What Auto only cars would you like offered as a Manual?
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Initforthemoney said:
I dont get why anyone could be bothered stirring a gearbox these days as the modern day autos are brilliant now.
Why bother driving across Europe when flights are cheaper and quicker?Because for many 'being bothered' is all about the feeling, the act of it, the tactile interaction, the reward and satisfaction of getting it spot on.
Basically, for many, it's simply more fun than outsourcing the task to a microprocessor.
Cold said:
GetCarter said:
Initforthemoney said:
I dont get why anyone could be bothered stirring a gearbox these days as the modern day autos are brilliant now.
Door this way: >>>>
confused_buyer said:
Electric cars don't even need gearboxes and has anyone made a hybrid with one? Is it even possible or likely to happen?
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The Honda CR-Z was a manual hybrid. .
Some of the electric converted classic cars still have their manual gearboxes, though they aren’t particularly necessary, eg;
https://youtu.be/AJLdzRJdKrs
s m said:
C32 AMG, E46 CSL, C63 AMG
Back when I had my C32 I often wished it was a manual.Tbh the auto box wasn't that good and also suffered a few issues that seemed to be reported by quite a few owners.
I've driven manuals for many years and nowadays after owning a few dual clutch cars I can't be arsed with pressing a clutch pedal anymore,
the gearbox does a better job than me, it's a lot faster and tbh I don't miss not having a 3rd pedal
I still enjoy driving just as much with or without a gear stick, but admit there's still a place for a good manual and it would be nice if some of the manufacturers who seem to have abadoned them offered the choice.
Initforthemoney said:
I dont get why anyone could be bothered stirring a gearbox these days as the modern day autos are brilliant now.
Are they psychic? Do they change gear exactly when I want them to and to exactly the gear I want them to............?As the poster above says - yanking on your stick is just more fun
Hells bells in a paddling canoe I've had 3 auto's in my days and I hated them all with equal passion. First was a 4.0 cherokee, a shed from an auction and I almost ditched it because the kickback was so long it changed gear halfway round a corner. If I want to take a corner at 60mph I want third gear. I also want that gear at a very specific time. The jeep, sadly, would kick down and as I'd ease off maintaining speed in to the corner, it would drop in to 4th halfway round.
To put it bluntly, if you want a car that you operate with minimal fuss and zero skill, to get you from A to B then why not have an auto. The engines are bigger anyway, to compensate for kick down delays when you want to hoon it a bit, so if you operate it up and down motorways all day then again, fair enough. One day, I'll have another car, which will be an auto, because I want something to operate.
But if I want to drive a car - then it has to be manual. You drive a manual car; you operate an automatic.
Nothing better than grabbing a knob and stirring a box of cogs.
Regarding FFRR the 92-01 DT was available in a manual. Probably a collectors item now.
To put it bluntly, if you want a car that you operate with minimal fuss and zero skill, to get you from A to B then why not have an auto. The engines are bigger anyway, to compensate for kick down delays when you want to hoon it a bit, so if you operate it up and down motorways all day then again, fair enough. One day, I'll have another car, which will be an auto, because I want something to operate.
But if I want to drive a car - then it has to be manual. You drive a manual car; you operate an automatic.
Nothing better than grabbing a knob and stirring a box of cogs.
Regarding FFRR the 92-01 DT was available in a manual. Probably a collectors item now.
I think I would sympathise more with the desire for manual versions of C and E class Mercedes and 3 and 5 series BMWs if I got the attraction of sporting (rather than just fast) versions of “executive” cars. The 3 and the C, maybe, though “sports saloons” made more sense before they got so damned big, but even then you are working on a platform designed to be more business class than seat of the pants. All that work in the design of the base car to isolate you from the sweaty mechanics of driving, to make it effortless and refined, then you want to play touring cars with it? Perhaps BMW have always marketed themselves as a bit more about the interaction with the machine, but Mercedes? Audi?
To be fair, I run multiple cars, maybe if I had to live with just one I would be less willing to have the barge be a barge?
To be fair, I run multiple cars, maybe if I had to live with just one I would be less willing to have the barge be a barge?
ging84 said:
I wonder if i should make a thread for cars you wish they had had the chance to make that little bit better because they did not have put engineering time towards pandering to the whims of a minority of buyers insisting on thing like manual gearboxes.
and how much more time to make the perfect driverless cars if they didn't need to bother with the driver at all. Initforthemoney said:
GetCarter said:
Initforthemoney said:
I dont get why anyone could be bothered stirring a gearbox these days as the modern day autos are brilliant now.
Door this way: >>>>Or maybe, you can't really argue my point?
Modern day automatics are brilliant, no denying it. But some people enjoy using a manual clutch/gearbox, especially in cars driven for enjoyment. It's engaging, it gives you more to do, and it can be challenging.
I was also a die hard manual fan, until I had a drive in some quite recent autos which didn't seem to fluff between gears, change up mid corner etc. I was quite impressed. I still wouldn't want one in anything but a barge though. If I had a sportier car it would have to have a manual box.
I saw a manual XJR (1994 ish) on A/T once. That must be a rare beast
I saw a manual XJR (1994 ish) on A/T once. That must be a rare beast
Initforthemoney said:
GetCarter said:
Initforthemoney said:
I dont get why anyone could be bothered stirring a gearbox these days as the modern day autos are brilliant now.
Door this way: >>>>Or maybe, you can't really argue my point?
Mike335i said:
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