers car and when a few mods were thrown in up a league again,the modern versions in the right hands will embarrass most supercars
aaron_2000 said:
You're all thinking on a driving basis. This isn't a car anymore, it's like a stock, or artwork. It's only purpose is to earn money, and look nice. None of us have the money to imagine spending £100k on something we won't use, but whoever buys these things don't even see it as pocket change. From a driving standpoint, obviously there's an ocean of better cars, even better Fords, but as an investment/eye piece, it's just about perfect for whoever has that kind of money to buy it. Just like the £109k Jalpa, it'll probably earn a nice amount of profit one day, that too isn't a car anymore. I'm sure the buyer would laugh at the idea of owning a 10 year old Gallardo instead, they probably have a heap of new and old supercars anyway. The closest these kinds of cars will ever get to being cars again is being started up at car shows.
Rare cars just another asset class driven by low intetest rates shocker...s m said:
blade7 said:
s m said:
Rather have something like E30M3Marks
I think his M3 has had a fair amount of money spent on it....The E30 M3 would be way higher on my weekend car list than a standard RS2000. Mind you an original X-Pack RS2 with all the RS catalogue thrown at it may find a space in my 20 car lotto garage, along with similar spec X-Pack 3.0S and a modified Moonstone RS500 .Cheapest E30 M3 recently was about £35k. You get quite an Escort for that.
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