Exhaust farty popping noises ?

[AC43]

gavsdavs said:

It's a pretty simple question.

Do you want your car to whose sound changes tone and volume as revs and throttle opening quantities vary, or do you want a car to sound like some sort of muffled whoopee cushion when you change gear.

This thread is highlighting where people stand quite nicely

LOL

[Ayahuasca]

I had the wadding taken out of the silencer in my old TVR Griffith 500. Being a five litre V8 it was rather loud anyway, but with the modification the volume control was turned up to 11. It was more ground-shaking rolling thunder than 'farty popping noises' even at very low speeds. Yes it made distant pedestrians look, but they generally smiled in approval.

[RBH58]

Big GT said:

If the Pops and bangs sound like gunfire on the overrun then all is well. Wets farts programmed in under load not so good.


Good - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj_pcXRx8Pw&t=...

Bad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x8xcUQlWNk

This it (Bad) - https://youtu.be/OPCkz8XYqMw

[AC43]

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gavsdavs said:

It's a pretty simple question.

Do you want a car to sound like some sort of muffled whoopee cushion when you change gear

Back in the mists of time cars ran on carbs and, in some cases, when set up with lots of overlap you'd get a variety of pops and bangs on a trailing throttle.

I'm thinking of Alfa and Fiat/Lancia twin cams here or Alfa flat fours. I once built an A series engine for a Mini with a fairly mental cam, an open Dellorto 40 an LCB and a Cooper back box and that made all manner of gargles, snuffling noises, pops and bangs.

However that was never on full throttle and going up through the gears. It had a biblical induction roar and a very loud and tuneful zorst but that's a different thing entirely. It was when backing off and on trailing throttle that it made the funny noises.

Another car that made funny noises on the overrun was the Morris Minor. When I say funny I mean not in a good way. It was a weird farty noise when the driver changed gear. Not too dissimilar to the noises that are now generated artificially.

I guess that wanting to make a £60k M4 sound like an electronic Morris Minor is just a matter of taste.

Edited by AC43 on Tuesday 21st November 11:47

[TheDrBrian]

RBH58 said:

Big GT said:

If the Pops and bangs sound like gunfire on the overrun then all is well. Wets farts programmed in under load not so good.


Good - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj_pcXRx8Pw&t=...

Bad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x8xcUQlWNk

This it (Bad) - https://youtu.be/OPCkz8XYqMw

It sounds so flat. So lame. Like a child blowing raspberries

[AW111]

Ayahuasca said:

I had the wadding taken out of the silencer in my old TVR Griffith 500. Being a five litre V8 it was rather loud anyway, but with the modification the volume control was turned up to 11. It was more ground-shaking rolling thunder than 'farty popping noises' even at very low speeds. Yes it made distant pedestrians look, but they generally smiled in approval.

Another anti-social prick.
If it sounds "like rolling thunder" even at low speeds, it's fking annoying to many people.
Ever wonder why noise regs get more stringent every year? Look in a mirror.

Yes, my car is modified, and quite loud at WOT above about 5000 rpm - mainly induction noise.
Yes it is very loud above 7000 rpm. The point is that when I drive it normally, eg around town, it's legal and doesn't create unnecessary aggravation.

[daemon]

Ari said:

Rawwr said:

daemon said:

Primarily :-

(a) if they're genuinely "upset" by a car making a noise as it passes, then they have the problem not me
(b) they really need to look at the real problems in this world and get upset at those.
(b) they need to get over themselves.

That sounds like quite a selfish position.

It is indeed.

"It's fine for me to annoy people provided there are people doing worse things".

An interesting viewpoint into the chav mentality though. They could (and presumably do) apply it to almost anything chav, dropping litter, playing unsociably loud music, queue jumping, not picking up their dog's st...

Edited by Ari on Monday 20th November 12:13

The car is as per it came from the factory.

If people are "outraged" or "annoyed" because it makes a sound they dont like when it passes them, then i stand by what i said - they need to get over themselves.

Loving how someone having a viewpoint you dont agree with makes them a "chav".

[rxe]

I'm working in Edinburgh at the moment and the place seems plagued by hatchbacks trying to sound like race cars as they pull away from the lights in a 20 limit. You do wonder what sort of electrobks is throwing fuel down the exhaust pipe at those sort of speeds - can't be doing the emissions much good.

Don't get me wrong, real pops and bangs (preferably accompanied by flames coming out of the exhaust) are a wonderful thing, but they only sound realistic when they are made by lumpy cams and big exhausts.

[andrewparker]

It's going to be miles better when cars make no noise at all...

[cerb4.5lee]

andrewparker said:

It's going to be miles better when cars make no noise at all...

[Ayahuasca]

AW111 said:

Ayahuasca said:

I had the wadding taken out of the silencer in my old TVR Griffith 500. Being a five litre V8 it was rather loud anyway, but with the modification the volume control was turned up to 11. It was more ground-shaking rolling thunder than 'farty popping noises' even at very low speeds. Yes it made distant pedestrians look, but they generally smiled in approval.

Another anti-social prick.
If it sounds "like rolling thunder" even at low speeds, it's fking annoying to many people.
Ever wonder why noise regs get more stringent every year? Look in a mirror.

Yes, my car is modified, and quite loud at WOT above about 5000 rpm - mainly induction noise.
Yes it is very loud above 7000 rpm. The point is that when I drive it normally, eg around town, it's legal and doesn't create unnecessary aggravation.

Interesting, in my years of ownership I never had anything but positive comments and thumbs up. Maybe there is a difference between rumbling old British cars which are supposed to be loud, and nasty small-engined rubbish with artificial tinny annoying noises,








like yours?

[AC43]

Ayahuasca said:

nasty small-engined rubbish with artificial tinny annoying noise

This thread is great :-)

[kayzee]

Tuvra said:

kayzee said:

You mean to someone that's into cars, and is successful enough to actually buy one?

Do you seriously think Audi consider what 57 year old's think when developing the RS3?

I bet the age of the average owner is 20 years younger!

No. I think they consider someone that's into cars, and is successful enough to actually buy one.

[J4CKO]

daemon said:

Ari said:

Rawwr said:

daemon said:

Primarily :-

(a) if they're genuinely "upset" by a car making a noise as it passes, then they have the problem not me
(b) they really need to look at the real problems in this world and get upset at those.
(b) they need to get over themselves.

That sounds like quite a selfish position.

It is indeed.

"It's fine for me to annoy people provided there are people doing worse things".

An interesting viewpoint into the chav mentality though. They could (and presumably do) apply it to almost anything chav, dropping litter, playing unsociably loud music, queue jumping, not picking up their dog's st...

Edited by Ari on Monday 20th November 12:13

The car is as per it came from the factory.

If people are "outraged" or "annoyed" because it makes a sound they dont like when it passes them, then i stand by what i said - they need to get over themselves.

Loving how someone having a viewpoint you dont agree with makes them a "chav".

Personally the noises dont bother me at all, what the thread was about was the fact that *some* owners of cars that do it seek to trigger the sound in places where it requires more speed than is appropriate which is what I was seeing the other day.

However, if that means I am boring and got "Pwned" whilst stood waiting for Halfords to finish ballsing up my stereo then so be it, the place was heaving with people and really the only way round is to trickle, not sure how fast you need to go to trigger the noise on an up shift but it is faster than is sane in that environment judging by all the folk that looked round, a bit shocked at the speed, particularly when the RS3 passed.

It looks like this has become a thing in town and city centres, perhaps part of the reason these kinds of cars are getting nicked as well ?

Its the new version of Nova with a fart cannon, but a lot lot faster, plus, you just know if there is an incident they will probably attempt to scuttle off to avoid any consequences.

[daemon]

J4CKO said:

Personally the noises dont bother me at all, what the thread was about was the fact that *some* owners of cars that do it seek to trigger the sound in places where it requires more speed than is appropriate which is what I was seeing the other day.

However, if that means I am boring and got "Pwned" whilst stood waiting for Halfords to finish ballsing up my stereo then so be it, the place was heaving with people and really the only way round is to trickle, not sure how fast you need to go to trigger the noise on an up shift but it is faster than is sane in that environment judging by all the folk that looked round, a bit shocked at the speed, particularly when the RS3 passed.

It looks like this has become a thing in town and city centres, perhaps part of the reason these kinds of cars are getting nicked as well ?

Its the new version of Nova with a fart cannon, but a lot lot faster, plus, you just know if there is an incident they will probably attempt to scuttle off to avoid any consequences.

I wholly agree. The sort of speed i'd need to be doing or the way i'd need to be driving to envoke it would be crazy around town.

The A45 doesnt bang and fart around town unless being driven wholly inappropriately which i dont do and would not advocate people doing.

However if it happens to bang when i'm overtaking some silly old bint doing 30MPH in a 60 and shes "outraged", frankly not one fk do i give, but apparently - and surprisingly on a motoring forum - to some by enjoying my car and actually driving it on occasionally doesnt mark me out as an enthusiast, it makes me a chav.

Edited by daemon on Tuesday 21st November 15:04

[J4CKO]

daemon said:

J4CKO said:

Personally the noises dont bother me at all, what the thread was about was the fact that *some* owners of cars that do it seek to trigger the sound in places where it requires more speed than is appropriate which is what I was seeing the other day.

However, if that means I am boring and got "Pwned" whilst stood waiting for Halfords to finish ballsing up my stereo then so be it, the place was heaving with people and really the only way round is to trickle, not sure how fast you need to go to trigger the noise on an up shift but it is faster than is sane in that environment judging by all the folk that looked round, a bit shocked at the speed, particularly when the RS3 passed.

It looks like this has become a thing in town and city centres, perhaps part of the reason these kinds of cars are getting nicked as well ?

Its the new version of Nova with a fart cannon, but a lot lot faster, plus, you just know if there is an incident they will probably attempt to scuttle off to avoid any consequences.

I wholly agree. The sort of speed i'd need to be doing or the way i'd need to be driving to envoke it would be crazy around town.

The A45 doesnt bang and fart around town unless being driven wholly inappropriately which i dont do and would not advocate people doing.

However if it happens to bang when i'm overtaking some silly old bint doing 30MPH in a 60 and shes "outraged", frankly not one fk do i give, but apparently - and surprisingly on a motoring forum - to some by enjoying my car and actually driving it on occasionally doesnt mark me out as an enthusiast, it makes me a chav.

Edited by daemon on Tuesday 21st November 15:04

Yeah, time and a place, quite entitled to overtake if its clear, people get weird about being overtaken, to the point they hog lane two on a dual carriageway, I an a dyed in the wool car enthusiast who likes noisy stuff, wish I wasn't but stuck with it so if I think something is anti social it is probably pretty bad

We have more of an insight knowing the background and car culture, sometimes non car people think something is going fast as it makes a noise, any noise but we can perhaps understand more, and the farts do tend to encourage more acceleration/speed than the situation calls for.


I am fully capable of being a nuisance myself but I do try to reign it in as offending someone a little, is a bit different to flattening them on the way out of TK Maxx !

[RumbleOfThunder]

daemon said:

J4CKO said:

Personally the noises dont bother me at all, what the thread was about was the fact that *some* owners of cars that do it seek to trigger the sound in places where it requires more speed than is appropriate which is what I was seeing the other day.

However, if that means I am boring and got "Pwned" whilst stood waiting for Halfords to finish ballsing up my stereo then so be it, the place was heaving with people and really the only way round is to trickle, not sure how fast you need to go to trigger the noise on an up shift but it is faster than is sane in that environment judging by all the folk that looked round, a bit shocked at the speed, particularly when the RS3 passed.

It looks like this has become a thing in town and city centres, perhaps part of the reason these kinds of cars are getting nicked as well ?

Its the new version of Nova with a fart cannon, but a lot lot faster, plus, you just know if there is an incident they will probably attempt to scuttle off to avoid any consequences.

I wholly agree. The sort of speed i'd need to be doing or the way i'd need to be driving to envoke it would be crazy around town.

The A45 doesnt bang and fart around town unless being driven wholly inappropriately which i dont do and would not advocate people doing.

However if it happens to bang when i'm overtaking some silly old bint doing 30MPH in a 60 and shes "outraged", frankly not one fk do i give, but apparently - and surprisingly on a motoring forum - to some by enjoying my car and actually driving it on occasionally doesnt mark me out as an enthusiast, it makes me a chav.

Edited by daemon on Tuesday 21st November 15:04

It's not your fault mate. It's Mercedes' for pandering to the thicko "pops and bangs must mean proper performance car" crowd. Or maybe they and VAG created it, which is even worse. I think the A45 is the perfect daily package if not for that.

[Jonno02]

To my ears though, pops and bangs (well...for me, more burbles) sound good. The DSG fart just doesn't. The absolute disdain for 4 pot cars on here; even of the 'performance' variety gives me a chuckle. It's like the old man sitting in his 15 year old slippers with a pipe, listening to poppy/scratchy vinyl because these new fangled speaker systems with all of their electronics fry your brain! You could put a 4 pot in these guys favourite car, make it sound absolutely identical to the v8 version and give it twice the BHP and they'd still dismiss it for being a st 4 pot.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Have we slated the jcw pro exhaust yet on the new Mini's. It maybe chavvy but I enjoy it so there

[daemon]

Just had a prime example of someone being "outraged" by our totally factory standard A45 going about its business....

Going from a 30mph zone to a 40mph zone and there was some old dose walking his dog along the footpath.

As i passed him doing a heady 37MPH in the 40MPH he stopped was shaking his head and mouthing something to me (no doubt about the "speed" and noise ). He then watched me as drove on down the road at under the speed limit, no doubt "outraged" and offended by the loud (factory standard) exhaust and how i clearly must have been speeding.....

Hopefully its ruined his afternoon