RE: Lamborghini Urus launched

[PhantomPH]

Ares said:

You are probably very right, and with AMG getting better and better as a drivers option, Audi have the market to themselves. Smart move perhaps.

Could very well be. I know that for my morning commute, my S5 is the place to be. Not once have I even wanted to explore the handling of the S5 (not necessarily a good thing!) but it's really comfortable (the seats are brilliant on the 2017 cars) and effortless to commute in. It's a bit of a blunderbuss when you want it to be, but really you only use the power like that on the odd occasion - overtaking, for example.

The CGTS was a pretty compromised commuter car (not terrible by the way - if I had to use it every day, it would be more than capable) but it handled like a dream.

And as if to segue back to topic, that's why I think I am not a huge fan of uber-performance SUVs - because it's not really what I personally want an SUV for. Fine for those who do (and if someone handed me the keys to an RRS SVR I would be exceptionally happy!) but for my money I would be happy with adequate performance from an SUV. Note the word 'adequate'.

[swisstoni]

The convertible is a far more coherent design IMHO

[HighwayStar]

Andy20vt said:

E65Ross said:

HighwayStar said:

Andy20vt said:

Except this has issue has been addressed for years (better and an awful lot cheaper) with an RS4, or if you really need the space an RS6. Doubt anyone sensible will be putting kids in an Urus, they'd have the interior trashed in a couple of weeks. Or if you fancy something leftfield then this is only 2/3rds the price of a Urus, far more practical, 4WD, and if you had it without the stickers, and in a sensible colour, it's an awful lot cooler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB37QIZfgEI

That is an awful lot cooler! A souped up van...? Seriously? You’ve said if a tall SUV hits you in your family mystery car it’ll destroy it. This van could do the same... Those same kids who do ruin interiors would ruin the interior of the van, an RS6 or anything else you feel you have to recommend.
Andy giving advice on cool

just saw this!! Hilarious if he thinks that's a genuine contender as a rival for this Urus.

Why not - the SUV folks on here seem to frequently justify their purchases with 'it's more practical than an estate car, and it's got 4x4'? Well this van also has 4x4 and is way, way more practical than an Urus for a fraction of the cost. It's also more exclusive too if that's what floats your boat.

Guess the only thing the Urus has going for it is that it looks more 'showy' and I guess that's why it appeals more to folks who want other folk to know they've earned (or borrowed) some money. If you're quietly confident in yourself though and don't feel the need to show off then the more subtle van would be perfect.

So people who'd buy a Urus are buying it to show their wealth, they are wedged up. Not because they actually like it?
Way back in this thread you deemed a sports car to be ok as it's fulfils what a sports car is supposed to be. So a Ferrari, Porsche or a 'proper' Lambo would be ok but... but they are impractical, ultimately a play thing, serving no real purpose, are 'showy' and I guess that's why they appeal more to folks who want other folk to know they've earned (or borrowed) some money. If you're quietly confident in yourself though and don't feel the need to show off then the more subtle Merc E Class/BMW 5 series would be perfect? Or better still a Mondeo/Passat/Insignia and forgo the big gated 6 bed detached house or 3 bed semi. Why bother to work hard at all?
Why worry about what other people spend their money on and make nasty statements/presumptions about the kind of people they are?

[anonymous-user]

PhantomPH said:

But what about your 'selfish choice' and 'blocking the view ahead for other road users' arguments?

Well if you're going to block the view ahead you may as well do because of good reason - i.e. driving a large vehicle for practicality, rather than with a semi-practical vehicle that's really just a tool to show off.

DonkeyApple said:

It’s a bright yellow, unecasssrily expensive van that really doesn’t do much to compete with an estate car or SUV.

Minus the yellow and it competes perfectly - far more practical, same footprint as an A6, 4x4, very fast, high driving position - what more do you want? Ah okay, I get you, not showy enough maybe? Doesn't have a Lamborghini badge perhaps?

HighwayStar said:

So people who'd buy a Urus are buying it to show their wealth, they are wedged up. Not because they actually like it?

For what other reason would they buy it? The no-doubt exorbitant depreciation perhaps? The thing is uglier than the aftermath of a fistfight at a Donald Trump convention.

HighwayStar said:

So a Ferrari, Porsche or a 'proper' Lambo would be ok but... but they are impractical, ultimately a play thing, serving no real purpose, are 'showy'

Well if you buy them for that then yes, but they are also a very good sports car should you choose to buy one because you like driving.

[PhantomPH]

Andy20vt said:

PhantomPH said:

But what about your 'selfish choice' and 'blocking the view ahead for other road users' arguments?

Well if you're going to block the view ahead you may as well do because of good reason - i.e. driving a large vehicle for practicality, rather than with a semi-practical vehicle that's really just a tool to show off

You're just trolling for kicks now, aren't you? Go on, admit it....ha ha.

[HighwayStar]

PhantomPH said:

Andy20vt said:

PhantomPH said:

But what about your 'selfish choice' and 'blocking the view ahead for other road users' arguments?

Well if you're going to block the view ahead you may as well do because of good reason - i.e. driving a large vehicle for practicality, rather than with a semi-practical vehicle that's really just a tool to show off

You're just trolling for kicks now, aren't you? Go on, admit it....ha ha.

This is what I've been saying... he has to be. He's clearly not stupid but... he's being stupid. He must be sitting there giggling his arse off.
C'mon Andy, fess up fella

[Ares]

Andy20vt said:

PhantomPH said:

But what about your 'selfish choice' and 'blocking the view ahead for other road users' arguments?

Well if you're going to block the view ahead you may as well do because of good reason - i.e. driving a large vehicle for practicality, rather than with a semi-practical vehicle that's really just a tool to show off.

DonkeyApple said:

It’s a bright yellow, unecasssrily expensive van that really doesn’t do much to compete with an estate car or SUV.

Minus the yellow and it competes perfectly - far more practical, same footprint as an A6, 4x4, very fast, high driving position - what more do you want? Ah okay, I get you, not showy enough maybe? Doesn't have a Lamborghini badge perhaps?

HighwayStar said:

So people who'd buy a Urus are buying it to show their wealth, they are wedged up. Not because they actually like it?

For what other reason would they buy it? The no-doubt exorbitant depreciation perhaps? The thing is uglier than the aftermath of a fistfight at a Donald Trump convention.

HighwayStar said:

So a Ferrari, Porsche or a 'proper' Lambo would be ok but... but they are impractical, ultimately a play thing, serving no real purpose, are 'showy'

Well if you buy them for that then yes, but they are also a very good sports car should you choose to buy one because you like driving.

This has to be sheer wind-up territory. No sane human being, over the age of 8, would actually believe that st.

Good humour though, makes old fashioned slapstick look like Oscar winning drama.

[gregg88]

Anyone notice the dash error message on the picture below:
http://cdn2.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/...

[Ares]

gregg88 said:

Anyone notice the dash error message on the picture below:
http://cdn2.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/...

Brilliant!

[Yipper]

Detailed review of the Urus. Noise can be heard around ~12mins.

https://youtu.be/9WruG7SH6fE

[Ares]

Yipper said:

Detailed review of the Urus. Noise can be heard around ~12mins.

https://youtu.be/9WruG7SH6fE

Haters can hate. That looks and sounds nice.

[anonymous-user]

Ares said:

Haters can hate. That looks and sounds nice.

I agree. Interior looks horrible though; trying way too hard to fit in the range, which it does because the interiors in the Hurrican and Aventador are naff too. It's an SUV not Firefox!

[swisstoni]

Looks a bit mundane in the video. Perhaps the dark blue isn’t helping.
Needs to be a bit edgy to be a Lambo.

[anonymous-user]

it just looks like another suv, with a lambo badge on it. The cayenne turbo seems a better proposition.

[Ares]

The Spruce goose said:

it just looks like another suv, with a lambo badge on it. The cayenne turbo seems a better proposition.

What other SUV does it look like?

[E65Ross]

Ares said:

The Spruce goose said:

it just looks like another suv, with a lambo badge on it. The cayenne turbo seems a better proposition.

What other SUV does it look like?

This is PH, if a car has a remotely similar shape, has 4 wheels and wing mirrors, it's the same!

[PhantomPH]

E65Ross said:

Ares said:

The Spruce goose said:

it just looks like another suv, with a lambo badge on it. The cayenne turbo seems a better proposition.

What other SUV does it look like?

This is PH, if a car has a remotely similar shape, has 4 wheels and wing mirrors, it's the same!

"Well, it's blue and the Cayenne I saw was blue..."

[anonymous-user]

Ares said:

What other SUV does it look like?

As in jelly mould, take the lambo batch of and could be any new suv. Does it really look like a lambo, it just looks too safe, and not really exciting enough.

[Ares]

The Spruce goose said:

Ares said:

What other SUV does it look like?

As in jelly mould, take the lambo batch of and could be any new suv. Does it really look like a lambo, it just looks too safe, and not really exciting enough.

Sorry, there is no way it looks like, or could be any other SUV. What other car isn't a 'jelly mould' in your eyes?

And yes, they could have gone more outlandish, but it has to have a nod of practicality.

[anonymous-user]

Ares said:

Sorry, there is no way it looks like, or could be any other SUV. What other car isn't a 'jelly mould' in your eyes?

And yes, they could have gone more outlandish, but it has to have a nod of practicality.