RE: Volkswagen Up! GTI: Driven
Discussion
115bhp and some are surprised its good on the motorway. I had a 1.6GLS cavalier and then an Escort TDi, both with 90bhp and both comfortably would do 100mph.
Power and fun do not have a linear relationship nor do you need 500bhp to make progress. I like this UP and my wifes Suzuki Swift Sport could be replaced by something like this.
Power and fun do not have a linear relationship nor do you need 500bhp to make progress. I like this UP and my wifes Suzuki Swift Sport could be replaced by something like this.
Toyoda said:
My thoughts too. This up is just another lukewarm little car like so many others that came out in the early 2000s like the ignis sport, yaris t sport, panda 100hp, sportka, fiesta zetec s etc. Nothing to see here...
Except that somewhat sadly that particular niche has all but died out. Apart from Fiat with tbeir ratger expensive option none of the manufacturers you've listed make a warm super mini anymore.I've owned an Ignis Sport and Sportka before but own a regular Citigo now (I simply don't need a bigger car). The Up GTi is great news simply because it isn't the early 2000s anymore.
Bit of a damp squib really. I can only see die hard VW fans paying that much for it.
As said above the Lupo GTi is probably better as an old skool hot hatch and if it's a modern hot hatch I wanted, I'd look elsewhere.
The 595 Abarths look better, will sound waaay better and will kick its arse and since most people will buy these on a pay monthly scheme it would be daft not to pay a few quid more a month for a much quicker, better hot hatch.
Nice attempt by VW but a bit pointless in my eyes.
As said above the Lupo GTi is probably better as an old skool hot hatch and if it's a modern hot hatch I wanted, I'd look elsewhere.
The 595 Abarths look better, will sound waaay better and will kick its arse and since most people will buy these on a pay monthly scheme it would be daft not to pay a few quid more a month for a much quicker, better hot hatch.
Nice attempt by VW but a bit pointless in my eyes.
Looks like just the sort of thing I'm after next - Last car was an F10 M5 and current car is a Leon Cupra.
Both great machines, but neither loved by myself, rather just "respected".
The only thing in the text that concerns me - "But it's also not the most joyful car to drive fast". Which is the whole point, so I really need to try one out.
My old Puma and even a Citroen C1 were a blast to drive fast, this needs to be too.
Both great machines, but neither loved by myself, rather just "respected".
The only thing in the text that concerns me - "But it's also not the most joyful car to drive fast". Which is the whole point, so I really need to try one out.
My old Puma and even a Citroen C1 were a blast to drive fast, this needs to be too.
ukaskew said:
Except that somewhat sadly that particular niche has all but died out. Apart from Fiat with tbeir ratger expensive option none of the manufacturers you've listed make a warm super mini anymore.
I've owned an Ignis Sport and Sportka before but own a regular Citigo now (I simply don't need a bigger car). The Up GTi is great news simply because it isn't the early 2000s anymore.
Well, all the NA niche cars I list above have indeed died out, but this Up won't be alone in the 1 litre turbo small car market. Sure, this is a 'city' car rather than a 'supermini' but the Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost in 125bhp flavour which has been around for a good while will give similar thrills, and of course there's the new Swift Sport in a similar vein. Still not the same as revving the nuts off a small engined NA car, as I'm sure you'll agree, having owned the Ignis Sport and SportKa but of course with emissions nonsense those days are gone. I've owned an Ignis Sport and Sportka before but own a regular Citigo now (I simply don't need a bigger car). The Up GTi is great news simply because it isn't the early 2000s anymore.
I was hoping it'd be like the Lupo Gti I owned 15 years ago (best car I've ever owned-was so much fun), sadly I don't think it'll be the case-I will still test drive one though.
I've been looking at buying a Lupo Gti (but worry that the youngest are 12 years old) along with newer stuff like the previous generation Swift Sport. Another car I've considered is the Kia Picanto GT Line S, but I'd wait for the turbo engine to be launched in it and hopefully it'd be able to be remapped to a higher power.
I've owned a BMW M135i for approaching 6 years, but, I've never really bonded with it due to the steering feel/handling and the amount of warranty work done on it (18k so far). I also think it's too fast to throw around and have fun in.
I really am stuck in what to do for small fun car.
Any one offer any more alternatives I could look at.
Cheers
I've been looking at buying a Lupo Gti (but worry that the youngest are 12 years old) along with newer stuff like the previous generation Swift Sport. Another car I've considered is the Kia Picanto GT Line S, but I'd wait for the turbo engine to be launched in it and hopefully it'd be able to be remapped to a higher power.
I've owned a BMW M135i for approaching 6 years, but, I've never really bonded with it due to the steering feel/handling and the amount of warranty work done on it (18k so far). I also think it's too fast to throw around and have fun in.
I really am stuck in what to do for small fun car.
Any one offer any more alternatives I could look at.
Cheers
Turbojuice said:
Alucidnation said:
nickfrog said:
Great but will have stiff competition against the forthcoming Suzuki Swift Sport
Surely thats a Polo Gti competitor?I love our C1 for a lot of reasons but cant get past the daft gearing, lack of poke and it feeling a bit low rent, quite happy with a small car and really, I dont need 400 bhp so will be looking at these with interest, the Swift was a good little car but it was missing a key ingredient that is important in the UK, the badge, Suzuki says budget pensioner chariot or small off roader (remember "Bad Boy" Kittted Vitaras ? - shudder, in metallic pink with a white roof for the full effect) but a VW badge will help massively.
So many people will buy them, nostalgic middle aged blokes, youngsters for their first sporty car, pensioners, anyone who wants a small car that isnt completely toothless, the UP! is a good little car, this gives it the attitude and performance that has been missing.
There must be a remap coming as well, 150 bhp would do.
So many people will buy them, nostalgic middle aged blokes, youngsters for their first sporty car, pensioners, anyone who wants a small car that isnt completely toothless, the UP! is a good little car, this gives it the attitude and performance that has been missing.
There must be a remap coming as well, 150 bhp would do.
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