RE: Ferrari F40: PH Used Buying Guide
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The reverse - if you bend your new 320 pretty seriously it'll be written off , and if you bump your 15 year old 106 even slightly you risk the same. But roll your £ multi million worth Ferrari, original Cobra , DB5 or Royale (Bug not Vaux .) into a ball and the repair cost will never exceed the restored value
coppice said:
The reverse - if you bend your new 320 pretty seriously it'll be written off , and if you bump your 15 year old 106 even slightly you risk the same. But roll your £ multi million worth Ferrari, original Cobra , DB5 or Royale (Bug not Vaux .) into a ball and the repair cost will never exceed the restored value
Actually ANY damage can knock huge value off - doesn't need to be rolled.I have a mate who had a totally unmollested 1973 911 lightweight, he was very concerned that someone backing into it would knock a lot off the value as it had never been restored or touched in any way. So it lived in the garage and was then sold.
My Ford GT started to become an issue to drive around as parts are simply not available. So when white van man is up your bumper to get a photo, it preys on your mind!
Krikkit said:
I doubt it - without trying to be harsh to DCBath (who is no doubt more successful/richer than I'll ever be), some owners could afford to simply insure their cars 3rd party only and not care that much if it was a write-off. Once you've got a high hundreds of million/billions in the bank it really doesn't matter as much.
I'm not sure that's the case. Generally to get to that level of wealth, aside from high earnings, you do so by being smart with your money and keeping spending in check. Writing off an F40 would be financially painful on some level to the majority of F40 owners.Many F40 owners don't have billions or hundreds of millions in the bank.
Of course I'm only expressing my opinion and have no actual proof or research on the matter, but F40 owners please feel free to correct me
topless360 said:
Krikkit said:
I doubt it - without trying to be harsh to DCBath (who is no doubt more successful/richer than I'll ever be), some owners could afford to simply insure their cars 3rd party only and not care that much if it was a write-off. Once you've got a high hundreds of million/billions in the bank it really doesn't matter as much.
I'm not sure that's the case. Generally to get to that level of wealth, aside from high earnings, you do so by being smart with your money and keeping spending in check. Writing off an F40 would be financially painful on some level to the majority of F40 owners.Many F40 owners don't have billions or hundreds of millions in the bank.
Of course I'm only expressing my opinion and have no actual proof or research on the matter, but F40 owners please feel free to correct me
topless360 said:
Generally to get to that level of wealth, aside from high earnings, you do so by being smart with your money and keeping spending in check.
At this day and age, with "celebrities" paid millions springing up left, right and center, footballers, youtube personalities etc. etc. I don't think that's true.On top of that I think most top tier fortunes today are inherited, not made by oneself, so smarts or business sense doesn't necessarily apply.
Bladedancer said:
topless360 said:
Generally to get to that level of wealth, aside from high earnings, you do so by being smart with your money and keeping spending in check.
At this day and age, with "celebrities" paid millions springing up left, right and center, footballers, youtube personalities etc. etc. I don't think that's true.On top of that I think most top tier fortunes today are inherited, not made by oneself, so smarts or business sense doesn't necessarily apply.
BoxerF50 said:
Bladedancer said:
topless360 said:
Generally to get to that level of wealth, aside from high earnings, you do so by being smart with your money and keeping spending in check.
At this day and age, with "celebrities" paid millions springing up left, right and center, footballers, youtube personalities etc. etc. I don't think that's true.On top of that I think most top tier fortunes today are inherited, not made by oneself, so smarts or business sense doesn't necessarily apply.
Besides, you really think the truly rich haven't found ways around the taxes? How do you think they stay rich?
Biker's Nemesis said:
Any other owners want to post pictures of their F40's or tell us about their owners experiences?
As luck would have it, FB's "on this day today 5 yrs ago" showed me these, so easy enough to repaste here with a few more!!
Ownership was enjoyable for the conversations it lead to with enthusiasts,
The car itself was a pig to drive in anything but the dry, the back end was always wanting to overtake the front, something it tried to do on the M6 a few times in the wet, Rain poured in over your feet, the windscreen would fog up resulting in having to install a cig socket heater which was angled at the front screen, and lots of dehumidifier bags. It would leak like a sieve, so after being parked outside when visiting someone, you'd have to mop water out of the drivers footwell
However when it was dry and the road was open, and you buried your foot and unleashed the swarm of angry hornets behind your head (that's what it sounded like anyway!) it was immense.. just dont try and stop again after as the brakes weren't matched to the performance!
I think I did 16k km in mine in 18 months, and all with the speedo still attached (I've seen a few videos on youtube with speedos magically not moving!)
As has been said, I could've got much more return for the car if I'd not driven it, but what's the point in that
Would I buy one again, maybe, we had some fun times, but its not the easiest car (for the brain or heart!) to drive fast in without being fully committed.
I would like an F50 though!
Edited by JamieBeeston on Monday 19th February 11:56
Stunning photos Jamie 
A proper insight into an F40 being used rather than parked up behind barriers at an indoor display.
My favourite is the one parked on the street with the Smart car opposite
It's incredible how much road presence the F40 still has to this day, in a world where cars are getting bigger and fatter with every model.
A proper insight into an F40 being used rather than parked up behind barriers at an indoor display.My favourite is the one parked on the street with the Smart car opposite
It's incredible how much road presence the F40 still has to this day, in a world where cars are getting bigger and fatter with every model.topless360 said:
Stunning photos Jamie A proper insight into an F40 being used rather than parked up behind barriers at an indoor display.
My favourite is the one parked on the street with the Smart car opposite It's incredible how much road presence the F40 still has to this day, in a world where cars are getting bigger and fatter with every model.
That was outside 202 in notting hill, A proper insight into an F40 being used rather than parked up behind barriers at an indoor display.My favourite is the one parked on the street with the Smart car opposite
It's incredible how much road presence the F40 still has to this day, in a world where cars are getting bigger and fatter with every model.I used to live about 100 meters away, and would drive over (like a tart!) but going from Notting hill down to trafalgar square via Park Lane for a lap, and back to NH, then the 100m to 202, just to ensure she was warmed up
DCBath said:
Sure, thanks.
It took me about 6 months to sell the car in a market that every dealer said was ‘red hot’. In those 6 months i saw just three realistic bids. The car ended up going to Holland, happily sold by Will Stone. My guess the miles I put on it cost me 150-200k.. pretty expensive but really worth it.
Given the huge sums involved, are these cars not ripe for being clocked? Destroy all service history and claim it's been sitting in a garage as eye candy for the last 5 years?It took me about 6 months to sell the car in a market that every dealer said was ‘red hot’. In those 6 months i saw just three realistic bids. The car ended up going to Holland, happily sold by Will Stone. My guess the miles I put on it cost me 150-200k.. pretty expensive but really worth it.
TEKNOPUG said:
Given the huge sums involved, are these cars not ripe for being clocked? Destroy all service history and claim it's been sitting in a garage as eye candy for the last 5 years?
That’s pretty much most Ferrari’s in general. I recall a 355 with very few miles and zero service history went up for auction recently.It could’ve easily been a clocked car but sold for big money.
JamieBeeston said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Any other owners want to post pictures of their F40's or tell us about their owners experiences?
As luck would have it, FB's "on this day today 5 yrs ago" showed me these, so easy enough to repaste here with a few more!!The car itself was a pig to drive in anything but the dry, the back end was always wanting to overtake the front, something it tried to do on the M6 a few times in the wet, Rain poured in over your feet, the windscreen would fog up resulting in having to install a cig socket heater which was angled at the front screen, and lots of dehumidifier bags. It would leak like a sieve, so after being parked outside when visiting someone, you'd have to mop water out of the drivers footwell
Edited by JamieBeeston on Monday 19th February 11:56
From your description of winter driving it sounds just like a more expensive Lotus S1 Elise
TEKNOPUG said:
Given the huge sums involved, are these cars not ripe for being clocked? Destroy all service history and claim it's been sitting in a garage as eye candy for the last 5 years?
That's a bit overkill. I dunno what the score is with these, but many cars have a physical cable to the odometer. Pop it out and pile those miles up guilt free. JamieBeeston said:
As luck would have it, FB's "on this day today 5 yrs ago" showed me these, so easy enough to repaste here with a few more!!
(OP posted a lot of great pictures)
Ownership was enjoyable for the conversations it lead to with enthusiasts,
The car itself was a pig to drive in anything but the dry, the back end was always wanting to overtake the front, something it tried to do on the M6 a few times in the wet, Rain poured in over your feet, the windscreen would fog up resulting in having to install a cig socket heater which was angled at the front screen, and lots of dehumidifier bags. It would leak like a sieve, so after being parked outside when visiting someone, you'd have to mop water out of the drivers footwell
However when it was dry and the road was open, and you buried your foot and unleashed the swarm of angry hornets behind your head (that's what it sounded like anyway!) it was immense.. just dont try and stop again after as the brakes weren't matched to the performance!
I think I did 16k km in mine in 18 months, and all with the speedo still attached (I've seen a few videos on youtube with speedos magically not moving!)
As has been said, I could've got much more return for the car if I'd not driven it, but what's the point in that
Would I buy one again, maybe, we had some fun times, but its not the easiest car (for the brain or heart!) to drive fast in without being fully committed.
I would like an F50 though!
Cheers for this, what a great reply. (OP posted a lot of great pictures)
Ownership was enjoyable for the conversations it lead to with enthusiasts,
The car itself was a pig to drive in anything but the dry, the back end was always wanting to overtake the front, something it tried to do on the M6 a few times in the wet, Rain poured in over your feet, the windscreen would fog up resulting in having to install a cig socket heater which was angled at the front screen, and lots of dehumidifier bags. It would leak like a sieve, so after being parked outside when visiting someone, you'd have to mop water out of the drivers footwell
However when it was dry and the road was open, and you buried your foot and unleashed the swarm of angry hornets behind your head (that's what it sounded like anyway!) it was immense.. just dont try and stop again after as the brakes weren't matched to the performance!
I think I did 16k km in mine in 18 months, and all with the speedo still attached (I've seen a few videos on youtube with speedos magically not moving!)
As has been said, I could've got much more return for the car if I'd not driven it, but what's the point in that
Would I buy one again, maybe, we had some fun times, but its not the easiest car (for the brain or heart!) to drive fast in without being fully committed.
I would like an F50 though!
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