Chris Tarrant - Drink Drive

[DoubleD]

Legacywr said:

Jeff_Enthused said:

Andy665 said:

I'm frankly amazed at how many people say they would not report someone who was clearly not fit to drive trough drink

Their is zero need to drive whilst over the limit and I would not hesitate to report someone if I suspected they were over the limit - it could be my son, my friends that they plough in to and kill

People who drink and drive (even more so those who believe its OK to do so) totally disgust me

Am I talking from experience - yes - my ex wife has been done twice - she is my ex precisely because of her drink driving actions

Did you actually dump your wife because she drove drunk a couple of times?

Sure, why not? It tells you all you need to know about someone's personality!

Ha ha sometimes this place cracks me up

[Legacywr]

Don't you agree?

[caelite]

Legacywr said:

What is the Scottish limit?

Breath limit of 0.22 (as opposed to England & Wales's 0.35). Roughly translates into half a pint of normal 4-5% lager or a pint and a ~2 hour break before driving to keep your average guy under the limit. 1 pint puts most a hair over.

Personally I disagree with it, I know people have different tolerances, but for me personally the Scottish limit is set so it is just lower than where I can 'feel' the effects. 0.35ish for me is a healthy 'buzz', where I know I am not good to drive, 0.22, I don't feel drunk at all. For me I'd prefer to be knowingly driving 'drunk' before falling into DUI territory.

Edited by caelite on Wednesday 24th January 20:09

[JuicyLLL]

I get through prosecco like it's some kind of age defying magic water, but I can at least wait til I get home to start glugging it.

My rule when driving is always 1 proper drink then food and water. 2 hours later that drink (and food) is happily making its way to my hips and ass and I'm fine to drive.

[RLve]

JuicyLLL said:

I get through prosecco like it's some kind of age defying magic water, but I can at least wait til I get home to start glugging it.

My rule when driving is always 1 proper drink then food and water. 2 hours later that drink (and food) is happily making its way to my hips and ass and I'm fine to drive.

Promising! Welcome to PH.

[Alucidnation]

AlexRS2782 said:

Jeff_Enthused said:

Andy665 said:

I'm frankly amazed at how many people say they would not report someone who was clearly not fit to drive trough drink

Their is zero need to drive whilst over the limit and I would not hesitate to report someone if I suspected they were over the limit - it could be my son, my friends that they plough in to and kill

People who drink and drive (even more so those who believe its OK to do so) totally disgust me

Am I talking from experience - yes - my ex wife has been done twice - she is my ex precisely because of her drink driving actions

Did you actually dump your wife because she drove drunk a couple of times?

His story is far more believable than the ones where you claim to own a Mk3 Focus RS

Sheeeeeet!

Shots fired!!

[TobyLerone]

caelite said:

Breath limit of 0.22 (as opposed to England & Wales's 0.35). Roughly translates into half a pint of normal 4-5% lager or a pint and a ~2 hour break before driving to keep your average guy under the limit. 1 pint puts most a hair over.

Personally I disagree with it, I know people have different tolerances, but for me personally the Scottish limit is set so it is just lower than where I can 'feel' the effects. 0.35ish for me is a healthy 'buzz', where I know I am not good to drive, 0.22, I don't feel drunk at all. For me I'd prefer to be knowingly driving 'drunk' before falling into DUI territory.

Edited by caelite on Wednesday 24th January 20:09

Errrr... Am I missing something here, or are you trolling?

Prevention is often better than cure, so why knowingly drive drunk?

If the limit is low, but high enough for a swill of mouthwash, coq-au-vin and a Christmas pudding. Cool. If it's too low for "most to be over the limit" after DRINKING AN ALCOHOLIC DRINK, perfect. If you knowingly want to drink and drive, you deserve everything you get.

A limit of dead nuts zero is a bit low. As others have said - even mouthwash wild have the capacity to put you over.

If you drive a car, you obviously have the mental capacity to know the rules about drink-driving. The answer is simple. Don't fking do it.

[paranoid airbag]

Too Drunk to Funk said:

Simonium said:

Too Drunk to Funk said:

Well, you can have no idea if you're breaking the law or not for one.

It's simple. Don't drink anything alcoholic if you're driving.

Why not? The drink drive limit isn't zero alcohol.

Because you'll most likely f**k up trying to do some complex formula in your head after a couple, get caught, then bh about how it's the government's fault instead of yours.

You asked how you can have an idea if you're within the law. Simonium provided an answer. It is ridiculously easy. Any failure to do so is yours, and yours alone.

[FerdiZ28]

Mr2Mike said:

So you believe it's absolutely fine and beneficial for people to be charged with DUI after using mouthwash or having Coq au vin for dinner? A zero limit is ridiculous and unworkable. I wouldn't argue against lowering the current limit however.

I do. Not hard to avoid such things or buy non alcoholic alternatives if you know you are driving. Zero tolerance would save a lot of lives and a lot of confusion.

[DoubleD]

FerdiZ28 said:

Mr2Mike said:

So you believe it's absolutely fine and beneficial for people to be charged with DUI after using mouthwash or having Coq au vin for dinner? A zero limit is ridiculous and unworkable. I wouldn't argue against lowering the current limit however.

I do. Not hard to avoid such things or buy non alcoholic alternatives if you know you are driving. Zero tolerance would save a lot of lives and a lot of confusion.

Does driving with mouthwash in your system impair your driving?

[Boosted LS1]

fk knows but the current system is rubbish, just like speeding to a number on a stick. People have been doing both for eons without carnage.

[Ed.]

Red 4 said:

As ever Bullshire say it best;

https://mobile.twitter.com/BullshirePolice/status/...

Drink/ drive arrests in my county are up 29% over Christmas 2017 period compared to previous year.

You think the message is getting across ?

Edited by Red 4 on Friday 19th January 13:55

Which message is that?
If you are an old tv personality its £6k for 50 milligrams but a footballer with 100mg its £170 and 100hrs community service (probably playing football)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/18/wayne-r...

Living in Scotland I don't drink when I am going to need to drive but its apparently not uncommon in the countryside and islands.

[GT03ROB]

FerdiZ28 said:

Zero tolerance would save a lot of lives and a lot of confusion.

Zero tolerance in many areas would also save a lot of lives & confusion, but that is usually know as dumbing down to the lowest common denominator & is objected to by the majority.

[caelite]

TobyLerone said:

caelite said:

Breath limit of 0.22 (as opposed to England & Wales's 0.35). Roughly translates into half a pint of normal 4-5% lager or a pint and a ~2 hour break before driving to keep your average guy under the limit. 1 pint puts most a hair over.

Personally I disagree with it, I know people have different tolerances, but for me personally the Scottish limit is set so it is just lower than where I can 'feel' the effects. 0.35ish for me is a healthy 'buzz', where I know I am not good to drive, 0.22, I don't feel drunk at all. For me I'd prefer to be knowingly driving 'drunk' before falling into DUI territory.

Edited by caelite on Wednesday 24th January 20:09

Errrr... Am I missing something here, or are you trolling?

Prevention is often better than cure, so why knowingly drive drunk?

If the limit is low, but high enough for a swill of mouthwash, coq-au-vin and a Christmas pudding. Cool. If it's too low for "most to be over the limit" after DRINKING AN ALCOHOLIC DRINK, perfect. If you knowingly want to drink and drive, you deserve everything you get.

A limit of dead nuts zero is a bit low. As others have said - even mouthwash wild have the capacity to put you over.

If you drive a car, you obviously have the mental capacity to know the rules about drink-driving. The answer is simple. Don't fking do it.

Sorry, it's possible I wasn't apt in my phrasing.

The point I was trying to make is that I would prefer that the drink drive limit be at a level where most people can feel the effects that alcohol is having on them. The exceptionally low limits it puts the amount of alcohol required for a charge below the threshold where you even feel 'tipsy'. Making it very easy to inadvertently drink & drive if for instance, you have a few drinks then drive hours later when you believe yourself to be fine.

[chaz1234]

Guy was over limit and caught for it makes no difference he is a celebrity. Drink Driving Is a bad thing and innocent people die because of drunk people driving. The hard thing is the lack of knowledge on the drink drive limit because everyone is effected differently from it. I passed my driving test in 2000 and I asked My driving instructor what the drink drive limit was he told me maximum 2 pints. In My younger years I was a wild person I was stopped and breathalysed after a carvery meal and 3 pints on a long evening session and was under the drink drive limit. I then had a friend who crashed his car after 2 Pints and was over the limit. Limit should be lower. Zero Limit would be impossible to enforce and would not be beneficial to road safety.

[Too Drunk to Funk]

GT03ROB said:

FerdiZ28 said:

Zero tolerance would save a lot of lives and a lot of confusion.

Zero tolerance in many areas would also save a lot of lives & confusion, but that is usually know as dumbing down to the lowest common denominator & is objected to by the majority.

Why do you feel the need to throw the book at people who have done nothing wrong?

We have some of the safest roads in the world.

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[GT03ROB]

Too Drunk to Funk said:

GT03ROB said:

FerdiZ28 said:

Zero tolerance would save a lot of lives and a lot of confusion.

Zero tolerance in many areas would also save a lot of lives & confusion, but that is usually know as dumbing down to the lowest common denominator & is objected to by the majority.

Why do you feel the need to throw the book at people who have done nothing wrong?

We have some of the safest roads in the world.

.

Maybe I didn't make my point clear. I'm not advocating throwing the book at people.... I'm saying if you adopted zero tolerance on a lot more things lives would be saved....but too many people would feel their lives too constrained. Excess speed for example... it can kill. Lets adopt zero tolerance there....hmmm....that will end well round here. More than the speed limit....automatic ban.

I absolutely do not condone people who drive drunk. But around the current limit there are a vast number of other factors that are probably equally if not more significant causes of accidents. I see more bad/dangerous driving as a result of mobiles than anything else..... lets see zero tolerance there & 12 month bans. How about zero tolerance on people eating & drinking while in a moving car? 12 months ban for that as well. Talking to the person next to you? Screaming kids in the back?

Show me the evidence that people driving at or around the current limit are a significant contributor to road deaths or accidents. Show me how changing the current limits will stop the people who have 4-5 pints & drive.

Edited by GT03ROB on Thursday 25th January 07:33

[FerdiZ28]

DoubleD said:

Does driving with mouthwash in your system impair your driving?

Probably not but there are non alcoholic versions. Zero tolerance solves more problems than it creates - like changing your mouthwash if you don’t want to take the risk. Also probably best not to keep swallowing mouthwash, it clearly affects your ability to see a point. Spit it out.

[DoubleD]

FerdiZ28 said:

DoubleD said:

Does driving with mouthwash in your system impair your driving?

Probably not but there are non alcoholic versions. Zero tolerance solves more problems than it creates - like changing your mouthwash if you don’t want to take the risk. Also probably best not to keep swallowing mouthwash, it clearly affects your ability to see a point. Spit it out.

So it doesnt impair your driving. Good im glad we cleared that up. So no need for a 0 limit then.

[GT03ROB]

FerdiZ28 said:

Zero tolerance solves more problems than it creates

What precisely is the problem it solves??

See I'd put speeding in 20 or 30mph limits as a far worse crime & probably kills more than somebody being between zero & the current DD limit. Lets give 12 month bans for that.