RE: Tesla Roadster: 'Quickest car in the world'

RE: Tesla Roadster: 'Quickest car in the world'

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Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Love how everyone's talking as though this car is actually real.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Cold said:
Love how everyone's talking as though this car is actually real.
Yeah all those rides around the loop at the launch event it looked cgi

craste

1,222 posts

207 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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At the current rate of progress it won’t be long before battery powered cars will charge up in a relatively small amount of time and provide a great number of miles out of it.

Just think how in the future they will fine tune the delivery of power so that it drives more ‘fun’ like a normal petrol engined car.

I bet they will be able to have different settings so that it will either shoot off the line like a big remote control car, or increase power gradually like a good quality V8 or nothing then bam like a turbocharged Focus RS mk1.

Once this is done you could choose the type of engine/noise setting and be well happy!

I think it’s like you can spend thousands on analogue vintage hardware synths or a lot less on a quality VST which gives 99% of the sound, and to most ears it won’t be any different in music production.

Also fully autonomous cars could have the same kind of setting, for example : a granny setting which sets off and joins traffic like a gran or race setting where it really accelerates hard up to the legal limit and really pushes through the bends, all in total safety as it’s talking to the gran car in front or the other racer setting car about to pull out.

The car makers will want to make their electric cars fun so stuff like this will work, so rather than bash this new dawn of vehicle we should embrace it.



Edited by craste on Saturday 25th November 21:37

Smokey32

359 posts

93 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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I still don't see these magical batteries allowing quick recharge and great range.

They cant even put batteries in a bloody mobile phone to last.................

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
Forget the Turbo - what about a GT3? It's completely out of its depth and will surely get a good kicking.
The 911 GT3 is claimed to be able to accelerate from 0-60 mph (97 km/h) in 3.1 seconds or less, and the quarter mile in 11.2 seconds at 126 mph (203 km/h).[30][31] The GT3 has a claimed top speed of 202 mph (325 km/h). The lap time on the Nürburgring Nordschleife is 7 minutes and 25 seconds.[32]

Yeah well out of its depth... Though I doubt the roadster is track focused at all, so again somewhat unfair comparison.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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janesmith1950 said:
There is no rule that says a business must fail because in any given period it didn't turn a profit.
No one has said there is. Running out of cash however is never a good look.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Smokey32 said:
I still don't see these magical batteries allowing quick recharge and great range.

They cant even put batteries in a bloody mobile phone to last.................
You realise these are not phone batteries? And theres a 300,000km model S (used as a taxi, fast charged a lot) with a near perfect battery he's happy will get him to 1,000,000kms... How often do you get to a million kilometres in your car?

Some Evs have poorer batter life management, like the (early) leafs but teslas are well engineered.

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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RobDickinson said:
Yeah all those rides around the loop at the launch event it looked cgi
A solitary lashed up prototype does not a homologated production run make. Vapourware.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Cold said:
RobDickinson said:
Yeah all those rides around the loop at the launch event it looked cgi
A solitary lashed up prototype does not a homologated production run make. Vapourware.
Yes its a prototype. How many other launch events for a future car do people get actual rides in the prototype? Sure it might not ever be built as a production car, wait people are ordering it and so far telsa have delivered everything they have promised (sometimes late.. but still)

rodericb

6,743 posts

126 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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craste said:
At the current rate of progress it won’t be long before battery powered cars will charge up in a relatively small amount of time and provide a great number of miles out of it.

Just think how in the future they will fine tune the delivery of power so that it drives more ‘fun’ like a normal petrol engined car.

I bet they will be able to have different settings so that it will either shoot off the line like a big remote control car, or increase power gradually like a good quality V8 or nothing then bam like a turbocharged Focus RS mk1.

Once this is done you could choose the type of engine/noise setting and be well happy!

I think it’s like you can spend thousands on analogue vintage hardware synths or a lot less on a quality VST which gives 99% of the sound, and to most ears it won’t be any different in music production.

Also fully autonomous cars could have the same kind of setting, for example : a granny setting which sets off and joins traffic like a gran or race setting where it really accelerates hard up to the legal limit and really pushes through the bends, all in total safety as it’s talking to the gran car in front or the other racer setting car about to pull out.

The car makers will want to make their electric cars fun so stuff like this will work, so rather than bash this new dawn of vehicle we should embrace it.
Edited by craste on Saturday 25th November 21:37
Good points and the way things are progressing it looks like a good number of 'vehicle consumers' will simply go along with it as their level of involvement in the activity is low. You know you could get excellent samples of nearly every instrument known to man and run them through VST on your laptop computer but there are still the nutcases and luddites who insist on buying/owning/playing the actual instruments. The perverts even derive some sort of pleasure in coaxing out sounds from those instruments.

It's the same with cars. And horses. And coffee...

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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RobDickinson said:
Yes its a prototype. How many other launch events for a future car do people get actual rides in the prototype? Sure it might not ever be built as a production car, wait people are ordering it and so far telsa have delivered everything they have promised (sometimes late.. but still)
Yes, vapourware. This car doesn't exist, you can't buy one it's just a model. Vapourware. Stop being sucked in by the hype.

JoBlack

143 posts

80 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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RobDickinson said:
I don't see why it wouldn't be like a chiron / veyron. Similar performance weight and driver involvement I guess. Won't have the aural aspect but it's crazy zippy from stand still.
You are sniffing glue.

DeolTheBeast

449 posts

146 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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JoBlack said:
RobDickinson said:
I don't see why it wouldn't be like a chiron / veyron. Similar performance weight and driver involvement I guess. Won't have the aural aspect but it's crazy zippy from stand still.
You are sniffing glue.
Agree laugh

RumbleOfThunder

3,557 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Cold said:
RobDickinson said:
Yes its a prototype. How many other launch events for a future car do people get actual rides in the prototype? Sure it might not ever be built as a production car, wait people are ordering it and so far telsa have delivered everything they have promised (sometimes late.. but still)
Yes, vapourware. This car doesn't exist, you can't buy one it's just a model. Vapourware. Stop being sucked in by the hype.
Stop being a berk and pull your head out of the sand. Look at the car in the videos. They aren't "lashed together" by any measure. As already discussed, making low volume hypercars is relatively straight forward. Tesla have always delivered on their performance figures so there is no reason to suggest the Roadster won't be the same. Not wanting something to happen doesn't mean it won't happen, sorry. But hey, this thread will be here for posterity, so I guess we'll see who is right.

RumbleOfThunder

3,557 posts

203 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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DeolTheBeast said:
JoBlack said:
RobDickinson said:
I don't see why it wouldn't be like a chiron / veyron. Similar performance weight and driver involvement I guess. Won't have the aural aspect but it's crazy zippy from stand still.
You are sniffing glue.
Agree laugh
Ok then, pair of smartypants. Ask yourself this, will the Roadster and the Chiron be a similar weight? Will the weight be better distributed in the Roadster or the Chiron? Which will have the lower centre of gravity? I think the Roadster stands a better chance of having a more "involving" chassis than the Chiron, which then leaves the noise as the only other factor.

98elise

26,600 posts

161 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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RobDickinson said:
Cold said:
Love how everyone's talking as though this car is actually real.
Yeah all those rides around the loop at the launch event it looked cgi
Yup...the biggest surprise was that it was a functional car rather than a show concept (which are often little more than full size models kits).


98elise

26,600 posts

161 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Cold said:
RobDickinson said:
Yeah all those rides around the loop at the launch event it looked cgi
A solitary lashed up prototype does not a homologated production run make. Vapourware.
So you don't think he can bring a very expensive EV into production? Seems an odd statement to make.

ZesPak

24,430 posts

196 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Cold said:
This car doesn't exist, you can't buy one it's just a model.
These are two statements.

But only one of them is (vaguely) true.

And I think that, if you offer them Chiron money, they'll built you a second one tomorrow.

The car ran. Extreme accelleration runs all night. I don't think you know what a prototype is? Often these cars are some kit not designed to go over 50kph, not to mention pulling 0-100 the entire night.

AnotherClarkey

3,596 posts

189 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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The range of the Chiron is substantially less than half that of the Tesla.

8V085

670 posts

77 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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DeolTheBeast said:
JoBlack said:
RobDickinson said:
I don't see why it wouldn't be like a chiron / veyron. Similar performance weight and driver involvement I guess. Won't have the aural aspect but it's crazy zippy from stand still.
You are sniffing glue.
Agree laugh
Is Rob Dicky a paid shill or is he a charitable person I wonder.