Tesla Roadster: Tesla unveils 'fastest production car ever'

[TurbosSuck]

Very impressive performance!

What are they making those batteries out of? Are they litium based? Just wondering how they would fair in a crash...

[DonkeyApple]

8V085 said:

DonkeyApple said:

But TSLA ... to TSLA's gigafactory before TSLA manage to secure ... the real weakness of TSLA is ... to buy TSLA's batteries.

Could we just call it Tesla please, without all the Wall Street speak?

Why? Why the need to control how a company is written?

We're talking about the stock as much as the company in this thread and it certainly adds clarity.

[8V085]

DonkeyApple said:

8V085 said:

DonkeyApple said:

But TSLA ... to TSLA's gigafactory before TSLA manage to secure ... the real weakness of TSLA is ... to buy TSLA's batteries.

Could we just call it Tesla please, without all the Wall Street speak?

Why? Why the need to control how a company is written?

We're talking about the stock as much as the company in this thread and it certainly adds clarity.

It adds nothing other than a certain sense of smugness typical of hipsters who like to throw in some of the 1337 speak terms to show how much in the know they are.

Sent from my AAPL computer running MSFT Windows. After all YOLO.

[Too Drunk to Funk]

TurbosSuck said:

Very impressive performance!

What are they making those batteries out of? Are they litium based? Just wondering how they would fair in a crash...

Tesla's Electric Cars aren't as Green as you might think.


www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas-electric-cars-might-n...


Electric Car growth sparks environmental concerns.


www.ft.com/content/8342ec6c-5fde-11e7-91a7-502f7ee...

[DapperDanMan]

Too Drunk to Funk said:

TurbosSuck said:

Very impressive performance!

What are they making those batteries out of? Are they litium based? Just wondering how they would fair in a crash...

Tesla's Electric Cars aren't as Green as you might think.


www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas-electric-cars-might-n...


Electric Car growth sparks environmental concerns.


www.ft.com/content/8342ec6c-5fde-11e7-91a7-502f7ee...

Keep up at the back. Both of those have been debunked.

[DonkeyApple]

8V085 said:

DonkeyApple said:

8V085 said:

DonkeyApple said:

But TSLA ... to TSLA's gigafactory before TSLA manage to secure ... the real weakness of TSLA is ... to buy TSLA's batteries.

Could we just call it Tesla please, without all the Wall Street speak?

Why? Why the need to control how a company is written?

We're talking about the stock as much as the company in this thread and it certainly adds clarity.

It adds nothing other than a certain sense of smugness typical of hipsters who like to throw in some of the 1337 speak terms to show how much in the know they are.

Sent from my AAPL computer running MSFT Windows. After all YOLO.

No it doesn't. And no we shouldn't dumb down.

Smugness? Hipsters? Fool.

When talking about a company it's perfectly common practice to refer to the ticker. It would make sense to use the ticker when talking about the product. It's in fact a useful differentiator.

[8V085]

DonkeyApple said:

When talking about a company it's perfectly common practice to refer to the ticker. It would make sense to use the ticker when talking about the product. It's in fact a useful differentiator.

All above is true only if you're one of these guys.



Outside of these situations calling Tesla TSLA is unnecessary. It's like calling water H2O e.g. I had some Perrier H2O for dinner yesterday. Or shall I say I had some LPE:EN H2O for dinner yesterday. Fool.

[DonkeyApple]

Of course it is.

[DonkeyApple]

DapperDanMan said:

Too Drunk to Funk said:

TurbosSuck said:

Very impressive performance!

What are they making those batteries out of? Are they litium based? Just wondering how they would fair in a crash...

Tesla's Electric Cars aren't as Green as you might think.


www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas-electric-cars-might-n...


Electric Car growth sparks environmental concerns.


www.ft.com/content/8342ec6c-5fde-11e7-91a7-502f7ee...

Keep up at the back. Both of those have been debunked.

Besides, shifting pollution out of the urban environment to the non urban power stations where the tiny and sparse local populations already have 6 fingers and webbed toes due to inbreeding is infinitely the lesser of two evils.

And the massive increase in demand for the rare earth raw materials doesn't harm anyone in the West just poisons and kills the third world slave labourers who collect the ore and the slave labourers in China who process it and make the batteries. And if it was really that important then we'd throw them some charity via TV commercials like we do with old donkeys and other much more important creatures.

[otolith]

And of course, the petroleum industry is well known for its impeccable conduct in areas of human rights and environmental responsibility, which is why there is absolutely no humbug in picking up on issues in the battery supply chain.

[DapperDanMan]

DonkeyApple said:

DapperDanMan said:

Too Drunk to Funk said:

TurbosSuck said:

Very impressive performance!

What are they making those batteries out of? Are they litium based? Just wondering how they would fair in a crash...

Tesla's Electric Cars aren't as Green as you might think.


www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas-electric-cars-might-n...


Electric Car growth sparks environmental concerns.


www.ft.com/content/8342ec6c-5fde-11e7-91a7-502f7ee...

Keep up at the back. Both of those have been debunked.

Besides, shifting pollution out of the urban environment to the non urban power stations where the tiny and sparse local populations already have 6 fingers and webbed toes due to inbreeding is infinitely the lesser of two evils.

And the massive increase in demand for the rare earth raw materials doesn't harm anyone in the West just poisons and kills the third world slave labourers who collect the ore and the slave labourers in China who process it and make the batteries. And if it was really that important then we'd throw them some charity via TV commercials like we do with old donkeys and other much more important creatures.

Cling on to whatever bullst you like it makes no odds.

I assume you protest against the sweat shops in Bangladesh, Vietnam etc. for all the cheap clothes then.

The EV is under the same attacks as Climate Change and it is funded at root by the same people. Make crap up and throw it to the hard of brain on the internet and sow confusion. Can't beat it on being cleaner then lets talk about the components - of course no one mentions the utter crap fest that fossil fuels are to extract though do they.

Talking about an EV that can do 0-60 in 1.9secs and has 10,000NM of torque is pretty pointless on PH of course if it was petrol powered then we would have people fawning all over it. The problem with a TESLA to some 'petrolhead' types is that an ordinary looking large hatchback can blow their ... (fill in the blanks with whatever passed as fast a few years back) into the weeds. The traffic light grand prix is over isn't it and with the potential for the Roadster it is game over.

[DonkeyApple]

DapperDanMan said:

DonkeyApple said:

DapperDanMan said:

Too Drunk to Funk said:

TurbosSuck said:

Very impressive performance!

What are they making those batteries out of? Are they litium based? Just wondering how they would fair in a crash...

Tesla's Electric Cars aren't as Green as you might think.


www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas-electric-cars-might-n...


Electric Car growth sparks environmental concerns.


www.ft.com/content/8342ec6c-5fde-11e7-91a7-502f7ee...

Keep up at the back. Both of those have been debunked.

Besides, shifting pollution out of the urban environment to the non urban power stations where the tiny and sparse local populations already have 6 fingers and webbed toes due to inbreeding is infinitely the lesser of two evils.

And the massive increase in demand for the rare earth raw materials doesn't harm anyone in the West just poisons and kills the third world slave labourers who collect the ore and the slave labourers in China who process it and make the batteries. And if it was really that important then we'd throw them some charity via TV commercials like we do with old donkeys and other much more important creatures.

Cling on to whatever bullst you like it makes no odds.

I assume you protest against the sweat shops in Bangladesh, Vietnam etc. for all the cheap clothes then.

The EV is under the same attacks as Climate Change and it is funded at root by the same people. Make crap up and throw it to the hard of brain on the internet and sow confusion. Can't beat it on being cleaner then lets talk about the components - of course no one mentions the utter crap fest that fossil fuels are to extract though do they.

Talking about an EV that can do 0-60 in 1.9secs and has 10,000NM of torque is pretty pointless on PH of course if it was petrol powered then we would have people fawning all over it. The problem with a TESLA to some 'petrolhead' types is that an ordinary looking large hatchback can blow their ... (fill in the blanks with whatever passed as fast a few years back) into the weeds. The traffic light grand prix is over isn't it and with the potential for the Roadster it is game over.

Sorry, just for clarity, are you one of the angry, over emotional, mentalists who is pro EV or anti EV?

[Stu08]

DapperDanMan said:

The problem with a TESLA to some 'petrolhead' types is that an ordinary looking large hatchback can blow their ... (fill in the blanks with whatever passed as fast a few years back) into the weeds. The traffic light grand prix is over isn't it and with the potential for the Roadster it is game over.

Two slight issues:

1) Driving a car is not just about 0-60 bragging rights.

2) Tesla fans love to go on about how fast the Tesla is over 1/4 mile. There are some videos online of cars racing Tesla's past the 1/4 mile mark. The Tesla loses.

Now of course the response will be........but but but how often do we race beyond 1/4 mile distances. It's a very good point. However, this cannot be used as an argument against Tesla losing - as everyone seems to go on about how they're a game changer in performance.

Yes - over a certain distance. But that's not the whole story.

[otolith]

The 1/4 mile drag race is a cornerstone of American automotive culture. It's not been picked to advantage EVs, it's just their standard benchmark.

[DapperDanMan]

DonkeyApple said:

DapperDanMan said:

DonkeyApple said:

DapperDanMan said:

Too Drunk to Funk said:

TurbosSuck said:

Very impressive performance!

What are they making those batteries out of? Are they litium based? Just wondering how they would fair in a crash...

Tesla's Electric Cars aren't as Green as you might think.


www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas-electric-cars-might-n...


Electric Car growth sparks environmental concerns.


www.ft.com/content/8342ec6c-5fde-11e7-91a7-502f7ee...

Keep up at the back. Both of those have been debunked.

Besides, shifting pollution out of the urban environment to the non urban power stations where the tiny and sparse local populations already have 6 fingers and webbed toes due to inbreeding is infinitely the lesser of two evils.

And the massive increase in demand for the rare earth raw materials doesn't harm anyone in the West just poisons and kills the third world slave labourers who collect the ore and the slave labourers in China who process it and make the batteries. And if it was really that important then we'd throw them some charity via TV commercials like we do with old donkeys and other much more important creatures.

Cling on to whatever bullst you like it makes no odds.

I assume you protest against the sweat shops in Bangladesh, Vietnam etc. for all the cheap clothes then.

The EV is under the same attacks as Climate Change and it is funded at root by the same people. Make crap up and throw it to the hard of brain on the internet and sow confusion. Can't beat it on being cleaner then lets talk about the components - of course no one mentions the utter crap fest that fossil fuels are to extract though do they.

Talking about an EV that can do 0-60 in 1.9secs and has 10,000NM of torque is pretty pointless on PH of course if it was petrol powered then we would have people fawning all over it. The problem with a TESLA to some 'petrolhead' types is that an ordinary looking large hatchback can blow their ... (fill in the blanks with whatever passed as fast a few years back) into the weeds. The traffic light grand prix is over isn't it and with the potential for the Roadster it is game over.

Sorry, just for clarity, are you one of the angry, over emotional, mentalists who is pro EV or anti EV?

I am pro progress.

EV will become the dominant mode of motive power for transport (note the term EV not BEV) because it is just better than ICE alone.

[DonkeyApple]

DapperDanMan said:

I am pro progress.

EV will become the dominant mode of motive power for transport (note the term EV not BEV) because it is just better than ICE alone.

So why get stty with me then? I've made it pretty clear that I'm pro EV but what I am not is evangelical about it or blinded to the very obvious costs to smaller sections of society.

This discussion isn't some base football twittery. You'll notice that the sane side of the pro EV argument openly recognises the downsides and can discuss them without collapsing into offensive, council style hysteria.

[humblesabot]

Pretty impressive the amount of space they've managed to eke out of the passenger compartment considering the power density and 200kwh battery pack that weighs about the same as the Dallara that was also launched this week.

unpopular opinion: I like the wheel and the minimalist information display method. I feel like the Model 3 would have gone over better for a lot of people if they'd done the same sort of minimalist display in the slot of the HVAC vent in the dash.

[RobDown]

It can do 0-60 in 1 second flat - I still won’t buy one

I’ll happily have an EV for a daily Driver. But for weekend fun the car needs to a)look good b) be fast and c)sound right

A Tesla just isn’t going to cut it

[Evanivitch]

8V085 said:

DonkeyApple said:

8V085 said:

DonkeyApple said:

But TSLA ... to TSLA's gigafactory before TSLA manage to secure ... the real weakness of TSLA is ... to buy TSLA's batteries.

Could we just call it Tesla please, without all the Wall Street speak?

Why? Why the need to control how a company is written?

We're talking about the stock as much as the company in this thread and it certainly adds clarity.

It adds nothing other than a certain sense of smugness typical of hipsters who like to throw in some of the 1337 speak terms to show how much in the know they are.

Sent from my AAPL computer running MSFT Windows. After all YOLO.

Do you and Rovinghawk have an inferiority complex about acronyms? Do you have embarrassing initials or something?

[AnotherClarkey]

otolith said:

The 1/4 mile drag race is a cornerstone of American automotive culture. It's not been picked to advantage EVs, it's just their standard benchmark.

Indeed - some people even live their entire lives a quarter mile at a time.......................