Neighbour been round to show gang scoping my car last night

Neighbour been round to show gang scoping my car last night

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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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At a relatives over Xmas and he was telling me that one of his neighbours Golf R was taken - broke in while house empty and got the key. The 'funny' part of the story is they left the key and the other car in the garage..an Aston V8 Vantage! Can only surmise that taking that would have been too obvious to the police?

Anyway, I would park it away from your house - if it isn't there I doubt they would break in to find out where it is.

TwyRob

312 posts

112 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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RB Will said:
Hope nothing happens OP.
Had my own oddity last night. I was up at stupid o clock about 3.45am training the dog and heard something drive onto our gravel driveway. It’s a shared gravel driveway for 3 houses and is an addition on the end of a cul de sac.
It was an unknown (as in nobody round here owns it) white van. Think a Renault Master. But it just came onto the drive and turned around and left.
Just made me a bit suspicious as there is no need to come onto the driveway. As said it’s an addition on to the end of a tarmac cul de sac which has its own turning area and you can see the gravel option is a dead end well before you get onto it.
No overly desirable cars on anyone’s drive. A megane, few year old Z4, Octavia and a 15 year old mini and a seat baby wagon hopefully if they were nefarious they left disappointed.
They may have been burglars. Some neighbours when I was a kid hand their place emptied in broad daylight by burglars who turned up with a van and just boldly set about loading it as if they were meant to be there.

They may come back when no one is home.

Or, it could have been a lost person.

I would choose to believe the latter but perhaps add an obvious deterrent to a would be burglar to my house just in case.

sim16v

2,177 posts

202 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Just park the Golf R on a neighbour's driveway.

That'll confuse them.

scenario8

6,580 posts

180 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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AlexRS2782 said:
scenario8 said:
Of no great use to the OP but can someone try to adequately explain quite why ( as it is frequently reported on PH) Golf Rs and Audi S3s are so commonly stolen? In an alternative universe I’d’ve bought an S3 under the seemingly incorrect perception it was an invisible and swift practical modern family car as opposed to a more shouty Civic/Renault/Ford etc.
Haven't you just answered your own question?

Both cars are high performance so nice for quick getaways.
Both, just like family cars, have rear doors so they're nice and easy to get in / out of very quickly when required dependent on how quickly you want to steal something / make a quick getaway.
Plus to a lot of non car people they're just another 5 door Audi / VW (or invisible as you said) that isn't massively different exterior wise to the "Line" versions, so if you wang a fake plate on it and it could easily go unnoticed for a while.
I can understand your words, of course but perhaps naively think the number of potential ne’er do wells desiring and capable of relieving me of my well earned S3 for nefarious purposes is far smaller than the number portrayed at being of risk of being stolen. Honestly it seems I’m told it’s impossible to keep an S3 or Golf R on one’s drive for more than five minutes without an attempt being made at its theft so I wonder quite where the market is for stolen and re-used cars, or exported (RHD must be an issue here surely?) or broken for parts (there can be only so many owners of lesser models who really really want the “unique” yet interchangeable parts but ask no questions or are misled. I just would have thought the market would be saturated.

Strudul

1,591 posts

86 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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bad company said:
tight fart said:
Scoped?
It was a new one on me.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sc...
Eh? Its not a slang term.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/engli...

0a

23,903 posts

195 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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AlexRS2782 said:
Haven't you just answered your own question?

Both cars are high performance so nice for quick getaways.
Both, just like family cars, have rear doors so they're nice and easy to get in / out of very quickly when required dependent on how quickly you want to steal something / make a quick getaway.
Plus to a lot of non car people they're just another 5 door Audi / VW (or invisible as you said) that isn't massively different exterior wise to the "Line" versions, so if you wang a fake plate on it and it could easily go unnoticed for a while.

Edit - Also, like another poster above has said, if it's been stolen for stripping / parts they'll get a fair return on most parts given the high levels of ££££ spent by the DUB sceners on eBay, Gumtree, FaceAche, etc, to bling up their cars given that a fair percentage of those parts probably has a dubious history behind being sold (especially in some areas of the UK)

Edited by AlexRS2782 on Monday 8th January 22:45
I still find it strange how attractive these cars are (my ignorance no doubt!) to those who steal them.

Are there really so many bank jobs requiring a fast car with 5 doors, or that many car chases?!

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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i would give the police a call on that non emergency number, Maybe get a few, ''warning dogs'' and ''cctv stickers'' in predominate places. You just to make your car more hassle than someone else, unfortunately.

meehaja

607 posts

109 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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In the counter universe where I do interesting things instead of being on the Internet, I always liked the idea of getting an S3, selling the bumpers and wheels, making it look as standard as possible. Maybe there’s a market for plain, uninteresting drivers cars.

bad company

18,698 posts

267 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Cold said:
bad company said:
tight fart said:
Scoped?
It was a new one on me.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sc...
Alright Granddads?

It's not exactly new terminology.
Oi ****!!!!! redcard

RB Will

9,666 posts

241 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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TwyRob said:
RB Will said:
Hope nothing happens OP.
Had my own oddity last night. I was up at stupid o clock about 3.45am training the dog and heard something drive onto our gravel driveway. It’s a shared gravel driveway for 3 houses and is an addition on the end of a cul de sac.
It was an unknown (as in nobody round here owns it) white van. Think a Renault Master. But it just came onto the drive and turned around and left.
Just made me a bit suspicious as there is no need to come onto the driveway. As said it’s an addition on to the end of a tarmac cul de sac which has its own turning area and you can see the gravel option is a dead end well before you get onto it.
No overly desirable cars on anyone’s drive. A megane, few year old Z4, Octavia and a 15 year old mini and a seat baby wagon hopefully if they were nefarious they left disappointed.
They may have been burglars. Some neighbours when I was a kid hand their place emptied in broad daylight by burglars who turned up with a van and just boldly set about loading it as if they were meant to be there.

They may come back when no one is home.

Or, it could have been a lost person.

I would choose to believe the latter but perhaps add an obvious deterrent to a would be burglar to my house just in case.
My thought was burglars having a look what cars are there in the middle of the night so they can then tell if it’s empty during the day. I guess our only saving grace here is that the wife works for me so we only take the one car so generally one or both cars are on the drive all the time.
Have a reasonably sized scary looking barky dog but she is the thing I would be most upset about them taking or harming.

V8RX7

26,928 posts

264 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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sim16v said:
What about contacting the police to see if they'd be interested in setting up a stake out to catch them in the act?

The police always work better on good intel.
IME They don't give a toss

And that was before all the cut backs.

In fairness how many "spare" officers do they have to sit around for weeks on the off chance they come back - and lets remember there is no definite proof they are car thieves.


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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They have the secret ANPR network that is useful to track criminals, that is a start.

bad company

18,698 posts

267 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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V8RX7 said:
IME They don't give a toss

And that was before all the cut backs.

In fairness how many "spare" officers do they have to sit around for weeks on the off chance they come back - and lets remember there is no definite proof they are car thieves.
Someone drove into my house a month or so ago. I had a witness and the car registration details. All I got from the police was a crime number. frown

CoolHands

18,739 posts

196 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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I would drive it miles away and get a lift back. Then organise handing it back if it’s going in 3 weeks anyway. Pointless informing police.

V8RX7

26,928 posts

264 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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bad company said:
Someone drove into my house a month or so ago. I had a witness and the car registration details. All I got from the police was a crime number. frown
My neighbour was a civilian worker for the Police (on the front desk)

His car was hit and run and he got a partial plate along with make and model - he couldn't get them to even try to find it.

caelite

4,280 posts

113 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Evanivitch said:
JQ said:
Genuine question, would it serve a purpose? They've done nothing wrong and you can't make out the plate in the CCTV or any useful identification of the scrotes.
They could have been connected to other car thefts. The intelligence could allow police to set up an observation of your vehicle and arrest them in the act.

They could even check a local ANPR camera, of they have the time.

And you can milk it abit, say you feel that your family is at risk as they may attempt to break the door down.

All helpful when you're in court having dominated the stairs.
This, so much.

Makes the police's jobs easier if they happen to have other tip offs, also adds an extra layer of much needed defence if you do end up accidentally clobbering one of them with a golf stick.

fttm

3,701 posts

136 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Not a nice scenario OP , I'd be calling plod to report the scope then at least there'll be a record on file . Hope all goes well for you .

parabolica

6,730 posts

185 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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JQ said:
Will an E39 540i be a moneypit?
Depends how much you find a car for. My dad's neighbour just got a 2000 540i for the pricey sum of £0 after a mate of a mate wanted it gone due to a failed starter motor (something my dad's neighbour has already fixed). Car has/had damp on the inside but otherwise is sound; guy lucked out big time.

poo at Paul's

14,172 posts

176 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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V8RX7 said:
bad company said:
Someone drove into my house a month or so ago. I had a witness and the car registration details. All I got from the police was a crime number. frown
My neighbour was a civilian worker for the Police (on the front desk)

His car was hit and run and he got a partial plate along with make and model - he couldn't get them to even try to find it.
I can beat all that. My car got nicked from the drive, but with no key, they towed it up the road but it got stuck between kerb and parked cars. We think they were after my van on the drive, but they rather craply blokced their own route out with the van, as it is a cul de sac.
Anyway, it was reported as stolen, but obviously I parked it back on my drive and carried on using it. 2 weeks later I noticed it was out of MOT 5 months before, got it MOtd, thought it odd cops never said owt when i reported it as "nicked". But then it got even more weird. About another 3 weeks after, so 5 from the incident, plod called to say "sorry, despite extensive investigations and monitoring of ANPR, there was no sign of my stolen car at all". I'd done 1500 miles all round Uk in it been to Bradford in it twice and to Glasgow, and it was parked on my driveway!
When I pointed it out, and it was clear they were rumbled as having done fk all, they just started asking if my number plates were legal....

fking useless and the tea leaves know that.

Brams96

15 posts

91 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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The cops may not be able to do much but they could increase patrols in the area.

Things are so dodgy now, we live in a quiet village, normally, but there have been cars mirrors smashed off, gravestones pushed over, a guy was randomly beaten up NYE (lost several teeth etc) & people sitting in cars looking dodgy for hours in our road (cul-de-sac). Not to mention the number of dogs being stolen all over the place, a lady on my wifes FB site had 4 cockers stolen from her back garden then they came back & took 3 more a few days later! They are usually used for breeding, selling on or worse bait dogs frown

The problem is if we defend our property/selves/family with 'reasonable force' we as the victim can end up in court on the wrong side. Reasonable force to me is if they are in my home, on my property or trying to take something that is mine, they have lost the right to breath! I'm looking to get a friction lock baton (ASP) for around the house at night, yes I've had previous training, & we're installing CCTV & PIR flood lights around the house.

We're also taking to our neighbors about setting up a neighbor hood watch & letting each other know if we see anything suspicious, something the lack of community these days is missing.
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