Mot changes 2018

[FlabbyMidgets]

I've searched but can't find anything relating to this.

New changes possibly inbound regarding mots. Particularly emissions and new categorisation on fails. I can see a large number of cars failing because of this, dpf and egr removal etc.

Thoughts?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/mot-spe...

[Benjijames28]

The type of people who remove things like dpf filters are going to be the same type of people who will track down an MOT tester who is willing to be as flexible as a gymnast when it comes to what cars he passes or fails.

The new regulations will almost certainly affect innocent people who have bought cars without knowing what a previous owner has done to them.

[Slow]

Benjijames28 said:

The type of people who remove things like dpf filters are going to be the same type of people who will track down an MOT tester who is willing to be as flexible as a gymnast when it comes to what cars he passes or fails.

The new regulations will almost certainly affect innocent people who have bought cars without knowing what a previous owner has done to them.

Also people can just gut the insides and leave the outside so it looks to be there, thats if they can even see past the mass of plastic on the top of engine bays these days.

[Benjijames28]

Slow said:

Also people can just gut the insides and leave the outside so it looks to be there, thats if they can even see past the mass of plastic on the top of engine bays these days.

I read on BBC other month they are looking at introducing new tests where they check the dog actually works, not just a visual check. There may even be roadside tests by the police. So if your 2015 diesel is seen kicking out black smoke... Roadside emissions test, fine. ££££

[Fox-]

This seems weird:

'DRLs may not operate when the engine is not running, when the parking brake is applied, or when the
park position is selected on automatic transmissions'
It only applies to cars registered after March 2018, but in theory the DRL's will need to switch off every time:

a) Start Stop cuts the engine in a queue
b) Auto hold applies the handbrake in a queu

Seriously?

[steve-5snwi]

Looks like £30 MOT's will be a thing of the past, its going to take 2 hours to MOT something. Testing stop start is going to be impossible, i don't think my Mini's has cut in for the last 2 years.

[Red 4]

So what is actually changing ?

What's this about DRLs and stop/start ?

[ericmcn]

Benjijames28 said:

The type of people who remove things like dpf filters are going to be the same type of people who will track down an MOT tester who is willing to be as flexible as a gymnast when it comes to what cars he passes or fails.

The new regulations will almost certainly affect innocent people who have bought cars without knowing what a previous owner has done to them.

previous owners who think its cool leaving behind a crap load of soot after the lights go green.

[M4cruiser]

Fox- said:

This seems weird:

'DRLs may not operate when the engine is not running, when the parking brake is applied, or when the
park position is selected on automatic transmissions'
It only applies to cars registered after March 2018, but in theory the DRL's will need to switch off every time:

a) Start Stop cuts the engine in a queue
b) Auto hold applies the handbrake in a queu

Seriously?

This seems ambiguously worded. Are they saying DRLs "must" not operate under those conditions, or is it advice to the tester to say that (on some cars) if they're not on then you may need to start the engine, or release the parking brake etc etc?

[S.H.A.D.O.]

M4cruiser said:

Fox- said:

This seems weird:

'DRLs may not operate when the engine is not running, when the parking brake is applied, or when the
park position is selected on automatic transmissions'
It only applies to cars registered after March 2018, but in theory the DRL's will need to switch off every time:

a) Start Stop cuts the engine in a queue
b) Auto hold applies the handbrake in a queu

Seriously?

This seems ambiguously worded. Are they saying DRLs "must" not operate under those conditions, or is it advice to the tester to say that (on some cars) if they're not on then you may need to start the engine, or release the parking brake etc etc?

Yes its full of ambiguity, thats why its difficult to get a consistant test result across thousands of testers.

Cars registered after March 2018 won't require an MOT until after March 2021 so there's plenty of time for things to change.

[confused_buyer]

Interesting that aftermarket HID installations are now officially a fail even if they function OK and pass the beam pattern test.

With DRLs as I read it they must work correctly when a car is designed that the DRL takes the place of a front position lamp. Where the DRL is an additional lamp and normal position lamps are still present the DRL does not need to work and can be disconnected, turned off or masked over on cars registered before March 2018 but they must work if OEM fitted on cars after this date.

[BricktopST205]

Anything about imports in there? I find it terribly frustrating having to give the M.O.T tester a letter from my manufacturer just to get it put through an non cat test.

[Alucidnation]

M4cruiser said:

Fox- said:

This seems weird:

'DRLs may not operate when the engine is not running, when the parking brake is applied, or when the
park position is selected on automatic transmissions'
It only applies to cars registered after March 2018, but in theory the DRL's will need to switch off every time:

a) Start Stop cuts the engine in a queue
b) Auto hold applies the handbrake in a queu

Seriously?

This seems ambiguously worded. Are they saying DRLs "must" not operate under those conditions, or is it advice to the tester to say that (on some cars) if they're not on then you may need to start the engine, or release the parking brake etc etc?

That's how i read it.

EG, the only must is when the vehicle reaches a certain speed or covers a certain distance and don't need to operate at any other time.

If that is the case, it seems an odd 'requirement' as i cant see manufacturers designing this feature.

[Benjijames28]

Another way to attack the innocent motorist.

[Rich_W]

Benjijames28 said:

Another way to attack the innocent motorist.

What?

If someones car will fail an mot because they've gutted the dpf. They aren't exactly innocent!

[Slow]

Rich_W said:

Benjijames28 said:

Another way to attack the innocent motorist.

What?

If someones car will fail an mot because they've gutted the dpf. They aren't exactly innocent!

Hes talking about the Drl/stop start I would assume?

[J4CKO]

Benjijames28 said:

Another way to attack the innocent motorist.

Or, another way to keep the roads as safe as possible and emissions controlled for the common good ?

Buy a classic, get some manky old heap over 50 years old, they dont need any MOT !

[anonymous-user]

the only thing i see it reduced level for smoke emissions, not really far enough for the dpf removers, who should be banned from the roads

[ging84]

Not very clear how the system of major and minor faults will work

dangerous is fairly clear, it is obviously not going to pass and should not be driven, but major and minor not so clear.

Will minors replace advisories, or will some previous fails now become minors and not cause a fail ?

[l354uge]

"excessive smoke" seems very easy to ignore by a friendly mot tester...