RE: Dacia Duster: PH Fleet
Discussion
kambites said:
D200 said:
I can think of hundreds of cars at £20k I’d rather have. New and used.
Out of interest, if you were after a new 4x4 SUV for £20k, what would you get? HTP99 said:
kambites said:
D200 said:
I can think of hundreds of cars at £20k I’d rather have. New and used.
Out of interest, if you were after a new 4x4 SUV for £20k, what would you get? Apparently they do a bag standard one for £9.5k. Doubling that opens it up into a different league for similar types of car.
Even looking at the most basic spec car, you could even compare it with say an £8k used Tiguan or Touran thing, either of which are utilitarian, barely have any features on a basic model, and well proven. 4x4 ? Fair enough, but the article does say for a daily, and you can always put a set of winters on for all the use it's likely to need 4x4.
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HTP99 said:
kambites said:
D200 said:
I can think of hundreds of cars at £20k I’d rather have. New and used.
Out of interest, if you were after a new 4x4 SUV for £20k, what would you get? As I say there are hundreds of cars I would rather have than a 19-20k Dacia, most wouldn’t be small so call SUV as I wouldn’t want one of them, but each to their own
I would also rather have nearly new car – i.e. pre-reg effectively no miles or a car with few hundred to couple of thousand miles – than a ‘brand new’ crap car.
This is completely valid option – it’s not some 10 year 100,000 miles 9mpg V8 or anything
Just have a look online – it’s not rocket science.
Endless of pre-regs car – with new car warranty, plus load of nearly new cars – i.e. 2017 with next to no miles
In regards to a small SUV – as I say personally I wouldn’t want one and I think the vast majority [i.e. 99.99%] people who say they ‘need’ one are talking utter nonsense but regardless, a 2 mins quick look at autotrader and one of the first things came up were a few AWD Mazda CX3 with nice heated seats, reverse camera, Bluetooth etc etc. lovely spec [100 times better than the Dacia] – with just 10miles on the clock.
Plus autotrader is full of stuff this like : Ford Kuga, Suzuki vitara, Renault kadjar, Nissan Qashaqi, fir panda 4x4, Nissan juke, Hyundai Tucson, Nissan X Train 7 seats, Skoda Yeti - all effectively new or nearly new with full warranty and all that for 18k to 20k
If you don’t want a small suv the choice is endless of nearly new or pre reg with full warranty Focus ST’s [both petrol and diesel, hatch and estate] Mino Cooper SD Clubman, BMW 1 series - Inc 4wd, Audi A3 etc etc etc etc
If you can take a massive risk and buy a year old car you can get things like super fresh 20,000miles e or c class Mercedes, BMW 3 series, Audi A4 etc. etc. etc. etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
I haven’t all day here but the choice is endless...
D200 said:
As I say there are hundreds of cars I would rather have than a 19-20k Dacia, most wouldn’t be small so call SUV as I wouldn’t want one of them, but each to their own
So what you're saying that that you're not in the market for this type of car... which I'm sure is true but doesn't strike me as particular enlightening when discussing the relative value of a new £20k Duster. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the car and have no wish to own one... but I struggle with the idea that it's not good value for people who are in the market for this sort of car. I can't see anything remotely comparable which isn't much more expensive (new).
Craikeybaby said:
The simplicity is why I specced one of these up yesterday. It was just over £15k for what I’d go for, which is a jump on the base price, but I’d plan on keeping it for a long time.
I’d rather have something new and simple from a cheap brand, than used and complicated from a premium brand.
I did the same last year - went for a higher spec, no leather but warranty extended to 10 years and 3 years serice pack for £18k - plan to keep it for 20 years until it's run in to the ground.I’d rather have something new and simple from a cheap brand, than used and complicated from a premium brand.
Madagascan problems - I wonder if those are Indian build (known to be poor, which is why you should avoid a pre 2014 in this country if buying used) or if they have locally sourced suspension. Having said that the suspension is full length for a SUV, not road car sized, but tuned for not being too floaty/too much lean on public roads, so while over rough British roads it's very smooth, I wonder if over constant poor ahrd surfaces it bouces too much and becomes crashy. I actually find mine smoother over poor British B roads woith pot holes than myh Citroen C6 with it's hydropneumatic suspension.
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Silenoz said:
Sure. Firstly, the ride is terrible - feels ok ish in a straight line but at anything approaching a bend it rolls and wobbles and generally feels very unsure of itself (I drive like a granny too).
Secondly the economy is dire (4x4 1.5 dci) - sub 40mpg (recorded) at ‘keeping pace with the traffic’ speeds on the motorway.
Thirdly it’s already showing signs of being a wrong ‘un (64 plate, 23k) but already the MediaNav packed up - I was pleased as it was cack but now the reversing sensors have stopped working, possibly due to water ingress which is basically everywhere.
It’s one of my worst car choices to date, and I’ve owned Rovers.
Wonder if you have a real friday job. Over a year I've consistantly got around 48 mpg on back road driving with some hills, I get over 50 when motorway cruising. Again I find no problem with the ride and handling unless I enter a roudnabout to quickly at which point it does feel like it's going to tip. Going round bends, or a roundabout at normal speeds and mine feels compliant. If you'd not said yours was on a 64 plate I would have asusmed it was an Indian build, which were poor and got the car the nickname of Dacia Ruster.Secondly the economy is dire (4x4 1.5 dci) - sub 40mpg (recorded) at ‘keeping pace with the traffic’ speeds on the motorway.
Thirdly it’s already showing signs of being a wrong ‘un (64 plate, 23k) but already the MediaNav packed up - I was pleased as it was cack but now the reversing sensors have stopped working, possibly due to water ingress which is basically everywhere.
It’s one of my worst car choices to date, and I’ve owned Rovers.
Moos3h said:
Sure. Firstly, the ride is terrible - feels ok ish in a straight line but at anything approaching a bend it rolls and wobbles and generally feels very unsure of itself (I drive like a granny too).
Secondly the economy is dire (4x4 1.5 dci) - sub 40mpg (recorded) at ‘keeping pace with the traffic’ speeds on the motorway.
Thirdly it’s already showing signs of being a wrong ‘un (64 plate, 23k) but already the MediaNav packed up - I was pleased as it was cack but now the reversing sensors have stopped working, possibly due to water ingress which is basically everywhere.
It’s one of my worst car choices to date, and I’ve owned Rovers.
Start from the bottom up 64 plate would have been Indian built, small number known for a few issues, not least build quality, paint and seals/water ingress.Secondly the economy is dire (4x4 1.5 dci) - sub 40mpg (recorded) at ‘keeping pace with the traffic’ speeds on the motorway.
Thirdly it’s already showing signs of being a wrong ‘un (64 plate, 23k) but already the MediaNav packed up - I was pleased as it was cack but now the reversing sensors have stopped working, possibly due to water ingress which is basically everywhere.
It’s one of my worst car choices to date, and I’ve owned Rovers.
Very surprised at the MPG, though I do find NSL+10%=3 does knock about 7mpg off my Stepway, most I Dusters I know are hitting low 50s.
Body roll is evident, but like any car you adjust your drive, never going to corner like a Lotus, but once you are used to it, it can be lots of fun. Chucking one around Bruntingthorpe at DaciaDay 2016 was hilarious, scaring the living daylights out of passengers.
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