RE: BMW 640d M Sport Gran Coupe: Spotted

RE: BMW 640d M Sport Gran Coupe: Spotted

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cerb4.5lee

30,734 posts

181 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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bluemason said:
The pre facelift headlights do make the car look a bit dated
I've always thought it's a little bit of spot the difference with pre lci and post lci with these, the headlights are very similar on both and there were hardly any changes overall.

Ninja59

3,691 posts

113 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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DJM7691 said:
What alignment settings did you give it?
I will dig it out soon to show the specs it was given. Biggest issue is up front really with the fixed camber.


Ninja59

3,691 posts

113 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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8V085 said:
That's cheap, knowing how much BMW charge for a windscreen I was expecting 2 grand minimum.
Windscreen for mine was about £750 ish, fitting cannot remember but I got Paul @ Glasstec to do it as simply do not trust AG etc.

Mirror Glass is seriously pricey though - £310 just for one piece of glass (the same glass is used on the E60/61/63/64,F01, F06,F10,F11,F12,F13)

Ninja59

3,691 posts

113 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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cerb4.5lee said:
I've always thought it's a little bit of spot the difference with pre lci and post lci with these, the headlights are very similar on both and there were hardly any changes overall.
Agreed -

Headlights change design, one slat removed from the grill (down to 9), the SE got some slight changes on the bumper, Exhaust tips got 10 mm bigger on the 640i and 640D (650 has the rectangle ones), inside the idrive screen changed to be more glossy and possibly a few other bits, but you really need to look hard to see the changes (although at least they changed to LED only headlights and the adaptive became cheap to do unlike the pre LCI with Xenon standard and the LED's being seriously pricey (£2k+).

bluemason

1,070 posts

124 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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cerb4.5lee said:
I've always thought it's a little bit of spot the difference with pre lci and post lci with these, the headlights are very similar on both and there were hardly any changes overall.
I do see your point but the standard xenon headlights that are present on the car in the article are the ones that look more dated when compared to the ones with leds

BeirutTaxi

6,631 posts

215 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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When it comes to big BMWs the old 850csi will always have a place in my heart cloud9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpvrRB79koU

Ninja59

3,691 posts

113 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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bluemason said:
I do see your point but the standard xenon headlights that are present on the car in the article are the ones that look more dated when compared to the ones with leds
I do agree there, but there does at least in the pre LCI cars some issues with the LED lights and modules failing (more so in Adaptive mode). Not much of a problem in itself, just buy a replacement LED module. Which is something you cannot do, BMW's only solution is a bloody new headlight at £2k a side.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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A friend has the M6 version of this and it's a beast. Didn't expect to like it at all but I really fell for it. Looks, interior, performance are all too notch.

JNR77

279 posts

239 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Had my 640d for 6 months and cant fault it.

I previously had a F10 535d (LCI) and thought that as they had the same engine and underpinnings it would drive similar. It feels completely different - the lower CoG makes it feel more chuck-able. The exhaust sounds much more sporty - some mentioned synthesized engine note which may explain it. At high speed it moves around a little more than the 5. Interior is streets ahead with the full leather dash, mine has a pan roof which i think makes the car, shame it only tilts not slide.

Looks wise i'm not sure of any 4 door saloon that beats it, long, low and sleek. Old Panamreras looks were was challenging, new Panamera looks like an Audi A5/A7. Aston looks good to me but running cost are prohibitive but are falling in value.

Mine is diamond black with Ivory, previous 535 was carbon black, i vowed never to have carbon again as it looks great in the showroom but once on the road never looks clean and will always show swirl marks no matter how anal you are about washing

JNR77

279 posts

239 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Ninja59 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I've always thought it's a little bit of spot the difference with pre lci and post lci with these, the headlights are very similar on both and there were hardly any changes overall.
Agreed -

Headlights change design, one slat removed from the grill (down to 9), the SE got some slight changes on the bumper, Exhaust tips got 10 mm bigger on the 640i and 640D (650 has the rectangle ones), inside the idrive screen changed to be more glossy and possibly a few other bits, but you really need to look hard to see the changes (although at least they changed to LED only headlights and the adaptive became cheap to do unlike the pre LCI with Xenon standard and the LED's being seriously pricey (£2k+).
LCI has much better steering wheel

Ninja59

3,691 posts

113 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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JNR77 said:
LCI has much better steering wheel
Steering wheel update was done around 2014 so is Pre-LCI. You will find that the idrive controller was updated (along with idrive) and the MFD were also available on the Pre LCI.

cerb4.5lee

30,734 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Ninja59 said:
JNR77 said:
LCI has much better steering wheel
Steering wheel update was done around 2014 so is Pre-LCI. You will find that the idrive controller was updated (along with idrive) and the MFD were also available on the Pre LCI.
I didn't like the steering wheel at all on my 2012 model, and agree the later steering wheel is much nicer, I would have loved the MFD too.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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When was the LCI?

Ninja59

3,691 posts

113 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Gameface said:
When was the LCI?
MY 2015, but because the car is slow selling you will see a LOT of pre LCI and LCI cars in 2015.Mine is LCI made March 2015, but did not get registered until September!

R400TVR

544 posts

163 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Speccing the ideal BMW should include an automatic gearbox? What has BMW, the World, and PH come to? Sad times!

hothead50

13 posts

78 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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smilo996 said:
Always really liked this car. Very sharp design and both elegant and aggressive as opposed to just aggressive like most of their designs. Seems like a complete bargain.
Great car, but not really a bargin, it's valued at £23,100 for a private sale.

cerb4.5lee

30,734 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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R400TVR said:
Speccing the ideal BMW should include an automatic gearbox? What has BMW, the World, and PH come to? Sad times!
You also forgot...weight around 1800kg and uncommunacative electric steering as well. Cars nowadays certainly don't include much driving enjoyment that's for sure, I also prefer the past to be fair. smile

bluemason

1,070 posts

124 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Would be the ideal spec as I am not a fan of the sportier bumper unless we are talking about the m6


Patrick Bateman

12,189 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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R400TVR said:
Speccing the ideal BMW should include an automatic gearbox? What has BMW, the World, and PH come to? Sad times!
Suits this car perfectly. Should be viewed as a big cruiser.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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Patrick Bateman said:
R400TVR said:
Speccing the ideal BMW should include an automatic gearbox? What has BMW, the World, and PH come to? Sad times!
Suits this car perfectly. Should be viewed as a big cruiser.
Exactly. A manual (and a crap BMW manual at that) would be terrible for this car.