RE: Mini Cooper S gets DCT 'box

RE: Mini Cooper S gets DCT 'box

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edwheels

256 posts

147 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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I liked all the iterations of the Mini Cooper S until the current one. Almost went for a 2013 model - it was a superbly driving car in a subtle grey with no stripes.

The new grill shape and rear lights which followed didn’t work for me but even more so was the cringe inducing dash message “Maximum go-kart feel” - I believe this happened when you switch to sport mode.

I don’t know - maybe I am getting old or too cynical but this single patronising message made me realise this is not the car for me - nor will it ever be no matter what new thing they do to the styling.

PK0001

347 posts

178 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Chrometastic

Very 70's

And looks sh*t

rare6499

659 posts

140 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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I have a GP1. The best modern Mini...(not biased).

Obviously big fan of the R53, always liked the R56 but the F series are horrendously ugly. The only thing I actually like on this IS the rear lights - controversial! The rest you can keep...

JonnyVTEC

3,005 posts

176 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Dave Hedgehog said:
brexit fans will love them
Apparently the left indicator only works 51% of the time.

8V085

670 posts

78 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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JonnyVTEC said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
brexit fans will love them
Apparently the left indicator only works 51% of the time.
Wouldn't that be 49% ?

RBH58

969 posts

136 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I’m really surprised that BMW have done this when they’ve announced that they are dropping DCTs from the BMW brand in favour of proper autos.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I expect different rear lights will be available as an option @ £500

Loyly

17,998 posts

160 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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RBH58 said:
I’m really surprised that BMW have done this when they’ve announced that they are dropping DCTs from the BMW brand in favour of proper autos.
Even for the M cars?

Tim bo

1,956 posts

141 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Jimboka said:
I expect different rear lights will be available as an option @ £500
... which would be worth it.

RBH58

969 posts

136 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Loyly said:
RBH58 said:
I’m really surprised that BMW have done this when they’ve announced that they are dropping DCTs from the BMW brand in favour of proper autos.
Even for the M cars?
Yes! Even for the M cars!

culpz

4,884 posts

113 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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RBH58 said:
Loyly said:
RBH58 said:
I’m really surprised that BMW have done this when they’ve announced that they are dropping DCTs from the BMW brand in favour of proper autos.
Even for the M cars?
Yes! Even for the M cars!
Especially the M cars.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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HorneyMX5 said:
These cars are much like MX5s.
Slow and over rated?

Ha ha, I jest :-)

stuart-b

3,643 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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The Germans are having fun. The lights suit their target audience now.

Mini- Brexit edition

Limpet

6,318 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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We're on our second Bini. The first was an R57 Cooper S convertible which had a great engine (later 184 unit) and really fun handling, but became unsuited to our needs through no fault of its own. To reflect changing circumstances and needs, this was replaced with an F54 Cooper D Clubman, which I will admit has "challenging" styling, but is a really practical, refined, good to drive and beautifully finished mini-estate. You can fit two small dogs in the boot, two growing kids in the back, and it still drives like a Bini, despite the size. No, of course it's not a B-road weapon, but it's a very, very good FWD chassis that's more than capable of putting a smile on your face on a good road. Lovely steering by modern ePAS standards too, alongside a supple ride that copes well with our crappy road surfaces.

Of course there is a handful of bitter people who can't move beyond the whole BMW/Rover thing, and of course those who refuse to accept that the classic Mini, for all its considerable charm and cultural significance, simply wasn't a viable proposition for the 21st century. Beyond these however, I've never understood the amount of hate the Bini gets, particularly from people who enjoy driving.

RBH58

969 posts

136 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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stuart-b said:
The Germans are having fun. The lights suit their target audience now.

Mini- Brexit edition
If they had a real sense of humour, they’d release a Brexit Edition with 1970s British Leyland build quality. smile

RichTBiscuit

430 posts

152 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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those lights.

RumbleOfThunder

3,560 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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The tail lights are fine in comparison to this toffee:


Jim AK

4,029 posts

125 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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RBH58 said:
If they had a real sense of humour, they’d release a Brexit Edition with 1970s British Leyland build quality. smile
You mean they haven't released this already?

At good proportion of the 40 or so we have had on the fleet here seemed to have a 70`s BL vibe going on with leaks, lots of warning lights for no apparent reason,steering issues, gearbox issues, chocolate interiors, cam chain death rattle & our last remaining one, that I can`t return until July, still has a clutch pedal problem the dealer can`t fix!!

lenny007

1,339 posts

222 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I really don't know who is in charge of the production vehicles side of Mini but they basically want taking out back and given a good shoeing.

Since R53 (and arguably) R56, it's been downhill on styling front and uphill on the size and weight front.

The current line up of Hatchback (which looks like it's trying to vomit out a black frisbee...(not forgetting the fake bonnet scoop)



or the five door with the worlds worst ratio of front to back doors...



or the current Clubman where they ordered the rear lights before deciding where to put them...



(please, in the facelift, just rotate the lights 90 degrees. It won't cost anything with respect to manufacturing costs, just put them where they belong!)

It's coming to something when the most appealing car in the range is the new Countryman which at least looks in proportion and the styling cues fit the car. Unless you look at the cost where you realise that a reasonably specced one to look like they do in the ads is north of £30K.

Some people may not have liked the R53 when it first came out as it was not a "real mini" but in hindsight, it may just have been the highlight of the brand since it's relaunch. Which is sad in so many ways.


phishsticks

12 posts

125 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I can't believe a good number of dour, sensible people saw those lights and went 'yes, that is a good idea'.