Insurance for a 17yr old with out black box. Is it possible?

[smithyithy]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

I think it's the other way around. My mates son has just cost his insurer £45K, the bloody idiot.

18 y/o daughter of my mom’s friend hit a similar figure recently. She was over the limit, speeding, ran a red light at a staggered junction and plowed into the back of a new BMW. Thank god nobody was seriously injured but she’s lost her licence, absolute idiot..