What Auto only cars would you like offered as a Manual?

What Auto only cars would you like offered as a Manual?

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cerb4.5lee

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30,614 posts

180 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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ging84 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The E46 CSL is certainly a car in desperate need of a three pedal manual...from what I've read about it's SMG gearbox.
This pretty much sums up this thread

why are people so obsessed in there being a knob to fiddle with in a car they have never even driven?
I would have definitely purchased a C63 AMG instead of my Manual E92 M3...if it had been offered with a manual, and that was my point.

Plenty love the E46 CSL because of its SMG for sure, but it would have been nice to have been given a choice though.

Plate spinner

17,698 posts

200 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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cerb4.5lee said:
Big GT said:
Ferrari 458

Jag F Type V6S

Manuals are needed on sports cars
The Ferrari 458 is a great shout, I think you can get the normal F-Type V6 with a manual...and it's a shame the V8 model isn't offered with one too.
You can get a V6S manual, V8 is auto only.

peteA

2,681 posts

234 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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I’ve two of the cars mentioned so far - M5 (F10) and Vantage - both are auto and I wouldn’t want either in manual form

That’s not to say I wouldn’t want them to be offered as manuals for those who preferred them that way

ZX10R NIN

27,605 posts

125 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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cerb4.5lee said:
ging84 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The E46 CSL is certainly a car in desperate need of a three pedal manual...from what I've read about it's SMG gearbox.
This pretty much sums up this thread

why are people so obsessed in there being a knob to fiddle with in a car they have never even driven?
I would have definitely purchased a C63 AMG instead of my Manual E92 M3...if it had been offered with a manual, and that was my point.

Plenty love the E46 CSL because of its SMG for sure, but it would have been nice to have been given a choice though.
I vaguely remember watching a guy who had done that conversion using M3 gearbox with a shorter final drive, it might have been one of the early Mat Farah One takes but it seemed to work really well.

It's funny I wouldn't want a manual with my CLK63.

DanielSan

18,793 posts

167 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Litchfield Imports had an E46 M3 on their rolling road yesterday in for mapping that had gone from SMG to a manual conversion. They put a pic of the car up on their Facebook page

Big GT

1,812 posts

92 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Plate spinner said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Big GT said:
Ferrari 458

Jag F Type V6S

Manuals are needed on sports cars
The Ferrari 458 is a great shout, I think you can get the normal F-Type V6 with a manual...and it's a shame the V8 model isn't offered with one too.
You can get a V6S manual, V8 is auto only.
good news driving

angels95

3,160 posts

130 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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hondansx said:
The SMG is fine really
Totally disagree. From my experience it's terrible.

downsman

1,099 posts

156 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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At the more affordable end, I'd like a manual gearbox with a petrol engine in the Jaguar XE. Why is it you get lumbered with a diesel engine if you want a manual box in any quality saloon?

By the way, I've always moaned about autos never being in the gear I would like, and the horrible way the engine revs with a torque converter. For the first time this week, my 18 year old daughter (passed her test in July) was a passenger in an auto car and came back saying how much she hated it. Quote "It was always in the wrong gear, either too high or reving too much, and it kept changing gear like it couldn't make its mind up, you'd have hated it" .................that's my girl biggrin

Plate spinner

17,698 posts

200 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Big GT said:
Plate spinner said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Big GT said:
Ferrari 458

Jag F Type V6S

Manuals are needed on sports cars
The Ferrari 458 is a great shout, I think you can get the normal F-Type V6 with a manual...and it's a shame the V8 model isn't offered with one too.
You can get a V6S manual, V8 is auto only.
good news driving
Agreed. I'm watching the used market, I fancy one.

On AT, guess what the % of total F-types available are manual?

20%?
10%?
5%?
3.6%!!

No wonder manufacturers can't be bothered to offer them any more on new models. Such a shame.

But then I don't want to fork out for a new one, so I get that I'm not even in the voting.

Mike335i

5,005 posts

102 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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I wonder how many automatics or duel clutch cars are bought because they are the fastest? For instance, a DCT M4 has launch control and can shift quicker so will be faster on paper.

But what if, say, BMW launches a limited run, manual only, lightweight, hardcore CSL that was the fastest? Would that be a sell out hit? Or if Audi was to launch a manual only RS5+,
or even a manual only Mercedes C63s Black, would they be the more popular ones?




Bomma220

14,495 posts

125 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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V12 XJS.

rainmakerraw

1,222 posts

126 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Jaguar XFR(S). A 5.0 litre supercharged V8, RWD, a talented chassis and... only a ZF to choose from. Yes it's a comfy sports saloon but come on; that setup is begging for an oar to row it with. I'm debating my next car. I've been put off the Mustang 5.0 manual, and the XFR would be perfect - if it had three pedals.

Plate spinner

17,698 posts

200 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Mike335i said:
I wonder how many automatics or duel clutch cars are bought because they are the fastest? For instance, a DCT M4 has launch control and can shift quicker so will be faster on paper.

But what if, say, BMW launches a limited run, manual only, lightweight, hardcore CSL that was the fastest? Would that be a sell out hit? Or if Audi was to launch a manual only RS5+,
or even a manual only Mercedes C63s Black, would they be the more popular ones?
Based on the Porsche model, yes, people would love them and buy them. And these not even the need for them to be the fastest. Look at the 911R.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Mike335i said:
All big engined RWD cars, especially BMW M5 and AMG Mercedes.
Wasn’t the E60 M5 offered with a manual in the US, but wasn’t rated very highly?

foxbody-87

2,675 posts

166 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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On the flip side, I owned an LS400 and thought a manual version would be pointless. The engine and transmission combination were so smooth it would have been ruined with a manual box.

Mike335i

5,005 posts

102 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Amirhussain said:
Mike335i said:
All big engined RWD cars, especially BMW M5 and AMG Mercedes.
Wasn’t the E60 M5 offered with a manual in the US, but wasn’t rated very highly?
True, not the greatest combination it seems, but I bet if they had made any RHD ones they would be gold dust now.

Mr Tidy

22,330 posts

127 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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downsman said:
At the more affordable end, I'd like a manual gearbox with a petrol engine in the Jaguar XE. Why is it you get lumbered with a diesel engine if you want a manual box in any quality saloon?
I couldn't agree more - why bother making it RWD then only fitting a manual gearbox in the diseasels? banghead Alfa seem to have done exactly the same with the Giulia!

And Bomma220, they did make manual XJ12s for a couple of years (1976 and 1977 IIRC). A guy I know used to race a manual one in the JDC series, but he's currently awaiting a rebuilt engine!

Patrick Bateman

12,183 posts

174 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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C63 is always what comes to mind first.

Ekona

1,653 posts

202 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Willy Nilly said:
Ekona said:
Literally all of them. I cannot think of a single car that I would not like the option of a manual gearbox on.
Would a Rolls Royce be better with a manual?
Probably not, but if I was in the market for an RR and it was me that was planning on driving it (rather than a chauffeur) then I'd definitely be considering a manual instead of an auto.

I'm not anti-auto by any means: I'd take a two-pedal modern 911 over a three-pedal one any day, but for some cars it would be nice to try something different. smile

Leins

9,468 posts

148 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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angels95 said:
hondansx said:
The SMG is fine really
Totally disagree. From my experience it's terrible.
Very much personal taste I feel. I loved it in my CSL, and thought it well suited to the car's nature