RE: Mercedes launches new G-Wagen

[MikeGalos]

Those interior air vents kept reminding me of something but it took me a while to realize they look like really cheap 1970s tweeters off a really low-end boom box. Mind numbingly awful.

[Helicopter123]

Expect a sizeable waiting list for these.

[Quickmoose]

Helicopter123 said:

Expect a sizeable waiting list for these.

you know it's bad when you're waiting for the waiting list....

[PhantomPH]

Yipper said:

PhantomPH said:

bqf said:

Nice, I like it.

IT'S ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS THOUGH. A HUNDRED GRAND. EEN HONDERT. Jesus, thats a lot for what is a very boxy, old design, is it not?

To be fair, they are pretty pricey things: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Yes, GW prices are insane. If they had a Kia badge on the front, people would point and laugh and they'd sell second-hand for about £15k. It's urban snobbery at its best.

You are most probably correct - although that speaks to any number of cars in any number of sectors, really. (Recent example being the Stinger - I can't see Audi being all that worried they are going to lose out on S/RS sales).

I always thought I 'got' the GW, but looking at the used prices, I think I probably don't. They really do seem exceptionally over priced at any age.

[ChocolateFrog]

"honor" when did this site become Jalopnik?.

Starting from £95000, that's strong money and hopefully leaves enough wiggle room for LR to slot a new Defender in underneath.

[ducnick]

I pity the poor old defender and suspect it will become a bling box too now. The problem is that GW and LR have priced themselves out of the original workhorse market with their premium images and complex electronics.
For a farmer needing a small farm runabout there are plenty of quads and buggies that do a better job more cheaply and reliably. If you need space in the back for some farm stuff or to tow then a Toyota pickup is better and cheaper.

[DonkeyApple]

ducnick said:

I pity the poor old defender and suspect it will become a bling box too now. The problem is that GW and LR have priced themselves out of the original workhorse market with their premium images and complex electronics.
For a farmer needing a small farm runabout there are plenty of quads and buggies that do a better job more cheaply and reliably. If you need space in the back for some farm stuff or to tow then a Toyota pickup is better and cheaper.

Yup. They are premium brands that make on road leisure vehicles. Any product will be to fit that consumer segment. If Merc who still mostly make commercial vehicles from trucks to vans to minicabs aren’t making a basic 4x4 for farmers then JLR certainly can’t.

[Terzo123]

I had a brief look around A G63 wagon today in my local Merc dealer. What a machine, but 117k. Oooft.

[soxboy]

DonkeyApple said:

ducnick said:

I pity the poor old defender and suspect it will become a bling box too now. The problem is that GW and LR have priced themselves out of the original workhorse market with their premium images and complex electronics.
For a farmer needing a small farm runabout there are plenty of quads and buggies that do a better job more cheaply and reliably. If you need space in the back for some farm stuff or to tow then a Toyota pickup is better and cheaper.

Yup. They are premium brands that make on road leisure vehicles. Any product will be to fit that consumer segment. If Merc who still mostly make commercial vehicles from trucks to vans to minicabs aren’t making a basic 4x4 for farmers then JLR certainly can’t.

Don’t forget Merc have just launched the X-class, a pick up based on the Nissan Navara, so maybe a market they are looking at. All the farmers round my way are going for either Isuzu or Great Wall pickups. I don’t think the GW in the UK has ever really been much of a farmer product.

[dunnoreally]

The V8 must be a bit of laugh if you can spend that much on a toy. Doubt it puts the power down very well, but that's probably part of the fun. Not sure what the other models have over a Land Cruiser apart from posing, but I appreciate I'm not the target market.

soxboy said:

All the farmers round my way are going for either Isuzu or Great Wall pickups.

Think I've only ever seen, like, two Great Walls. All the farmers in Worcestershire seem to be either in L200s or still keeping their old Defenders going.

Edited by dunnoreally on Monday 15th January 21:16

[anonymous-user]

Sounds like the G is the car everyone loves, even though I don’t.

Mums love them.

Single women get their panties wet.

Non-PH men think it’s cool.

Gangsters and noveau rich men think it’s a status symbol for drugs, money and turf power (if applicable).

“Old money”/upper class people think it’s classy, the lower classes aspire for one.

“One Life. Live It. “ thinks its a proper off roader, a masterpiece.

Petrolheads think its a masterpiece. And pretty.

Mechanics, farmers etc like the old ones because they were so robust.


Sounds like it’s an everymans car!

[666 SVT]

£100k and the thing still has the fking door hinges on the outside?

[DonkeyApple]

soxboy said:

Don’t forget Merc have just launched the X-class, a pick up based on the Nissan Navara, so maybe a market they are looking at. All the farmers round my way are going for either Isuzu or Great Wall pickups. I don’t think the GW in the UK has ever really been much of a farmer product.

Agree. I was just using the expression picked up from an earlier post.

Re the X-class, Mercedes have commercial sales outlets all over the world whereas JLR only have premium retail. Even if JLR built a worker’s truck not only would they have an opportunity loss on each product in the tens of thousands (ie choosing to built a cut margin product for a low income market instead of a high margin retail product on the same factory space) but they would have nowhere to sell it.

And even those go Merc have commercial sales units they are still opting to sell someone else’s product rather than build their own from scratch. I wonder if they see it as an opportunity to leverage sales of the Nissan product in markets where the Mercedes brand has more traction?

[0a]

Modern merc interiors look so plasticky and cheap

Those vents!

[herebebeasties]

It's so capable off road that for the obligatory axle-articulation press shot they appear to have propped one wheel up on some convenient stones and spray-painted the tyres mud-colour...

Seriously - how do you get the sidewalls to look like that and yet have shiny alloys at the same time?

£100k worth of poseurs' chav-wagon. Yuck.

[Rich_W]

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...



£200K


Brabus G700s sound utterly fantastic dirty though! Properly guttural noise!

https://youtu.be/x5_hpTFLuYM?t=29s


They are such a crap "car" though. No legroom front or rear. Turning circle measured in miles

[borat52]

I imported a LHD G55 from Germany when the euro was at 1.37. Had it for 3 years now. Ride is uncomfortably hard, wind noise for a 100k new car rediculous, cabin outdated and it is awful around corners but that's not really the point.

IMHO they just look incredible and poke your toe down at the lights and it suddenly makes sense, great fun outrunning executive diesels on the dual carriageways becuase it shouldn't be able to do it yet it does.

Great to see merc sticking some money into building a new model, would like to see one in the flesh but it does look a little fat with the extra width.

Couple of bruisers, S600L and G55...

[FerrariHub]

I have a G AMG. My third G Wagen now. First one I had for 7 years and put on 75k miles. 2nd I had for 4 years and done about 50k. In between we had two Cayenne Turbos, but they don't really compare. This one for 2 years now. I planned to sell it, but since I started using it again there is no way I can come to sell it.

There is no car that can do what a G can do, and I don't mean off road. On road it turns head like nothing else. It looks just do not date. The interior is a damn special place to be, and mine has red interior, and red Alcantara on the roof, pillars, etc.

The back has extra seats so I can fit 9 adults if i need to.

The thing sounds amazing, up there with the best sounding setup. Especially for standard.

Would I buy the new one? Im not bowled over to be honest. Personally I didnt think the current one was broken, and feel with all the mechanical changes they have made, its no longer a G Wagen. Maybe in a few years when mine needs replacing, but not now.

[numtumfutunch]

FerrariHub said:

I have a G AMG. My third G Wagen now. First one I had for 7 years and put on 75k miles. 2nd I had for 4 years and done about 50k. In between we had two Cayenne Turbos, but they don't really compare. This one for 2 years now. I planned to sell it, but since I started using it again there is no way I can come to sell it.

There is no car that can do what a G can do, and I don't mean off road. On road it turns head like nothing else. It looks just do not date. The interior is a damn special place to be, and mine has red interior, and red Alcantara on the roof, pillars, etc.

The back has extra seats so I can fit 9 adults if i need to.

The thing sounds amazing, up there with the best sounding setup. Especially for standard.

Would I buy the new one? Im not bowled over to be honest. Personally I didnt think the current one was broken, and feel with all the mechanical changes they have made, its no longer a G Wagen. Maybe in a few years when mine needs replacing, but not now.

Mind if I ask how it rates as a family car?

Our old RR Sport was ace in this respect:
- boot big enough for luggage plus dog
- enough comfort front and rear for trips to south of France with minimal stops
- bearable tank range to enable the above
- and other stuff like all weather/snow ability

How is life with a G wagon on a daily basis please?
As much as I love the idea of one they just look a bit cramped in the back seats and boot space

Cheers

[aaron_2000]

These sell well to the kind of people that are upper middle/upper class, wear tweed, flat caps and designer wellies, go shooting yet have never gone off-road or on a farm. I call them Farmer Chic No denying they're a cool car, and good on Mercedes for keeping it going.