RE: Rover 75 V8: Spotted

RE: Rover 75 V8: Spotted

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myhandle

1,196 posts

175 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Wow! I have one of these, purchased new after the demise of MGR for some kind of discount. It has good chassis, good engine and a mediocre gearbox. It has been reliable. It’s not trying to be an M5, it’s more like an Arnage built to the size of a new 3 series, with slightly less nice interior. Please note, both James May and Richard Porter both owned 75 V6s. This car is similar in appearance but with added V8, added RWD, added Mustang, added rarity, and added eccentricity.

dunnoreally

974 posts

109 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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I don't get these. A V8 75 sounds great, and it would be if they made some more serious power, but these just don't seem quick enough to be worth the extra hassle.

KV6 for me, please. Preferably one of the early ones, when the dash was still real wood.

Mike335i

5,012 posts

103 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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joncon said:
... Rear tyres lasted 3k
Loved it
Sounds like you had some fun!

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

84 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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chelme said:
Dead brand, automatic, hideous interior, ugly, and therefore, no thank you!
What's the brand being dead got to do with it?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Mike335i said:
joncon said:
... Rear tyres lasted 3k
Loved it
Sounds like you had some fun!
Considering my current set of Michelin’s RFT have lasted 40k miles and still have 3mm you’ve bought some lemon linglongs or you like a burnout.

J4CKO

41,646 posts

201 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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aaron_2000 said:
chelme said:
Dead brand, automatic, hideous interior, ugly, and therefore, no thank you!
What's the brand being dead got to do with it?
Its not a dead brand though is it !

http://mg.co.uk/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoPLGr-Pu1wIVTLv...

The original company is long gone but the brand lives on, for better or worse.

kambites

67,599 posts

222 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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This is a Rover not an MG. smile

J4CKO

41,646 posts

201 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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kambites said:
This is a Rover not an MG. smile
Oh yes, true.




csd19

2,196 posts

118 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Jimmy Recard said:
Welshbeef said:
MG used the BMW 2.5TD unit which is a gem
What’s the point in making things like this up?
http://forums.mg-rover.org/mg-zt-rover-75-sponsored-rimmer-bros-90/how-good-bmw-diesel-engine-75-a-225464/#/topics/225464

Maybe you should check he facts before posting up eh.
Back in he day my old man nearly bought one with the diesel BMW engine unit.

It’s the engine from the 325 TDS and 525tds
Did you actually read the mg-rover.org thread you linked to?

The first paragraph says

"I recently ready a lot of posts regarding mystery coolant loss on petrol Rover 75's. My 2.5L was dreadful and I was glad to see the back of it."

No mention of 2.5L diesel lumps there...
smash

llyrowenjones

60 posts

135 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Jimmy Recard said:
Welshbeef said:
MG used the BMW 2.5TD unit which is a gem
What’s the point in making things like this up?
http://forums.mg-rover.org/mg-zt-rover-75-sponsored-rimmer-bros-90/how-good-bmw-diesel-engine-75-a-225464/#/topics/225464

Maybe you should check he facts before posting up eh.
Back in he day my old man nearly bought one with the diesel BMW engine unit.

It’s the engine from the 325 TDS and 525tds
The 75/ZT never came with a BMW 2.5TD - only the BMW M47R 2.0TD. 2.5 was the petrol KV6.

http://www.aronline.co.uk/cars/rover/rover-75/buyi...

Mr Tidy

22,450 posts

128 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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dunnoreally said:
I don't get these. A V8 75 sounds great, and it would be if they made some more serious power, but these just don't seem quick enough to be worth the extra hassle.

KV6 for me, please. Preferably one of the early ones, when the dash was still real wood.
Fair enough, but V8 only for me thanks! More grunt and RWD - just the job. laugh

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Am I thinking SAAB and Omega which shared the BMW 325tds & 525tds power unit?

Barchettaman

6,323 posts

133 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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I don't think SAAB used the M51 BMW engine. VW/Opel did in the Omega.

SAAB (and Opel and Renault) used an Isuzu V6 CDTi engine, in the 9-5, Vectra/Signum, Espace/Vel Satis.

Again, happy to be corrected if wrong (unlike you).

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Barchettaman said:
I don't think SAAB used the M51 BMW engine. VW/Opel did in the Omega.

SAAB (and Opel and Renault) used an Isuzu V6 CDTi engine, in the 9-5, Vectra/Signum, Espace/Vel Satis.

Again, happy to be corrected if wrong (unlike you).
Ditto happy To be corrected.

jagnet

4,116 posts

203 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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angelicupstarts said:
Mr2Mike said:
dme123 said:
I had a Jaguar XJ12, one of the last ones with a 6 litre V12 with 320bhp and well over 500NM of torque from 1500RPM to not far off the redline. I think we can all agree this is a wildly superior engine to this wheezing 280bhp thing.
Another 4 cylinders and 1.4 litres for an extra 40bhp, and god knows how much extra weight and size? "Wildly superior" are not the words that immediately spring to mind.
just what i was thinking ...6l v12 .... 320 bhp ...not so hot !
Seriously?!

This was an engine designed in the 60s (appearing in cars from the early 70s). Initial designs date back to the 50s. It was the world's first mass produced automotive V12 engine. It was designed to produce silky smooth power throughout the rev range for use in heavy luxury saloons rather than a pub bragging peak at some impractically high rpm. Experiments by Jaguar into DOHC were abandoned for production engines as it actually reduced low rpm power despite providing higher peak power.

In the back of the XJR Le Man cars it produced up to 750 bhp and won Le Mans for Jaguar in '88 and '90, so it was more than capable of providing high power outputs reliably where appropriate.

Without doubt one of history's great car engines thanks to engineers such as Harry Mundy, Walter Hassan, William Haynes and Claude Baily.

Looking at engine capacity and peak power in isolation is a fool's game.


skyrover

12,678 posts

205 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
skyrover said:
Nice engine... shame about the car
I'd have put that the other way round. With a better V8 and gearbox, this would've been a really great car.
I owned the TD4 ZT version for a while.

It was a poorly screwed together bucket of bolts.

The engine is nothing fancy, but it's a V8 and it's bombproof... that's good enough for me.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Barchettaman said:
I don't think SAAB used the M51 BMW engine. VW/Opel did in the Omega.

SAAB (and Opel and Renault) used an Isuzu V6 CDTi engine, in the 9-5, Vectra/Signum, Espace/Vel Satis.

Again, happy to be corrected if wrong (unlike you).
They've used three diesels over the years.

2.2 Isuzu four.
3.0 Isuzu v6.
1.9 Fiat four.

culpz

4,884 posts

113 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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I like the MG version of these. I know they're pretty damn rare too and worth a fair bit. I could only really buy one as a bit of an investment, as 10k could get me something that i really want, that could probably double as a daily and a fun car too.

Then comes who you come to sell it to; surely only a few out there will be willing to part a similar amount of cash for a Rover, V8 engine or not. I'm sure there are a few Rover enthusiast out there, who might appreciate these, but not alot.

stu67

812 posts

189 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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I've run a 2.5 kv6 rover connie se as a second car for a number of years. To be honest i bought it with the view to getting rid of it after 6 months, the fact that it's still with me 4 years later tells a story. I'll hand my pistonheads ticket in but don't really know why I'd want a V8 one of these, especially at that type of price. Mine cost a shade under £1k and had then done 25k miles, now 62k it was a trade in at a mates garage. My old kv6 does everything you would expect of a luxo barge and a lot more, I've become quite attached to it.

Barchettaman

6,323 posts

133 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Barchettaman said:
I don't think SAAB used the M51 BMW engine. VW/Opel did in the Omega.

SAAB (and Opel and Renault) used an Isuzu V6 CDTi engine, in the 9-5, Vectra/Signum, Espace/Vel Satis.

Again, happy to be corrected if wrong (unlike you).
Ditto happy To be corrected.
beer