Are LR Velars selling?

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ghost83

5,482 posts

191 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Seen another velar this morning and utterly hate it!

Front is nice but the rear and the handles are awful

I’d rather have a rrsport

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6YYun90S8g


Doug's review is pretty good, and I was skeptical but it does look good.

cayman-black

12,660 posts

217 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Not that keen on the Velar, but at least its nowhere near as ugly as a Macan, awful car.

Limpet

6,323 posts

162 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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I've seen one on the road, And I quite like it. The problem is the price. Put a proper engine in it, and undertake even a fairly restrained box ticking exercise on the options list, and you're the wrong side of £70k. Crazy money.

Jazzy Jag

3,432 posts

92 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Laser headlamps 😎

A bit pricey though at a £3K option.

Patch1875

4,895 posts

133 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Plenty around here in Edinburgh doing the school run quite a decent looker but didn’t realise they were so expensive.

Would still prefer a sport.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Only seen one on the road up here, it isn’t to my tastes. In fact it looks like an estate car pretending to be a Range Rover.

One thing they have done is instantly make the Range Rover Sport look utterly old fashioned,

Still, the Vogue is the one to have in the range.

Muddle238

3,908 posts

114 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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I've seen a fair few, mostly on the back of JLR transporters around Brum but also a fair chunk being driven out and about. I like the idea with the door handles, but given the electrickery going on and going wrong, surely they'd have been better off simply having the same system you'll find on an AM DB9. Same effect when driving, simpler. The main problems for me are the target audience, the dashboard screens and the price.

I can't remember which poster said that the target audience will be those who care only about the badge and the age identifier on the number plate, but I agree with that sentiment. A vehicle like the Velar is appealing to those who probably need to show off to the world somehow. All it'll do in the real world is take up urban parking spaces, block your view at roundabouts and sit three inches from the car infront in L3. Then in three years time it'll appear on the forecourt at CarGiant or AvailableCar.

The touch screen again, appealing to those who like glitzy ultra-modern, latest fashion cool-tech bks. For ease of use, it would be easier to assemble a Rolex using one of those soft-toy grabber machines for kids than try to turn on the demisters in a traffic jam.

Then the price, well given that most people nowadays use a form of finance, very few will be spending £80k+ on one of these. They'll be paying a monthly for a few years, before handing it over to CarGiant and starting again with the facelift Velar. Still bloody expensive for what is a 5 seater car with a steering wheel, an engine and some headlamps.

dimots

3,098 posts

91 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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I have to agree...I do find the exterior design has merit...it looks good to me, but ultimately it’s just a lease friendly status symbol and not really a car that has any obvious purpose.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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dimots said:
not really a car that has any obvious purpose.
I think a lot of cars don't have a true purpose. The car was made to compete with Suv coupes. Most cars are leased, lr did say 20% of buyers are trading up from Evoques.



Muddle238

3,908 posts

114 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Thing is that SUV coupes don't have a purpose either. The entire concept is ridiculous, the two market segments they try to combine when one is virtually the complete opposite of the other.

Lozw86

877 posts

133 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Surprisingly the purpose is to transport people, who happen to like the car, from A to B.

thiscocks

3,128 posts

196 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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hyphen said:
You said the qashqai makes you hate driving, but does the evoke make you love driving?
I wouldn't say so but it makes it alot more enjoyable than driving that dreadful Nissan. It really just feels like white goods on stilts.

Re the velar, I have never really liked the front end but saw one in black recently and thought it looked really nice. The replacement evoque will look similar but hopefully have a nicer front.

dimots

3,098 posts

91 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Lozw86 said:
Surprisingly the purpose is to transport people, who happen to like the car, from A to B.
Yeah but it’s styled as an off-road vehicle. Form follows function doesn’t apply and that makes it arguably less purposeful than e.g. a real Range Rover.

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

208 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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I had one of the very first UK Cars (if not the first - according to my dealer it was the first car in London at least) delivered to me in July 2017 it was a First Edition Velar. I loved the car - coming out of a RRS it was actually a better drive, a better looker and excellent in car tech with the dual screens etc. I went for the First Edition as I thought it would hold value better than the other variants but at £84k it was a big gamble.

JLR then decided to update the tech in the RRS and FFRR with the same internal dual screens and other tech (laser/LED lights etc) and as many on here have said earlier you can get a RRS AB for £80k so i struck a deal with my dealer and ordered the new RRS and gave my Velar back to them in October 2017. I did this as I thought the same - why would someone want a £85k Velar when they can have the big brother for less money!?!?!


Anyway my old Velar is still standing in my dealers showroom nearly 6 months from when I gave it to them - they have since dropped the price £8k lower than I gave it back to them for but they have still not been able to sell it!!!

Probably the best thing I did giving it back to them otherwise would have taken a real bath. I have seen brand new pre-reg First Editions on AT recently for £72k!

JLR fked up the marketing of this car - it should have been the RRS coupe (like the x5 and x6 BMW relationship) but for them to openly state it sits between the Evoque and Sport was a complete marketing fk up IMHO.





PSRG

662 posts

127 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Six Figs said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6YYun90S8g


Doug's review is pretty good, and I was skeptical but it does look good.
The fit of the tailgate on the first one shown in that link is appalling! But I quite like the idea of the car itself, just not at the price you have to pay for a decent engine and level of trim

HannsG

3,045 posts

135 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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Discovery, Velar or Range Rover? Which would you choose?

The 7 seater Discovery is massive. The Five a seater looks much smaller in comparison. Or was it a Discovery Sport I saw today? God knows. There are so many versions

We get 20% off apparently including all Ford's also. Not to clear on whether its brand new price, PCP or what.


Wooda80

1,743 posts

76 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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PrancingHorses said:
Anyway my old Velar is still standing in my dealers showroom nearly 6 months from when I gave it to them - they have since dropped the price £8k lower than I gave it back to them for but they have still not been able to sell it!!!

Probably the best thing I did giving it back to them otherwise would have taken a real bath. I have seen brand new pre-reg First Editions on AT recently for £72k!
Equally interesting to watch F-Paces, and especially the First Edition, fall off a cliff in 2017 so soon after launch

David87

6,665 posts

213 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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PrancingHorses said:
£84k
You, Sir, are mental. biggrineek

Wise move swapping it for the Sport, though; I'd have done the same. Surely it came as a surprise to no-one that the Sport and proper Range Rover received the Velar's goodies at facelift time, though?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 11th February 2018
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PSRG said:
The fit of the tailgate on the first one shown in that link is appalling! But I quite like the idea of the car itself, just not at the price you have to pay for a decent engine and level of trim
Watch the f pace one as well.