Are LR Velars selling?
Discussion
Ares said:
Too Drunk to Funk said:
Is anything selling? I thought the car market was on it's knees, post Brexit.
That's just what whingers will have you believe. 
mattman said:
yes, £40K+ is expensive, but when Qashqai's are £30k plus and they feel very low rent i know where i'd rather be putting my money
Err... a base spec Cashcow is £19,295 before options. You'd have to go mad with the options to get it over 30k - I've just spent a moment on the configurator, and an absolutely specced-out-to-the-max Tekna+ with the 163hp petrol engine comes to £35,091 - a lot less cash than the Velar, and it comes with nappa leather as standard, apparently... although I absolutely sympathise with those for whom the Qashqai is of no interest, whereas a Q5, Macan or Velar could be... an absolutely base spec Velar comes with Luxtec (?) seats and is £44,830. I'd really struggle to justify the difference for badge alone, even if the Qashqai is a class below size-wise... and the Velar's options list is extensive. Some of it is merely nice to have, some of it sheer vanity (bits of carbonfibre, Union Jack valve caps for the tyres!) but a lot should be standard... mudflaps FFS! On a Range Rover! First-aid kit, fire extinguisher and warning triangle options too... I thought these were a legal requirement?! I've just specced up a top-trim Velar to £109,303 - sorry, f
k that for a game of soldiers. JLR seem to think they have a license to print money, and while I wish them well in creating British jobs, there's no way any Velar is worth that. That's plenty of full-fat Range Rover money.The Velar is not the model that JLR need to worry about. If you look at their last quarterly report you will see that the Jaguar XE has slumped by 25% in the last year and that the F-pace outsells all other Jaguars combined. Sounds to me like their gamble on saloon only XE,XF and XJ hasn’t worked although the XJ is at the end of its model cycle. The other thing they need to worry about buried in the figures is a massive investment in Diesel engines just as the world has gone cold on it.
vikingaero said:
Willy Nilly said:
It's got an Activity Key. That's it then, I'm having one.
Quite a plain wristband at the moment. I foresee a market for something blingier for the target market. A fitbit looking strap isn't going to cut it at Westfield.https://senturionkey.com/
How much does such a tasteful trinket cost I hear sir ask? They start at £33,000 for the plain metal one but the more Cheshire 'Alpha' model is a mere £150,000.
easytiger123 said:
vikingaero said:
Willy Nilly said:
It's got an Activity Key. That's it then, I'm having one.
Quite a plain wristband at the moment. I foresee a market for something blingier for the target market. A fitbit looking strap isn't going to cut it at Westfield.https://senturionkey.com/
How much does such a tasteful trinket cost I hear sir ask? They start at £33,000 for the plain metal one but the more Cheshire 'Alpha' model is a mere £150,000.
Looks like the wearer is subject to some form of criminal tagging:
"What did you get put inside for? [points to Senturion bracelet]"
David87 said:
This Activity Key is a reasonable idea, I agree, but Ford have been offering something with similar benefits for years in the US - keypad entry. Lock the key in the car, unlock it by entering the code into the pad when you’re done. No expensive Active Key required.
The securilock system was part of a $6000 option pack on the car I just looked at so hardly comparable in terms of cost.David87 said:
This Activity Key is a reasonable idea, I agree, but Ford have been offering something with similar benefits for years in the US - keypad entry. Lock the key in the car, unlock it by entering the code into the pad when you’re done. No expensive Active Key required.
Seems to be a lot of positives for the US market that we don't appreciate in the UK. Go to the beach for surfing, gym, jogging, kayaking - no need to carry a key/fob. Go skiing - no key/fob. Wife gets back to car before you - use the keypad to unlock.RoverP6B said:
Err... a base spec Cashcow is £19,295 before options. You'd have to go mad with the options to get it over 30k - I've just spent a moment on the configurator, and an absolutely specced-out-to-the-max Tekna+ with the 163hp petrol engine comes to £35,091 - a lot less cash than the Velar, and it comes with nappa leather as standard, apparently... although I absolutely sympathise with those for whom the Qashqai is of no interest, whereas a Q5, Macan or Velar could be... an absolutely base spec Velar comes with Luxtec (?) seats and is £44,830. I'd really struggle to justify the difference for badge alone, even if the Qashqai is a class below size-wise... and the Velar's options list is extensive. Some of it is merely nice to have, some of it sheer vanity (bits of carbonfibre, Union Jack valve caps for the tyres!) but a lot should be standard... mudflaps FFS! On a Range Rover! First-aid kit, fire extinguisher and warning triangle options too... I thought these were a legal requirement?! I've just specced up a top-trim Velar to £109,303 - sorry, fk that for a game of soldiers. JLR seem to think they have a license to print money, and while I wish them well in creating British jobs, there's no way any Velar is worth that. That's plenty of full-fat Range Rover money.
I drive both qashqai and evoque company cars. Driving the qashqai genuinely makes me hate driving. The Evoque is an infinitely nicer place to sit and in a different league to drive. Id happily pay double the price of the gashqai for the evoque. k that for a game of soldiers. JLR seem to think they have a license to print money, and while I wish them well in creating British jobs, there's no way any Velar is worth that. That's plenty of full-fat Range Rover money.They (Velars not cash cows) are selling pretty well round here.
I got politely asked to move out of the(ir) fast lane by two velars and two rrss in a dynamic convoy yesterday on the A404 near Marlow.
All bar one were 67 plates and clearly piloted by some of the country's most important people based on their proximity to the bumper of the car in front and their continued use of full beam.
Lovely chaps.
I got politely asked to move out of the(ir) fast lane by two velars and two rrss in a dynamic convoy yesterday on the A404 near Marlow.
All bar one were 67 plates and clearly piloted by some of the country's most important people based on their proximity to the bumper of the car in front and their continued use of full beam.
Lovely chaps.
craigjm said:
The Velar is not the model that JLR need to worry about. If you look at their last quarterly report you will see that the Jaguar XE has slumped by 25% in the last year and that the F-pace outsells all other Jaguars combined. Sounds to me like their gamble on saloon only XE,XF and XJ hasn’t worked although the XJ is at the end of its model cycle. The other thing they need to worry about buried in the figures is a massive investment in Diesel engines just as the world has gone cold on it.
That's partly Jag's poor saloon offering.....but whether the PH purists like it or not, the family car sector is moving increasingly to SUVs. I find it easy to see why!Not sure if they bothered to test the door handles that well as I know someone with one that has needed to tip boiling water on the handles a couple of times to get them to come out when frozen. The touch screens also seem to scratch easy so I imagine they could look tired in a few years.
Having driven a couple they are nice bits of kit but then apart from manual cars JLR don’t make a bad product (in my opinion).
As for the Macan, great car and drive really well as they feel smaller on the the road than they are as does the new SQ5. In my opinion a different type of buyer as it is a performance SUV.
In answer to the original question if Velar’s are selling well (in the U.K. anyway) have a look at Autotrader and see how many 2017 cars there are with minimal mileage brought by independent dealers speculating still unsold. They have also started a TV campaign, apart from the Discovery 5 when did you last see that. Either way JLR still have great markets outside Europe and will just gear production to satisfy these markets.
Having driven a couple they are nice bits of kit but then apart from manual cars JLR don’t make a bad product (in my opinion).
As for the Macan, great car and drive really well as they feel smaller on the the road than they are as does the new SQ5. In my opinion a different type of buyer as it is a performance SUV.
In answer to the original question if Velar’s are selling well (in the U.K. anyway) have a look at Autotrader and see how many 2017 cars there are with minimal mileage brought by independent dealers speculating still unsold. They have also started a TV campaign, apart from the Discovery 5 when did you last see that. Either way JLR still have great markets outside Europe and will just gear production to satisfy these markets.
David87 said:
This Activity Key is a reasonable idea, I agree, but Ford have been offering something with similar benefits for years in the US - keypad entry. Lock the key in the car, unlock it by entering the code into the pad when you’re done. No expensive Active Key required.
I foresee no issues at all with that what soever, because all of the current keyless security systems have been utterly flawless. Defo. thiscocks said:
RoverP6B said:
Err... a base spec Cashcow is £19,295 before options. You'd have to go mad with the options to get it over 30k - I've just spent a moment on the configurator, and an absolutely specced-out-to-the-max Tekna+ with the 163hp petrol engine comes to £35,091 - a lot less cash than the Velar, and it comes with nappa leather as standard, apparently... although I absolutely sympathise with those for whom the Qashqai is of no interest, whereas a Q5, Macan or Velar could be... an absolutely base spec Velar comes with Luxtec (?) seats and is £44,830. I'd really struggle to justify the difference for badge alone, even if the Qashqai is a class below size-wise... and the Velar's options list is extensive. Some of it is merely nice to have, some of it sheer vanity (bits of carbonfibre, Union Jack valve caps for the tyres!) but a lot should be standard... mudflaps FFS! On a Range Rover! First-aid kit, fire extinguisher and warning triangle options too... I thought these were a legal requirement?! I've just specced up a top-trim Velar to £109,303 - sorry, fk that for a game of soldiers. JLR seem to think they have a license to print money, and while I wish them well in creating British jobs, there's no way any Velar is worth that. That's plenty of full-fat Range Rover money.
I drive both qashqai and evoque company cars. Driving the qashqai genuinely makes me hate driving. The Evoque is an infinitely nicer place to sit and in a different league to drive. Id happily pay double the price of the gashqai for the evoque. k that for a game of soldiers. JLR seem to think they have a license to print money, and while I wish them well in creating British jobs, there's no way any Velar is worth that. That's plenty of full-fat Range Rover money.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff