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jjwilde said:
corozin said:
Last summer I stopped at Clackett Lane services on the M25 in Kent, and there were two leafs (leaves?) occupying the two charging points in the public car park. The owners were both sitting on a nearby fence looking at thier cars.
50 minutes later, having had a bit of dinner, a coffee and read most of August's CAR magazine, I came back out to my car and both Nissans were still sitting there charging.
Frankly you can keep the things.
No they weren't, the chargers stop after 30mins. Also a Leaf would be full well before 50mins. Don't make things up.50 minutes later, having had a bit of dinner, a coffee and read most of August's CAR magazine, I came back out to my car and both Nissans were still sitting there charging.
Frankly you can keep the things.
Loyly said:
If you have absolutely lost all passion for driving then yes, go for it.
DELETED: Comment made by a member who's account has been deleted. 150 a month, with servicing included. Shame the new Leaf will be double that. Virtually no fuel costs, no car tax. Brakes don’t wear out, there’s no real servicing needed, it’s the ultimate hassle free vehicle.
As a commuter or city car the Leaf just works - go read Richard Porters piece on his long term Leaf.
Yes it’s ugly, yes the range limits it, and yes it’s dull, but not compared to the usual diesel white goods it competes against. I suspect most of the negative commenters haven’t tried one.
We bought a Fiat 500e for my wife 18 months ago. Perfect for the 40 mile daily commute 4 days a week. Charge it 4 nights a week, but it’s normally only 50%. Costs us $25 a month to charge, but PG&E gave us a $500 cheque for our EV so in reality, we’ve not paid to charge it yet!
Wife says she never wants a petrol car again. Always hat d filling up and loves the way the EV drives, I like it too, so nippy. You have to have a second car though as the 80-100 mile range is not viable, but works for us.
Wife says she never wants a petrol car again. Always hat d filling up and loves the way the EV drives, I like it too, so nippy. You have to have a second car though as the 80-100 mile range is not viable, but works for us.
Boosted LS1 said:
Wow, I bought a leaf and left my balls behind. Ted did good, he kept his. Electric has nothing to do with cars imo.
Says the guy with the business selling big, thirsty expensive engines. Don't get me wrong, I would love one. But it isn't a reality for me, for a number of reasons. Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th January 23:52
Boosted LS1 said:
Wow, I bought a leaf and left my balls behind. Ted did good, he kept his. Electric has nothing to do with cars imo.
As discussed elsewhere, I still have a car with a big fk off V8, and another with probably the best steering ever devised by man. The Leaf is purely a method of getting to work where I make the money to indulge in the other cars.
Real petrol heads would have course have kept the 13 year old 120k Yaris that wanted a clutch and suspension refresh. Because the 1.3 litre 4 pot has something magical that an electric motor doesn’t.
Mr E said:
Boosted LS1 said:
Wow, I bought a leaf and left my balls behind. Ted did good, he kept his. Electric has nothing to do with cars imo.
As discussed elsewhere, I still have a car with a big fk off V8, and another with probably the best steering ever devised by man. The Leaf is purely a method of getting to work where I make the money to indulge in the other cars.
Real petrol heads would have course have kept the 13 year old 120k Yaris that wanted a clutch and suspension refresh. Because the 1.3 litre 4 pot has something magical that an electric motor doesn’t.
Boosted LS1 said:
A very long time ago this was Teds forum about TVR:s .
Plenty of owners on SpeakEV have a second, weekend car. I myself have a mk1 MX5 that lives alongside my Ampera. And many others never owned a performance car to begin with and think the Leafs 0-60 is something to race about. All 9.4 secs of it!
cjs racing. said:
At best, I have to park on the opposite side of a main road from my house, at worst I have to park 1 street away.
How are EV'S ever going to work for people like myself?
So given my circumstances, it's a big fat no from me.
It's going to be a huge challenge for people who live in terraced streets or with no driveway. Do we have another round of mega utility disruption along the lines of NTL/Telewest/Virgin? Do we have streets littered with charging posts? Do we try and integrate charging posts into existing lamp posts and other street furniture? Is wireless charging feasible? How do we deal with cables infringing on pavement space? You're always going to get one Smart Alec trailing a long cable to charge which impacts on others. You'll have cables running across your car to a charge point in places.How are EV'S ever going to work for people like myself?
So given my circumstances, it's a big fat no from me.
I'm seriously considering changing Mrs V.'s Mitsubishi i-Car for an i-Miev. Why? Type of journeys and range A 40-60 mile range would mean once a week charging. At the moment we fill the i-Car up once every 2-3 weeks for £30. She drops The Vikingettes off at school and to work - a distance of 4 miles. Then the same in the evening and sometimes trips to gymnastics. It's all very short range work.
We've had an ev as a second car for 3 years now. Zoe and now a Soul ev.
I'd you can charge at home and never need more than say 80miles in one go they are perfect.
Smooth, quite, warm, cheap to tun and, full of tech and nippy. You can do most normal cars off the lights despite the less than impressive 0 to 60.
I'd you can charge at home and never need more than say 80miles in one go they are perfect.
Smooth, quite, warm, cheap to tun and, full of tech and nippy. You can do most normal cars off the lights despite the less than impressive 0 to 60.
Boosted LS1 said:
Wow, I bought a leaf and left my balls behind. Ted did good, he kept his. Electric has nothing to do with cars imo.
We’ve got a Leaf - I love it. The right tool for the job. Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 20th January 23:52
Current testicles are a Griff and a supercharged Merc.
Call it carbon offsetting if you like.
What are 'performance car' chest wig dinosaurs going to do when every other car on the road is an ev capable of doing 60 in 3 seconds or less? When they are also cheaper than the quick equivalent ice cars?
It'll happen and it's not going to be long.
Myself I've an mx5 in the garage which is fun and involving to drive. That's going nowhere.
It'll happen and it's not going to be long.
Myself I've an mx5 in the garage which is fun and involving to drive. That's going nowhere.
Anyone remember the Top Gear test of the Nissan Leaf/Pug Ion to Cleethorpes, where they drove around in bumper cars and said that there should be chicken mesh above the nations motorways to enable you to erect a pole (tall pole though) to charge/motor on the go?
Whilst slightly mad, it does have some sense. It would mean you would have power for the high speed run that is the Achilles Heel for an electric car and when you leave the motorway your car is fully charged.
Whilst slightly mad, it does have some sense. It would mean you would have power for the high speed run that is the Achilles Heel for an electric car and when you leave the motorway your car is fully charged.
Mr E said:
andy43 said:
We’ve got a Leaf - I love it. The right tool for the job.
Current testicles are a Griff and a supercharged Merc.
Call it carbon offsetting if you like.
Dammit. There’s always someone with a faster car isn’t there?Current testicles are a Griff and a supercharged Merc.
Call it carbon offsetting if you like.
Not necessarily. Line all three up and try a standing start, without feeling like you’re destroying a clutch or a £300 pair of tyres. The Leaf will be fastest over the first twenty yards.
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