RE: Ferrari 488 'GTO' leaked
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corozin said:
These days all Ferraris except the Portafino just appear to be garage investments which you might occasionally see at a smart motor show if the weather is nice enough.
You almost never see them on the road, being driven or used. Ferrari offer a 7 year warranty now and yet owners, simply terrified that a nice drive will decimate residuals seem to cosset them away in a garage only peeking out to travel to thier annual service check.
So the 488GTO, whilst no doubt being a spectacular piece of engineering, is also utterly pointless. You'll never see one. In fact I wonder if Raffaele Di Simone will chalk up more miles developing the car at Fiorano than all it's owners achieve as owners put together.
bks. You almost never see them on the road, being driven or used. Ferrari offer a 7 year warranty now and yet owners, simply terrified that a nice drive will decimate residuals seem to cosset them away in a garage only peeking out to travel to thier annual service check.
So the 488GTO, whilst no doubt being a spectacular piece of engineering, is also utterly pointless. You'll never see one. In fact I wonder if Raffaele Di Simone will chalk up more miles developing the car at Fiorano than all it's owners achieve as owners put together.
This morning so far I've seen a 458 in the hospital car park, a 488 driving into the Jaguar dealership. Another 488 in the gym car park. An FF on the M56 motorway and an F12 on the A34, and it's not even lunchtime yet.
Ares said:
corozin said:
These days all Ferraris except the Portafino just appear to be garage investments which you might occasionally see at a smart motor show if the weather is nice enough.
You almost never see them on the road, being driven or used. Ferrari offer a 7 year warranty now and yet owners, simply terrified that a nice drive will decimate residuals seem to cosset them away in a garage only peeking out to travel to thier annual service check.
So the 488GTO, whilst no doubt being a spectacular piece of engineering, is also utterly pointless. You'll never see one. In fact I wonder if Raffaele Di Simone will chalk up more miles developing the car at Fiorano than all it's owners achieve as owners put together.
bks. You almost never see them on the road, being driven or used. Ferrari offer a 7 year warranty now and yet owners, simply terrified that a nice drive will decimate residuals seem to cosset them away in a garage only peeking out to travel to thier annual service check.
So the 488GTO, whilst no doubt being a spectacular piece of engineering, is also utterly pointless. You'll never see one. In fact I wonder if Raffaele Di Simone will chalk up more miles developing the car at Fiorano than all it's owners achieve as owners put together.
This morning so far I've seen a 458 in the hospital car park, a 488 driving into the Jaguar dealership. Another 488 in the gym car park. An FF on the M56 motorway and an F12 on the A34, and it's not even lunchtime yet.
PhantomPH said:
Ares said:
corozin said:
These days all Ferraris except the Portafino just appear to be garage investments which you might occasionally see at a smart motor show if the weather is nice enough.
You almost never see them on the road, being driven or used. Ferrari offer a 7 year warranty now and yet owners, simply terrified that a nice drive will decimate residuals seem to cosset them away in a garage only peeking out to travel to thier annual service check.
So the 488GTO, whilst no doubt being a spectacular piece of engineering, is also utterly pointless. You'll never see one. In fact I wonder if Raffaele Di Simone will chalk up more miles developing the car at Fiorano than all it's owners achieve as owners put together.
bks. You almost never see them on the road, being driven or used. Ferrari offer a 7 year warranty now and yet owners, simply terrified that a nice drive will decimate residuals seem to cosset them away in a garage only peeking out to travel to thier annual service check.
So the 488GTO, whilst no doubt being a spectacular piece of engineering, is also utterly pointless. You'll never see one. In fact I wonder if Raffaele Di Simone will chalk up more miles developing the car at Fiorano than all it's owners achieve as owners put together.
This morning so far I've seen a 458 in the hospital car park, a 488 driving into the Jaguar dealership. Another 488 in the gym car park. An FF on the M56 motorway and an F12 on the A34, and it's not even lunchtime yet.
It may be a great car, but the marketing waffle is nauseating, and PH, of course, lapped it up like good little journos.
"Specifications leaked" - no, Ferrari marketing says "faster, lighter, more powerful" without giving any numbers.
"the highest racing technology transfer on a street homologated Ferrari" - does this actually mean anything?
"a 20 per cent gain in aerodynamic efficiency" - what - lower drag, higher downforce, or meaningless waffle?
a "unique, track-like sound" ditto
"It's believed that" blah blah carbon blah blah.
Ferrari PR does a fact-free teaser, and PH reports it as "leaked specifications". Total click-bait.
I'm prepared to believe that the car, when released, will be brilliant, but Ferrari PR have done a masterful bullst blinder here, and PH reporter swallowed it whole.
"Specifications leaked" - no, Ferrari marketing says "faster, lighter, more powerful" without giving any numbers.
"the highest racing technology transfer on a street homologated Ferrari" - does this actually mean anything?
"a 20 per cent gain in aerodynamic efficiency" - what - lower drag, higher downforce, or meaningless waffle?
a "unique, track-like sound" ditto
"It's believed that" blah blah carbon blah blah.
Ferrari PR does a fact-free teaser, and PH reports it as "leaked specifications". Total click-bait.
I'm prepared to believe that the car, when released, will be brilliant, but Ferrari PR have done a masterful bullst blinder here, and PH reporter swallowed it whole.
Ares said:
PhantomPH said:
Ares said:
corozin said:
These days all Ferraris except the Portafino just appear to be garage investments which you might occasionally see at a smart motor show if the weather is nice enough.
You almost never see them on the road, being driven or used. Ferrari offer a 7 year warranty now and yet owners, simply terrified that a nice drive will decimate residuals seem to cosset them away in a garage only peeking out to travel to thier annual service check.
So the 488GTO, whilst no doubt being a spectacular piece of engineering, is also utterly pointless. You'll never see one. In fact I wonder if Raffaele Di Simone will chalk up more miles developing the car at Fiorano than all it's owners achieve as owners put together.
bks. You almost never see them on the road, being driven or used. Ferrari offer a 7 year warranty now and yet owners, simply terrified that a nice drive will decimate residuals seem to cosset them away in a garage only peeking out to travel to thier annual service check.
So the 488GTO, whilst no doubt being a spectacular piece of engineering, is also utterly pointless. You'll never see one. In fact I wonder if Raffaele Di Simone will chalk up more miles developing the car at Fiorano than all it's owners achieve as owners put together.
This morning so far I've seen a 458 in the hospital car park, a 488 driving into the Jaguar dealership. Another 488 in the gym car park. An FF on the M56 motorway and an F12 on the A34, and it's not even lunchtime yet.
Gateshead was just the nearest dump I could see out of the window. If I could see as far as Sunderland, then... *runs*
To be fair, I do see a number of very nice cars around here, but certainly not being used as 'dailies'. Quite a few McLarens dotting around here in the last 6 months or so, so I think Mac need to hurry up and open the dealership they have been talking about for the North East...seems there is a market up here!
PhantomPH said:
Yes, it is nice and sunny up here today...not a bad day!
Gateshead was just the nearest dump I could see out of the window. If I could see as far as Sunderland, then... *runs*
To be fair, I do see a number of very nice cars around here, but certainly not being used as 'dailies'. Quite a few McLarens dotting around here in the last 6 months or so, so I think Mac need to hurry up and open the dealership they have been talking about for the North East...seems there is a market up here!
Sunny here too....which why I suspect there were plenty out early.Gateshead was just the nearest dump I could see out of the window. If I could see as far as Sunderland, then... *runs*
To be fair, I do see a number of very nice cars around here, but certainly not being used as 'dailies'. Quite a few McLarens dotting around here in the last 6 months or so, so I think Mac need to hurry up and open the dealership they have been talking about for the North East...seems there is a market up here!
Ares said:
Sunny here too....which why I suspect there were plenty out early.
Not to derail the thread, but if you are based in this region, a pal of mine is putting together a new event in June which looks like it's shaping up to be rather special and will feature come cars that don't tend to be shown up in this region. Worth being aware of if that's your bag (baby): https://www.facebook.com/Bella-Auto-14610745602522...PhantomPH said:
Ares said:
Sunny here too....which why I suspect there were plenty out early.
Not to derail the thread, but if you are based in this region, a pal of mine is putting together a new event in June which looks like it's shaping up to be rather special and will feature come cars that don't tend to be shown up in this region. Worth being aware of if that's your bag (baby): https://www.facebook.com/Bella-Auto-14610745602522...Ares said:
PhantomPH said:
Ares said:
Sunny here too....which why I suspect there were plenty out early.
Not to derail the thread, but if you are based in this region, a pal of mine is putting together a new event in June which looks like it's shaping up to be rather special and will feature come cars that don't tend to be shown up in this region. Worth being aware of if that's your bag (baby): https://www.facebook.com/Bella-Auto-14610745602522...BVB said:
With the Lambo Performante having just totally blitzed the 488 and 720S and taken the crown of this genre, I can't help but think this new Ferrari will annihilate the opposition for many years to come.
Apart from the fact that the Lambo's 'crown' has since been passed to the GT2RS. Until the 488 GTO/Spaz arrives which will be then trumped by the 720 'LT' which will then be beaten by the.[ ].......Ad infinitum.Its this constant power and speed battle which has lost my interest in current supercars, coupled with the fact that they are pretty much impossible for the ordinary buyer to order even if they have the financial wherewithal (which I don't sadly).
I just want a well sorted air cooled 911 these days and couldn't care less what's faster around the 'Ring. Alas prices of those have gone stratospheric as well.
corozin said:
These days all Ferraris except the Portafino just appear to be garage investments which you might occasionally see at a smart motor show if the weather is nice enough.
You almost never see them on the road, being driven or used. Ferrari offer a 7 year warranty now and yet owners, simply terrified that a nice drive will decimate residuals seem to cosset them away in a garage only peeking out to travel to thier annual service check.
So the 488GTO, whilst no doubt being a spectacular piece of engineering, is also utterly pointless. You'll never see one. In fact I wonder if Raffaele Di Simone will chalk up more miles developing the car at Fiorano than all it's owners achieve as owners put together.
You're looking in the wrong places and particularly the wrong time of year.You almost never see them on the road, being driven or used. Ferrari offer a 7 year warranty now and yet owners, simply terrified that a nice drive will decimate residuals seem to cosset them away in a garage only peeking out to travel to thier annual service check.
So the 488GTO, whilst no doubt being a spectacular piece of engineering, is also utterly pointless. You'll never see one. In fact I wonder if Raffaele Di Simone will chalk up more miles developing the car at Fiorano than all it's owners achieve as owners put together.
Certainly the special editions are being more cosseted, but the regular "cooking" 458, 448s, etc are absolutely being driven. They just aren't (for the most part) being driven to the shops to pick up some grout.
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