Nissan Leaf

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corozin

2,680 posts

272 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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jjwilde said:
corozin said:
Last summer I stopped at Clackett Lane services on the M25 in Kent, and there were two leafs (leaves?) occupying the two charging points in the public car park. The owners were both sitting on a nearby fence looking at thier cars.

50 minutes later, having had a bit of dinner, a coffee and read most of August's CAR magazine, I came back out to my car and both Nissans were still sitting there charging.

Frankly you can keep the things.
No they weren't, the chargers stop after 30mins. Also a Leaf would be full well before 50mins. Don't make things up.
I know what I saw and I stand by it.

swisstoni

17,053 posts

280 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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I’ve noticed is that public charging points are starting to look pretty full.

The facilities are going to have to expand beyond the initial few that were installed a few years ago, otherwise the next phase of EV take up (after range is improved) is going to stall.


andy43

9,733 posts

255 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Loyly said:
If you have absolutely lost all passion for driving then yes, go for it.
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Yep. Instant heat, instant de icing, and away you go. Silent, thrashable straight from stone cold, no mechanical sympathy ever needed. Can’t wake the neighbours at 7am no matter how hard you try. Decent ride, supernippy from the lights and into gaps. Ours is charged at home, on the 13a plug in charger it came with.
150 a month, with servicing included. Shame the new Leaf will be double that. Virtually no fuel costs, no car tax. Brakes don’t wear out, there’s no real servicing needed, it’s the ultimate hassle free vehicle.
As a commuter or city car the Leaf just works - go read Richard Porters piece on his long term Leaf.
Yes it’s ugly, yes the range limits it, and yes it’s dull, but not compared to the usual diesel white goods it competes against. I suspect most of the negative commenters haven’t tried one.

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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A very long time ago this was Teds forum about TVR:s .

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Wow, I bought a leaf and left my balls behind. Ted did good, he kept his. Electric has nothing to do with cars imo.

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th January 23:52

JonnyVTEC

3,006 posts

176 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Blaster72 said:
Does it? Sounds dangerous, surely the car needs to control the rate of charge coming in?
It’s DC high current charge, the onboard AC can’t deal with it. Instead the car talks to the station charger though the communication part of the charging cable.

Blaster72

10,893 posts

198 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Thanks, that makes more sense. I guess the limiting factor is heat and battery degradation.

LarryUSA

4,319 posts

257 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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We bought a Fiat 500e for my wife 18 months ago. Perfect for the 40 mile daily commute 4 days a week. Charge it 4 nights a week, but it’s normally only 50%. Costs us $25 a month to charge, but PG&E gave us a $500 cheque for our EV so in reality, we’ve not paid to charge it yet!

Wife says she never wants a petrol car again. Always hat d filling up and loves the way the EV drives, I like it too, so nippy. You have to have a second car though as the 80-100 mile range is not viable, but works for us.

covmutley

3,029 posts

191 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Boosted LS1 said:
Wow, I bought a leaf and left my balls behind. Ted did good, he kept his. Electric has nothing to do with cars imo.

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th January 23:52
Says the guy with the business selling big, thirsty expensive engines. Don't get me wrong, I would love one. But it isn't a reality for me, for a number of reasons.

Mr E

21,635 posts

260 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Boosted LS1 said:
Wow, I bought a leaf and left my balls behind. Ted did good, he kept his. Electric has nothing to do with cars imo.
As discussed elsewhere, I still have a car with a big fk off V8, and another with probably the best steering ever devised by man.

The Leaf is purely a method of getting to work where I make the money to indulge in the other cars.

Real petrol heads would have course have kept the 13 year old 120k Yaris that wanted a clutch and suspension refresh. Because the 1.3 litre 4 pot has something magical that an electric motor doesn’t.

Andehh

7,113 posts

207 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Mr E said:
Boosted LS1 said:
Wow, I bought a leaf and left my balls behind. Ted did good, he kept his. Electric has nothing to do with cars imo.
As discussed elsewhere, I still have a car with a big fk off V8, and another with probably the best steering ever devised by man.

The Leaf is purely a method of getting to work where I make the money to indulge in the other cars.

Real petrol heads would have course have kept the 13 year old 120k Yaris that wanted a clutch and suspension refresh. Because the 1.3 litre 4 pot has something magical that an electric motor doesn’t.
biglaughbiglaugh

Evanivitch

20,164 posts

123 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Boosted LS1 said:
A very long time ago this was Teds forum about TVR:s .
Plenty of owners on SpeakEV have a second, weekend car. I myself have a mk1 MX5 that lives alongside my Ampera.

And many others never owned a performance car to begin with and think the Leafs 0-60 is something to race about. All 9.4 secs of it! wink

vikingaero

10,407 posts

170 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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cjs racing. said:
At best, I have to park on the opposite side of a main road from my house, at worst I have to park 1 street away.

How are EV'S ever going to work for people like myself?

So given my circumstances, it's a big fat no from me.
It's going to be a huge challenge for people who live in terraced streets or with no driveway. Do we have another round of mega utility disruption along the lines of NTL/Telewest/Virgin? Do we have streets littered with charging posts? Do we try and integrate charging posts into existing lamp posts and other street furniture? Is wireless charging feasible? How do we deal with cables infringing on pavement space? You're always going to get one Smart Alec trailing a long cable to charge which impacts on others. You'll have cables running across your car to a charge point in places.

I'm seriously considering changing Mrs V.'s Mitsubishi i-Car for an i-Miev. Why? Type of journeys and range A 40-60 mile range would mean once a week charging. At the moment we fill the i-Car up once every 2-3 weeks for £30. She drops The Vikingettes off at school and to work - a distance of 4 miles. Then the same in the evening and sometimes trips to gymnastics. It's all very short range work.

Mr E

21,635 posts

260 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Evanivitch said:
And many others never owned a performance car to begin with and think the Leafs 0-60 is something to race about. All 9.4 secs of it! wink
It amuses me that it feels faster than it is. 0-35 is surprisingly nippy but it runs out of ideas after that.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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We've had an ev as a second car for 3 years now. Zoe and now a Soul ev.

I'd you can charge at home and never need more than say 80miles in one go they are perfect.

Smooth, quite, warm, cheap to tun and, full of tech and nippy. You can do most normal cars off the lights despite the less than impressive 0 to 60.

andy43

9,733 posts

255 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Boosted LS1 said:
Wow, I bought a leaf and left my balls behind. Ted did good, he kept his. Electric has nothing to do with cars imo.

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th January 23:52
We’ve got a Leaf - I love it. The right tool for the job.
Current testicles are a Griff and a supercharged Merc.
Call it carbon offsetting if you like.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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What are 'performance car' chest wig dinosaurs going to do when every other car on the road is an ev capable of doing 60 in 3 seconds or less? When they are also cheaper than the quick equivalent ice cars?

It'll happen and it's not going to be long.

Myself I've an mx5 in the garage which is fun and involving to drive. That's going nowhere.

Mr E

21,635 posts

260 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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andy43 said:
We’ve got a Leaf - I love it. The right tool for the job.
Current testicles are a Griff and a supercharged Merc.
Call it carbon offsetting if you like.
Dammit. There’s always someone with a faster car isn’t there?
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vikingaero

10,407 posts

170 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Anyone remember the Top Gear test of the Nissan Leaf/Pug Ion to Cleethorpes, where they drove around in bumper cars and said that there should be chicken mesh above the nations motorways to enable you to erect a pole (tall pole though) to charge/motor on the go?

Whilst slightly mad, it does have some sense. It would mean you would have power for the high speed run that is the Achilles Heel for an electric car and when you leave the motorway your car is fully charged.

andy43

9,733 posts

255 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Mr E said:
andy43 said:
We’ve got a Leaf - I love it. The right tool for the job.
Current testicles are a Griff and a supercharged Merc.
Call it carbon offsetting if you like.
Dammit. There’s always someone with a faster car isn’t there?
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Not necessarily. Line all three up and try a standing start, without feeling like you’re destroying a clutch or a £300 pair of tyres. The Leaf will be fastest over the first twenty yards.