Chris Tarrant - Drink Drive
Discussion
GT03ROB said:
What precisely is the problem it solves??
See I'd put speeding in 20 or 30mph limits as a far worse crime & probably kills more than somebody being between zero & the current DD limit. Lets give 12 month bans for that.
We are a bit slow this morning aren’t we? Still, it’ll be the weekend soon.See I'd put speeding in 20 or 30mph limits as a far worse crime & probably kills more than somebody being between zero & the current DD limit. Lets give 12 month bans for that.
Zero tolerance removes any one pint riddled man maths that another pint is acceptable to drive home down a country road - or have that second pint because you’ve just eaten a large lamb shank. “It’s only another one and I know the road”.
Tell that to your next door neighbour who decided to leave their car at the pub, enjoy that second pint without any need for justification, then get taken out on the dark road as he walks home by the chap who “has done it for years and is a bit of a character”
Not a hard concept to grasp.
FerdiZ28 said:
We are a bit slow this morning aren’t we? Still, it’ll be the weekend soon..
It well past noon for some of us so no morning slowness
FerdiZ28 said:
Zero tolerance removes any one pint riddled man maths that another pint is acceptable to drive home down a country road - or have that second pint because you’ve just eaten a large lamb shank. “It’s only another one and I know the road”...
If somebody has that attitude it's because they believe they won't be caught. Zero tolerance does not change the probability of being caught. The problem remains.
We have zero tolerance here at work.. you turn up for work blow positive you're on the next flight home....does it stop people drinking nope. They know there is a very very slim chance of getting caught so they still do it.
Not a hard concept to grasp.
GT03ROB said:
If somebody has that attitude it's because they believe they won't be caught. Zero tolerance does not change the probability of being caught. The problem remains.
We have zero tolerance here at work.. you turn up for work blow positive you're on the next flight home....does it stop people drinking nope. They know there is a very very slim chance of getting caught so they still do it.
Not a hard concept to grasp.
I bet you fit in well at work.We have zero tolerance here at work.. you turn up for work blow positive you're on the next flight home....does it stop people drinking nope. They know there is a very very slim chance of getting caught so they still do it.
Not a hard concept to grasp.
How many hit and run?
& How many clip cars and drove off?
Because they know they can't be at the scene/stopped due to being over the limit.
How many are on borrowed time.
If you drive over the limit I sincerely hope you are stopped or reported by friends, family or public as you live the pub/restaurant etc.
& How many clip cars and drove off?
Because they know they can't be at the scene/stopped due to being over the limit.
How many are on borrowed time.
If you drive over the limit I sincerely hope you are stopped or reported by friends, family or public as you live the pub/restaurant etc.
FerdiZ28 said:
I do. Not hard to avoid such things or buy non alcoholic alternatives if you know you are driving. Zero tolerance would save a lot of lives and a lot of confusion.
I find it unlikely that people are dying purely from some vehicle drivers having trace amounts of alcohol in their system, but if you'd like to provide the evidence for your assertion I will educate myself.Trace? But if you remove any ambiguity I.e can I have a sesh tonight and drove to work tomorrow will I be ok and replace it with why not just drink responsibly and have a drink two days a week and plan around it.
Do you really NEED an alcoholic drink at a restaurant?
British seem to be obsessed with drinking to help socially and function.
Do you really need to drink regularly or is your life soulless? I'm having my first drink in 6 nights tonight. I like a good drink but I think as a nation we need to take a cold hard look at what's acceptable.
Do you really NEED an alcoholic drink at a restaurant?
British seem to be obsessed with drinking to help socially and function.
Do you really need to drink regularly or is your life soulless? I'm having my first drink in 6 nights tonight. I like a good drink but I think as a nation we need to take a cold hard look at what's acceptable.
caelite said:
Sorry, it's possible I wasn't apt in my phrasing.
The point I was trying to make is that I would prefer that the drink drive limit be at a level where most people can feel the effects that alcohol is having on them. The exceptionally low limits it puts the amount of alcohol required for a charge below the threshold where you even feel 'tipsy'. Making it very easy to inadvertently drink & drive if for instance, you have a few drinks then drive hours later when you believe yourself to be fine.
Nah. I got you first time. The point I was trying to make is that I would prefer that the drink drive limit be at a level where most people can feel the effects that alcohol is having on them. The exceptionally low limits it puts the amount of alcohol required for a charge below the threshold where you even feel 'tipsy'. Making it very easy to inadvertently drink & drive if for instance, you have a few drinks then drive hours later when you believe yourself to be fine.
If you feel the effects, then you're impaired. And less safe. And you shouldn't be f
king driving. I couldn't give a f
k if you want a drink or three early on, and drive later. If you want to drive, then you shouldn't be drinking ANYTHING alcoholic.As I said, zero is a bit low / totalitarian. But very low is a good move. Less than one drinks' worth? Perfect. It means that people can't drink, and drive. Yet allows some flex for mouthwash / fancy chocolates / alcohol prepared food.
This is the crux of the issue currently. You feel fine, but your impairment doesn't care about your feelings. Line in the sand has to be somewhere, and currently I think it's too high.
Wanna drink? Get a mate to drive / taxi / über / train / tram / bus / walk. It's not like there's not a lot of options.
No f
king excuse.Yep madness that people literally must drink then drive saying it's fine.
Nevermind the dizzy feeling. Alcohol affects your mood, attitude and temper. Your more likely to take chances and feel more confident...
If you do insist on drink and driving and live in the Manchester area. Please let me know your reg, sort of times you'll drive and we'll be waiting for you..
Nevermind the dizzy feeling. Alcohol affects your mood, attitude and temper. Your more likely to take chances and feel more confident...
If you do insist on drink and driving and live in the Manchester area. Please let me know your reg, sort of times you'll drive and we'll be waiting for you..
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