Attempted Theft BMW M235i

[w00tman]

I'm pretty sure the charity bag comments was that potential miscreants or ne'er-do-wells could freely walk up & down drives, walk up to doors etc under the pretence of delivering charity bags, unchallenged. This could allow them to "scope out" a property, have a look at cars on drive etc.

I have no opinion if this is correct, just expanding on what I understood to be his point.

[No Face]

w00tman said:

I'm pretty sure the charity bag comments was that potential miscreants or ne'er-do-wells could freely walk up & down drives, walk up to doors etc under the pretence of delivering charity bags, unchallenged. This could allow them to "scope out" a property, have a look at cars on drive etc.

That’s how I understood it too.

[gforceg]

No Face said:

w00tman said:

I'm pretty sure the charity bag comments was that potential miscreants or ne'er-do-wells could freely walk up & down drives, walk up to doors etc under the pretence of delivering charity bags, unchallenged. This could allow them to "scope out" a property, have a look at cars on drive etc.

That’s how I understood it too.

They might also not think of wearing gloves so if you kept the bag there might be fingerprints on it of someone known to the police.

I might be over thinking it.

[Mr2Mike]

w00tman said:

I'm pretty sure the charity bag comments was that potential miscreants or ne'er-do-wells could freely walk up & down drives, walk up to doors etc under the pretence of delivering charity bags, unchallenged. This could allow them to "scope out" a property, have a look at cars on drive etc.

I have no opinion if this is correct, just expanding on what I understood to be his point.

Bloody hell, my house and car must have been scoped out every couple of weeks for the past few years.

[HannsG]

Someone posted about a cracking CCTV system in this forum the other day.

Four cameras and it was all wireless etc. For around £400...I'll be looking to get one

[jonwm]

dimots said:

Naive question but would leaving the key in the other side of the patio lock prevent them from bumping the lock?

Friend got burgled recently and they made a small hole in the glass, poked hand through and turned the key in there French door,police advise to them was to remove key from the lock

[LocoBlade]

dimots said:

Naive question but would leaving the key in the other side of the patio lock prevent them from bumping the lock?

Not sure if you have standard quality locks that can be bypassed in seconds (Google euro cylinder lock snapping) or decent 3 star locks that are better designed to stop various attacks but certainly leaving the key in better quality locks often makes them less secure as having the key in the slot prevents some of the protection mechanisms inside the lock from functioning should it be attacked.

[J4CKO]

West Yorkshire, well I never !

Sorry to hear that OP, you do live near some car crime hotspots, some good tips, the trellis one being one I hadnt considered.

[Syndrome280]

HannsG said:

Someone posted about a cracking CCTV system in this forum the other day.

Four cameras and it was all wireless etc. For around £400...I'll be looking to get one

FWIW don't waste your money on a wireless system, they can be disrupted using a £30 WIFI dongle on Amazon if it concerns them enough, get a wired PoE (Power over Ethernet) system installed instead.

[dimots]

LocoBlade said:

Not sure if you have standard quality locks that can be bypassed in seconds (Google euro cylinder lock snapping) or decent 3 star locks that are better designed to stop various attacks but certainly leaving the key in better quality locks often makes them less secure as having the key in the slot prevents some of the protection mechanisms inside the lock from functioning should it be attacked.

Crap ones I think. Iseo and ASSA. Might get better ones fitted or maybe just drop some dowel rods cut to length in the tracks to prevent the doors being pushed open.

[eatontrifles]

J4CKO said:

West Yorkshire, well I never !

Sorry to hear that OP, you do live near some car crime hotspots, some good tips, the trellis one being one I hadnt considered.

I fitted trellis to our 2m fence after an attempted break in on Police advice, but the next lot to try us just climbed over it.

[Sheepshanks]

Mr2Mike said:

w00tman said:

I'm pretty sure the charity bag comments was that potential miscreants or ne'er-do-wells could freely walk up & down drives, walk up to doors etc under the pretence of delivering charity bags, unchallenged. This could allow them to "scope out" a property, have a look at cars on drive etc.

I have no opinion if this is correct, just expanding on what I understood to be his point.

Bloody hell, my house and car must have been scoped out every couple of weeks for the past few years.

I think that's a low number - we live in a small village and get 2 or 3 a week.

[MarathonMan22]

Obviously not every charity bag or leaflet is fake but it's a great way to get up close to the home. But just hoping this and the trellis might just help someone out.

Having a decent cctv system fitted today.

Woke this morning and my missus friend (same village) been burgled overnight.

[MarathonMan22]

We have been advised to leave car keys on middle floor (3 storey) house on the top step. So it's not easy or difficult to find them.

My missus friend who was done last night had done this, and despite losing cash, cards, jewellery etc they didn't get the keys to 2 brand new cars.

Obviously everyone decides for themselves.... just sharing experience

[Willy Nilly]

MarathonMan22 said:

We have been advised to leave car keys on middle floor (3 storey) house on the top step. So it's not easy or difficult to find them.

Or buy a base ball bat and screw in a key hook on the end of it to store your keys on. This may go some way to ease negotiations into them leaving you alone.

[andy43]

Driveway posts might help, trellis is good, fence spikes (pesky cats!) are good. Pyracanthus (sp?) is a horrible spikey plant ideal for around climbing points.
CCTV cams need to be hidden low down or you'll just get film of the top of a hoodie. Leave a dog bowl and ball in the front garden. You need to think like a peasant and work out what would put them off.
Don't leave keys in doors, Patlocks work well on french doors (my sister-in-law just had her back doors ripped open with no damage at all. French doors, french doors...calm down...), glazing film will at least mean more noise, use a Faraday pouch to store keyless go car keys, and for locks and handles look at this thread https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[andy43]

Willy Nilly said:

MarathonMan22 said:

We have been advised to leave car keys on middle floor (3 storey) house on the top step. So it's not easy or difficult to find them.

Or buy a base ball bat and screw in a key hook on the end of it to store your keys on. This may go some way to ease negotiations into them leaving you alone.

Or think of your family, forget about dominating the stairs on behalf of your insurance company, and just let them have the keys once they're inside the house.

[swisstoni]

Pretty funny that the police would even think of breaking out the DNA kit for a car theft.

[Willy Nilly]

andy43 said:

Willy Nilly said:

MarathonMan22 said:

We have been advised to leave car keys on middle floor (3 storey) house on the top step. So it's not easy or difficult to find them.

Or buy a base ball bat and screw in a key hook on the end of it to store your keys on. This may go some way to ease negotiations into them leaving you alone.

Or think of your family, forget about dominating the stairs on behalf of your insurance company, and just let them have the keys once they're inside the house.

I live on my own. If you want to steal my stuff, you'll have to earn it.

[Marmax]

swisstoni said:

Pretty funny that the police would even think of breaking out the DNA kit for a car theft.

I have been burgled 3 times for a Golf R. Scenes of crime did DNA test on a blood sample left behind. West Yorkshire Police fast track the samples too.