RE: Aston Martin Vantage: Lift off
Discussion
nickwilcock said:
Butt-ugly styling, particularly the nose. Ridiculous blingtastic interior.
It seems that Aston have stopped making cars with discrete elegance and style.
What a great pity.
I don't think that there is money in making cars for the more gentlemanly tastes of subtlety, elegance and style - those who have money and are prepared to spend it on expensive metal from mainstream manufacturers seem to prefer a certain amount of bling... those who are prepared to spend money and want subtlety will go for something a little more bespoke - perhaps the Singers / Eagles of this world...It seems that Aston have stopped making cars with discrete elegance and style.
What a great pity.
Car looks okay, but would agree that it is no longer a gentleman's car...
Actually looks pretty brilliant in studio lighting in red IMO - Carfection vid here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqFb0ssFM1o (also with a suggestion there will be a manual - hurrah!).
Who let the designer of mid-ranking renaults from the noughties design the interior?
Exterior works for me, seats etc can be specced to taste but the dash architecture is a mess - i really hope the air vent surrounds are made of aluminium or stainless steel not the faux-steel from the aformentioned mid-naughties Renault
The issue with the dash is it looks poor today, will look dreadful in 10 -15 years - and what ever you say about the outgoing car, the classic looks and interior have aged gracefully.
Wow love that! Think they have nailed the styling, which can't of been a easy task as its predecessor was/is arguably the best looking modern Aston. Not convinced on the centre console but who cares, it'll look much better when they put a manual gearstick in it.
£120k seems a lot to me, but then we live in a world of £35k vw golfs and Porsches with option lists longer than the yellow pages so I guess it is all relevant!
Role on another V12 Vantage. I'll take one in green with a manual gearbox please Also need Santa to put winning Lotto numbers in my stocking, but hey we can dream!
£120k seems a lot to me, but then we live in a world of £35k vw golfs and Porsches with option lists longer than the yellow pages so I guess it is all relevant!
Role on another V12 Vantage. I'll take one in green with a manual gearbox please Also need Santa to put winning Lotto numbers in my stocking, but hey we can dream!
My apologies, Ph'ers, you are about to lose all your afternoons productivity.
There is a configurator live.... Https://configurator.astonmartin.com/#/AM600
There is a configurator live.... Https://configurator.astonmartin.com/#/AM600
PHMatt said:
This is not so much a criticism, more an observation.....
I find it very hard to put any generation of Astons into a hierarchical line up.
As it stands, it looks quite clear that this will sit below the DB11 even though they have the same engine.
But what happens when Aston get itchy and stick a V12 in this and it goes faster and costs more than a base level DB11? (IE v12 Vantage and DB9)
I couldn't imagine BMW putting a V12 into an M4 to make it more epic than a V8 M6 for example
Probably no different to when the V12V went quicker than the old DB9, I'd imagine.I find it very hard to put any generation of Astons into a hierarchical line up.
As it stands, it looks quite clear that this will sit below the DB11 even though they have the same engine.
But what happens when Aston get itchy and stick a V12 in this and it goes faster and costs more than a base level DB11? (IE v12 Vantage and DB9)
I couldn't imagine BMW putting a V12 into an M4 to make it more epic than a V8 M6 for example
PHMatt said:
This is not so much a criticism, more an observation.....
I find it very hard to put any generation of Astons into a hierarchical line up.
As it stands, it looks quite clear that this will sit below the DB11 even though they have the same engine.
But what happens when Aston get itchy and stick a V12 in this and it goes faster and costs more than a base level DB11? (IE v12 Vantage and DB9)
I couldn't imagine BMW putting a V12 into an M4 to make it more epic than a V8 M6 for example
Some manufacturers worry about this, Porsche for example by not letting the Cayman get near a 911. But then the Cayman is very close to a 911.I find it very hard to put any generation of Astons into a hierarchical line up.
As it stands, it looks quite clear that this will sit below the DB11 even though they have the same engine.
But what happens when Aston get itchy and stick a V12 in this and it goes faster and costs more than a base level DB11? (IE v12 Vantage and DB9)
I couldn't imagine BMW putting a V12 into an M4 to make it more epic than a V8 M6 for example
It doesn't seem to bother Aston, and nor should it. If they fit a V12 in the Vantage, and it runs rings round their big GT car, it doesn't matter. They are different cars in different segments
I was someone who didn't 'get' the DB11 until I saw one in the flesh, and in the right colour.
I spent the weekend at my BIL's, and the more I gaze at his DB11, the more beautiful angles and shapes I find. Out of the showroom, and in the right colour, it's a truly fabulous shape. And it's much smaller in the flesh than it looks in pictures.
Now I've had more time to digest, I'm starting to understand the new design language for AM... and I think it modernises the brand in a way sticking spoilers/vents/wings on the classic shape really couldn't. This makes the current V8V look positively ancient.
But again, this is a very colour sensitive shape. I saw the lime green car and immediately disliked it. Then I saw a video on YT of a red car with gloss black trim and it looked fabulous.
The interior looks like it's been lifted from a Merc GTS... which isn't a criticism!
I spent the weekend at my BIL's, and the more I gaze at his DB11, the more beautiful angles and shapes I find. Out of the showroom, and in the right colour, it's a truly fabulous shape. And it's much smaller in the flesh than it looks in pictures.
Now I've had more time to digest, I'm starting to understand the new design language for AM... and I think it modernises the brand in a way sticking spoilers/vents/wings on the classic shape really couldn't. This makes the current V8V look positively ancient.
But again, this is a very colour sensitive shape. I saw the lime green car and immediately disliked it. Then I saw a video on YT of a red car with gloss black trim and it looked fabulous.
The interior looks like it's been lifted from a Merc GTS... which isn't a criticism!
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