Tesla Roadster: Tesla unveils 'fastest production car ever'

Tesla Roadster: Tesla unveils 'fastest production car ever'

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cobra kid

4,946 posts

240 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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"A hardcore smackdown"

F*ck off.....

DonkeyApple

55,291 posts

169 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Blaster72 said:
It looks quite good, I'm still waiting for a motorcyclist to come along and tell us his superbike has the same performance for a 20th of the price.
True but who wants to smoke rollies, spend their life climbing in and out of a gimp suit and marry a fat bird who looks like Rose West? It's better to pay 20 times more and get the car really. smile

Re the batteries, I think they have increased the density of them a lot in recent years by switching from small metal cells to plastic pouches but that's still a lot of weight. The huge headline range is really a function of needing that many batteries in order to deliver the performance for a usable period of time.

The question I have for EVs is as batteries advance and you wish to fit the newer batteries into existing cars how does this impact on the weight distribution? Not so important for commuter barges but mist be slightly relevant for the sports cars. For example, if you fitted modern battery cells to an original Tesla do you not risk changing the weight distribution completely?

98elise

26,601 posts

161 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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600 mile range
0-60 in 1.9 seconds
10000 nm torque (fking hell!!!!)

The truck presentation was pretty good 0-60 in 5 seconds and I'm pretty sure he said it will do 1m miles without breaking down.

DonkeyApple

55,291 posts

169 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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robemcdonald said:
Fantastic thing for sure, but will it ever get made? Or imported to the UK? In RHD?
I have been eyeing up a model 3 as my next car, but no longer have confidence it will be available in here by 2020 let alone the 2018 originally promised.
All these new launches are impressive, but surely TESLA would be better resolving one problem at the time and not making more.
I genuinely would like to be proved wrong.
It's how showmen work. The purpose of this product is mainly to get everyone in the audience to look somewhere else. Tesla also completely understand the importance of halo products for imprinting the brand. Without that the investor appetite begins to wane and if the share price slips too far to the point that it changes sentiment then it's all over for the company in a matter of days before they've secured the real revenues from the sale of the 3. It's a very smart company who understand how the game is played and why to date investors have been willing to invest so heavily.

RumbleOfThunder

3,557 posts

203 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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This is the ICE's true death knell. Even it's top speed is insane, something EV's could never manage before.

Monkeylegend

26,389 posts

231 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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98elise said:
600 mile range
0-60 in 1.9 seconds
10000 nm torque (fking hell!!!!)

The truck presentation was pretty good 0-60 in 5 seconds and I'm pretty sure he said it will do 1m miles without breaking down.
The truck will do 0-60 in 20 secs fully loaded, which is pretty impressive, and the battery pack alone will cost $200k compared to $120k for a complete diesel truck in the States.

According to the BBC website.

RumbleOfThunder

3,557 posts

203 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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The Vambo said:
This will be useless as I commute from Glasgow to Mogadishu twice a week nonstop and live on a Lighthouse with no charging charging point.
Yep this will be the response laugh. Also a thousand replies to come about "soul" and "engagement". Yeah those things are nice but when your ICE is twice the price and gets utterly destroyed, its a tough pill for people to swallow.

DonkeyApple

55,291 posts

169 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Monkeylegend said:
The truck will do 0-60 in 20 secs fully loaded, which is pretty impressive, and the battery pack alone will cost $200k compared to $120k for a complete diesel truck in the States.

According to the BBC website.
Those packs will have to be rented you'd think. But as more cities insist on EVs then logistics firms will have to raise the money to buy EV lorries. But would you buy from Mercedes with their better service network and cheaper batteries from a more reliable source or take a huge, leveraged business punt on Tesla?

buggalugs

9,243 posts

237 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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jkh112

22,012 posts

158 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
The question I have for EVs is as batteries advance and you wish to fit the newer batteries into existing cars how does this impact on the weight distribution? Not so important for commuter barges but mist be slightly relevant for the sports cars. For example, if you fitted modern battery cells to an original Tesla do you not risk changing the weight distribution completely?
It might impact weight distribution in the original Tesla roadster because that was a modified Lotus and so the batteries were not necessarily in the optimal position.
The new generation Teslas (and I presume this includes the new roadster) have the batteries in the floor between the axles. If these battery packs ever get updated then it would seemingly be relatively easy to keep the centre of mass in the same place and have either less weight with the same capacity or the same weight and an increased capacity.

durbster

10,270 posts

222 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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I'm reserving judgement on all these stats until these things are on the road for real. How many car manufacturers have announced a supercar with absurd figures, only for it never to be heard of again?

Tesla are really shaking up the market though aren't they. It's brilliant to see and can only be a good thing for all of us.

Gary29

4,159 posts

99 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Standing quarter in under 9 seconds in the hands of a fat uncoordinated American (or Brit et al) what could possibly go wrong?

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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durbster said:
I'm reserving judgement on all these stats until these things are on the road for real. How many car manufacturers have announced a supercar with absurd figures, only for it never to be heard of again?

Tesla are really shaking up the market though aren't they. It's brilliant to see and can only be a good thing for all of us.
Tesla's performance claims have never failed to be met as far as I know.

The hypercar market is saturated with optimists, but for once Tesla might be one that delivers.

Evanivitch

20,077 posts

122 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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durbster

10,270 posts

222 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Btw, how come lorries don't use a diesel generator running at a constant rpm tied to electric motors for drive, like a diesel-electric train?

Does the additional weight offset the efficiency gains?

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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robemcdonald said:
Fantastic thing for sure, but will it ever get made? Or imported to the UK? In RHD?
I have been eyeing up a model 3 as my next car, but no longer have confidence it will be available in here by 2020 let alone the 2018 originally promised.
All these new launches are impressive, but surely TESLA would be better resolving one problem at the time and not making more.
I genuinely would like to be proved wrong.
This. He seems to be getting sidelined with stuff like this and that electric truck.
This car isn't for the masses and has the same relevance to me and to 99.9999% of the population as any other pointless hypercar from both a pointlessness and an affordability point of view.

Stuff like the Model 3 is where he will or will not crack the market but his production figures are woeful. This is what I want to see on the road - get those cars on the road that can be seen and the loopy halo hypercars can come later.

RumbleOfThunder

3,557 posts

203 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Will be nice to know how much it weighs for the twisty stuff.

David87

6,658 posts

212 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Absolutely insane! laugh

However, seeing as they're having a bit of trouble making Model 3s, I won't expect to see the Roadster or Semi on the road for about 15 years. wink

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Assuming it's using the same cells as the other Teslas, the battery alone is going to weigh about a tonne. So realistically the car is going to be two... to record those figures it's going to need, what, 1500bhp plus?

robemcdonald

8,787 posts

196 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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They will sell these as fast as they can make them. So two a year with deliveries starting in 2035.