RE: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo: Driven

RE: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo: Driven

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Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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sidesauce said:
A 2.3 ton car doing 0-62 in 3.4secs is quite frankly outrageous - I for one am glad it exists!
But what about a car that has 1820 litres of boot space.

Does 0-60 in 3.5s

You can make it 2wd when on your own wink
Is £40k cheaper before you start the Porsche options game

Mercedes-AMG E63 S Estate 4Matic+ ( which is nearly as long a name....)

You really have to love the badge and the shape of the Porker ( and it is a porker at the same weight as the new Tesla Van that has not been announced yet ).

Funny that a £100k Merc seems a bit of a bargain.







Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Why would someone buy this when they can buy a mapped Golf R estate that can do the same 0-60 for 25 k?? Pointless

Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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hehe

MDL111

6,941 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Chestrockwell said:
Why would someone buy this when they can buy a mapped Golf R estate that can do the same 0-60 for 25 k?? Pointless
....because judging by threads on here one will not own a Golf R or similar for long in the UK before it goes walkabouts ...

RumbleOfThunder

Original Poster:

3,557 posts

203 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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loudlashadjuster said:
Reckon you could ramp up the JPEG compression on those images a bit more, lads. It's still recognisably a car.
Criminal!

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

JMF894

5,504 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Chestrockwell said:
Why would someone buy this when they can buy a mapped Golf R estate that can do the same 0-60 for 25 k?? Pointless
Oh yes of course the Golf and Pan are comparable cars now are they?

JMF894

5,504 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Chestrockwell said:
hehe
Ah! Just seen your second post. Tongue in cheek. I'll fetch me coat.................... getmecoat

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Gandahar said:
But what about a car that has 1820 litres of boot space.

Does 0-60 in 3.5s

You can make it 2wd when on your own wink
Is £40k cheaper before you start the Porsche options game

Mercedes-AMG E63 S Estate 4Matic+ ( which is nearly as long a name....)

You really have to love the badge and the shape of the Porker ( and it is a porker at the same weight as the new Tesla Van that has not been announced yet ).

Funny that a £100k Merc seems a bit of a bargain.

There is no question that the AMG delivers comparable performance for a lot less money. Further, the Pana delivers only marginally more space as a hatchback

I have driven the regular Turbo and the handling is simply amazing for a big car. I agree you have to like it a lot to buy it but it does feel very special to me.

As for practicality it is really a strict four seater. I had the height of the rear deck measured and it is too low for my Great Dane to fit comfortably. Solution is to hang onto my ten year old workhorse Cayenne S which has 230,000 km on it and use it for dog work

In summary, if you want a proper station wagon with vivid performance this is not really the best choice.

I am not too practical I guess.

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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I was lucky enough to drive the Petrol 4S and "standard" Hybrid 4 at Silverstone Experience centre yesterday.

Personally I find the "standard" shape easier on the eye to the Sport Turismo that looks a bit dumpy and sudden in the flesh, but that's an aside.

Launch control in both cars (a pointless but fun toy) gave absolutely monster traction and acceleration off the line. The car hustled round a tight track in a way it really shouldn't for its relative size. As always being able to stop from 60 in half the 0-60 time is always a nice party trick which has a secondary benefit of meaning the non ceramic brakes

I was surprised that the Hybrid didnt give anything in handling to the petrol only 4S.

Track driving with heavy braking topped up the batteries well and the switch from elec only to hybrid was very slick.

I also think the interior is one of the nicest out there in a new car.

At a shade over 80k before options the standard Hybrid feels like "plenty". Even after a 570hp M5.

Buster73

5,061 posts

153 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Chestrockwell said:
Why would someone buy this when they can buy a mapped Golf R estate that can do the same 0-60 for 25 k?? Pointless
Why buy a mapped Golf R when the bus would be far cheaper ? Pointless.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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So basically : a car for someone of adequate means with a family who lives in a city and has only a single parking space. There actually is a relevant market for it after all I would say.

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

125 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Porsche knows how to make cars, whatever segment you look at.

kambites

67,571 posts

221 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Gandahar said:
sidesauce said:
A 2.3 ton car doing 0-62 in 3.4secs is quite frankly outrageous - I for one am glad it exists!
But what about a car that has 1820 litres of boot space.

Does 0-60 in 3.5s

You can make it 2wd when on your own wink
Is £40k cheaper before you start the Porsche options game

Mercedes-AMG E63 S Estate 4Matic+ ( which is nearly as long a name....)

You really have to love the badge and the shape of the Porker ( and it is a porker at the same weight as the new Tesla Van that has not been announced yet ).

Funny that a £100k Merc seems a bit of a bargain.
Or a P100D which has the same sized boot as the Merc, does 0-60 in 2.4(!) seconds and still costs less than the Porsche. smile

Gixer_fan

290 posts

198 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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The overuse of the designation 'Sport' is quite ridiculous now. What does the 'S' stand for? So this car has it twice? So many things with sport now, even a 'sport' shower. I've seen an X-Trail Sport and a 1007 Sport. It's like Turbo in the '80s. I blame the Range Rover Sport. It's just silly and must stop !

B10

1,238 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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The Volvo V90 T8 is not bad with 407bhp.

fathomfive

9,918 posts

190 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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They've made a right pigs ear of the headlights, mind you.

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Gixer_fan said:
The overuse of the designation 'Sport' is quite ridiculous now. What does the 'S' stand for? So this car has it twice? So many things with sport now, even a 'sport' shower. I've seen an X-Trail Sport and a 1007 Sport. It's like Turbo in the '80s. I blame the Range Rover Sport. It's just silly and must stop !
Agree completely. ...

SUV...Sport Utility Vehicle for a large 4X4. The S on the model designation ( i.e. Turbo S) is just a Porsche thing that means more oomph I think.

PunterCam

1,072 posts

195 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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69g/kg, as we all know, is an utter bks. I think it'd be great if Pistonheads championed actual efficiency.

rassi

2,453 posts

251 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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How much less is the normal Turbo that must be considerably lighter?

olderbutnotwiser

36 posts

129 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Modern day Espada ?