RE: Porsche 718 Cayman/Boxster GTS: Driven
Discussion
anonymous said:
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Believe it or not... They couldn't without spoiling it.If you think building a new engine with turbocharging and going through all the OEM validation required is the "easy" option, think again!
If it was possible to tune the V8 down to those levels without spoiling the power delivery and figures they would've done it.
je777 said:
How do the Cayman and Boxster manage to weigh the same?
Every other convertible weighs much more than the coupe it's based on.
Nose looks a bit Speciale-like (not a good thing in my book).
I would imagine it's to do with the fact that the Boxster (someone will correct me if wrong) is designed around a tub, so doesn't need the extra strengthening required when you lop the roof off a coupe. With the Boxster it's kinda the other way round. Design convertible then add a roof to make a coupe.Every other convertible weighs much more than the coupe it's based on.
Nose looks a bit Speciale-like (not a good thing in my book).
Apologies if this is wrong.
givablondabone said:
je777 said:
How do the Cayman and Boxster manage to weigh the same?
Every other convertible weighs much more than the coupe it's based on.
Nose looks a bit Speciale-like (not a good thing in my book).
I would imagine it's to do with the fact that the Boxster (someone will correct me if wrong) is designed around a tub, so doesn't need the extra strengthening required when you lop the roof off a coupe. With the Boxster it's kinda the other way round. Design convertible then add a roof to make a coupe.Every other convertible weighs much more than the coupe it's based on.
Nose looks a bit Speciale-like (not a good thing in my book).
Apologies if this is wrong.
The emissions numbers for all these modern turbo cars are just unobtainable in the real world. It's likely that in a few years time the Governments will wake up and realize that once again they have made a mistake.
Turbos will be the new diesel. Then it'll be size/weight. Maybe size first, then Turbos.
Turbos will be the new diesel. Then it'll be size/weight. Maybe size first, then Turbos.
suffolk009 said:
The emissions numbers for all these modern turbo cars are just unobtainable in the real world. It's likely that in a few years time the Governments will wake up and realize that once again they have made a mistake.
Turbos will be the new diesel. Then it'll be size/weight. Maybe size first, then Turbos.
Yup.Turbos will be the new diesel. Then it'll be size/weight. Maybe size first, then Turbos.
I learned that diesel was filthy in early-90s school chemistry and have been banging that drum for years.
The governments don't want to improve matters; they want to be *seen* to be improving matters (as with all things).
je777 said:
suffolk009 said:
The emissions numbers for all these modern turbo cars are just unobtainable in the real world. It's likely that in a few years time the Governments will wake up and realize that once again they have made a mistake.
Turbos will be the new diesel. Then it'll be size/weight. Maybe size first, then Turbos.
Yup.Turbos will be the new diesel. Then it'll be size/weight. Maybe size first, then Turbos.
I learned that diesel was filthy in early-90s school chemistry and have been banging that drum for years.
The governments don't want to improve matters; they want to be *seen* to be improving matters (as with all things).
je777 said:
Fashion's a ridiculous thing.
20" wheels on cars like this look absurdly out of proportion.
Agreed !!! I was starting to think it was only me that thought this. Trouble is so many cars are now designed around these bling wheels that putting something more sensible on (if they will fit ?!?) looks odd too :-(20" wheels on cars like this look absurdly out of proportion.
Imagine how a new one would feel on the road on a set up properly designed for say 18" and with a bit of depth to the profile ?
The new Type R is the same.
How does the new Cayman compare to the 6 cylinder one in weight terms?
I thought part of the push for smaller turbo engines is to reduce weight (flat 4 with turbos should be lighter than a flat 6) which helps with the fuel economy as well as performance, all helping the 718 handle better than the old ones. Is that the case?
I thought part of the push for smaller turbo engines is to reduce weight (flat 4 with turbos should be lighter than a flat 6) which helps with the fuel economy as well as performance, all helping the 718 handle better than the old ones. Is that the case?
anonymous said:
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Depends if you like torque or HP. Personally I love the instant punch and usability of torque which is why i love modern turbos or big v8s.
I used to love the high revving smaller engines but are just so unusable on our overcrowded island. Shame but seems to be the modern reality.
If i didn't live in the SE of the UK I'm sure id have a different view.
The Surveyor said:
How does the new Cayman compare to the 6 cylinder one in weight terms?
I thought part of the push for smaller turbo engines is to reduce weight (flat 4 with turbos should be lighter than a flat 6) which helps with the fuel economy as well as performance, all helping the 718 handle better than the old ones. Is that the case?
The 2.5 flat four engine is around 3 kilos lighter than the previous NA flat six.I thought part of the push for smaller turbo engines is to reduce weight (flat 4 with turbos should be lighter than a flat 6) which helps with the fuel economy as well as performance, all helping the 718 handle better than the old ones. Is that the case?
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