Mot changes 2018

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anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Copied and pasted from elsewhere:

Major changes to the MOT test on 20th of May 2018

Some of you may have already heard that there are big changes coming to the MOT test this May. Here are just a few of the biggest changes that are most likely to affect you. Please take these with a pinch of salt as nothing will be finalised until the end of April and will probably still be subject to change after that date. Remember it will take your MOT tester time to get up to speed with these too!

So...

Advisories are being replaced with minor fails. These are all pre written & approved by DVSA. You will still get a pass but they will be noted on your test certificate. Manual advisories are still being worked out but may disappear completely.

Those of you who have changed your standard headlight bulbs for HID's will now get a major fail even if the aim is correct. It has always been an offence to fit HID bulbs to halogen headlamps so the MOT is now in line with that.

Reverse lights are now part of the MOT for any car registered from 1st September 2009 (59 plate onwards). Daytime running lamps (DRL's) & front fog lamps must work on vehicles registered from March 2018 (18 plate onwards).

Engine Management Light is now a major fail. It must come on with the ignition and then turn off when the engine is started.

Brake pad warning lights are a major fail

Handbrake with excessive travel is now a major fail. Before it would only a fail if there was no reserve travel.

Contaminated (dirty) brake fluid is a major fail. Not sure how that will work as the MOT tester isn't allowed to remove the fluid cap.

Oil leaks (engine, gearbox etc.) can be a major failure if they are deemed large enough.

It seems they have removed the failure for tyres not being fitted according to sidewall instructions. Inner/outer or rotation incorrect.

Any modifications/removal to emissions related devices, this includes DPF'S and EGR's is now a major fail.

Where a DPF canister has clearly been cut open and re-welded, it will now fail.

A vehicle fitted with a DPF that emits any kind of visible smoke during the metered test will now fail

Emissions limits for diesels registered on or after 1st of January 2014 have been reduced. All diesels will now need to pass the limit that was set by the manufacturer when the car was new. This can be found on the VIN plate. For example the current limit for your diesel car may be 1.50. That could change to as low as 0.30 with the new rules.

These are just some of the bigger changes to the MOT test the average motorist is likely to be affected by. There are dozens, perhaps even over 100 changes to the actual MOT test and to the way testers record tests on the MOT computer. Please remember these are all subject to change in the coming months and remember spare a thought for your MOT tester before you say...

"Well it passed like that last year!"

Source - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/mot-spe...

njw1

2,071 posts

111 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
Emissions limits for diesels registered on or after 1st of January 2014 have been reduced. All diesels will now need to pass the limit that was set by the manufacturer when the car was new. This can be found on the VIN plate. For example the current limit for your diesel car may be 1.50. That could change to as low as 0.30 with the new rules.


Bit of a bugger if you own a VW..........

ElectricPics

761 posts

81 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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ging84 said:
Will minors replace advisories, or will some previous fails now become minors and not cause a fail ?
Minors are supposed to replace advisories but from what I've read nothing that would cause a fail now would be passed in future - far from it in fact as new inspection items and potential failures are introduced.



cuprabob

14,652 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Some people get their knickers in a twist if they get advisories on their record. Calling them "minor fails" will set them over the edge....

Starfighter

4,929 posts

178 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Especially the “under tray fitted preventing inspection” or similar wording.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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cuprabob said:
Some people get their knickers in a twist if they get advisories on their record. Calling them "minor fails" will set them over the edge....
I know people who have got genuinely angry with MOT testers because they put an 'unfair advisory' on their certificate, and therefore 'ruined their MOT history'.

Truly ridiculous.

Fox-

13,238 posts

246 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
I know people who have got genuinely angry with MOT testers because they put an 'unfair advisory' on their certificate, and therefore 'ruined their MOT history'.

Truly ridiculous.
To be fair it's fairly annoying looking up a car on a lookup site only to find orange everywhere because like every other car built in the last decade it has an undertray fitted.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,235 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
Those of you who have changed your standard headlight bulbs for HID's will now get a major fail even if the aim is correct. It has always been an offence to fit HID bulbs to halogen headlamps so the MOT is now in line with that.
I assume this will also affect LED 'upgrades' which are just as bad (or worse) as HIDs in terms of nasty beam patterns?
Also, because it isn't actually an offence to fit HID/LEDs, people will just replace the normal bulbs for the MOT.
EML light - easy to just replace the bulb with a timer circuit so it comes on for 5 seconds after turning on the ignition...or wire it to the ABS bulb!

Edited by Dr Doofenshmirtz on Monday 22 January 12:45

blank

3,458 posts

188 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
EML light - easy to just replace the bulb with a timer circuit so it comes on for 5 seconds after turning on the ignition...or wire it to the ABS bulb!
Not easy at all on anything remotely modern. Would be far easier to fix the actual problem!

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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It’s a good thing if they start catching out the tts that think its ok to remove a DPF!!

832ark

1,226 posts

156 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
It’s a good thing if they start catching out the tts that think its ok to remove a DPF!!
No, they’ll just carry on as usual. Good DPF removal jobs won’t be spotted just as they aren’t now. Bad ones are already picked up in the existing MOT.

Toyoda

1,557 posts

100 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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How can there be a blanket fail on the eml being on? On an old car of mine it came on and stayed on after an exhaust change as the tolerances on the new cat weren't the same as the original part and threw up an error on o2 sensor 2. Emissions fine and car drove fine. Went off again several years later when another cat was fitted. Must have been a better pattern part!
And when sensors themselves fail that can give an erroneous error code. I though mot was about safety??

M4cruiser

3,651 posts

150 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
Major changes to the MOT test on 20th of May 2018
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Engine Management Light is now a major fail. It must come on with the ignition and then turn off when the engine is started.

Source - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/mot-spe...
Can you please point me to the part of the manual (or section number) that specifically says the EML is a fail, I can't seem to find it in there?



SS2.

14,464 posts

238 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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M4cruiser said:
Can you please point me to the part of the manual (or section number) that specifically says the EML is a fail, I can't seem to find it in there?
Section 8.



loose cannon

6,030 posts

241 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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832ark said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
It’s a good thing if they start catching out the tts that think its ok to remove a DPF!!
No, they’ll just carry on as usual. Good DPF removal jobs won’t be spotted just as they aren’t now. Bad ones are already picked up in the existing MOT.
But now that the emission test will be based on the actual emission of each individual vehicle, or manufacturers output for that particular vehicle,
Will it now make any removal of the filter
Very difficult to pass, unlike the old system we’re there is just a set figure for older or newer vehicles

ashleyman

6,987 posts

99 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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loose cannon said:
But now that the emission test will be based on the actual emission of each individual vehicle, or manufacturers output for that particular vehicle,
Will it now make any removal of the filter
Very difficult to pass, unlike the old system we’re there is just a set figure for older or newer vehicles
With each car being tested for emissions, I wonder if cars that have remaps, aftermarket exhausts etc... will fail because of emissions. I'm no expert but do those modifications affect emissions?

vsonix

3,858 posts

163 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
I assume this will also affect LED 'upgrades' which are just as bad (or worse) as HIDs in terms of nasty beam patterns?
Also, because it isn't actually an offence to fit HID/LEDs, people will just replace the normal bulbs for the MOT.
EML light - easy to just replace the bulb with a timer circuit so it comes on for 5 seconds after turning on the ignition...or wire it to the ABS bulb!
It probably won't! Just as HIDs finally settle down and become useable and not-annoying, everyone will be running horrible headache-inducing flickery LED instead, yay!

nutsytvr

570 posts

198 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Having read section 4 - lighting, there is a very detailed description of what constitutes HID bulbs, none of which apply to LED bulbs.

Take a few seconds to reach full intensity
Have a bluish tinge
Use high voltage
Have an igniter / inverter unit behind the headlight unit

None of these apply to led bulbs, so it is difficult to see how aftermarket leds could result in a fail, unless of course badly adjusted or possibly flickering.
I have upgraded the halogen fogs and dipped heads on my Boxster to led bulbs, using Phillips bulbs. They do not flicker, and the beam pattern is not altered from the original halogens.

Paul

M4cruiser

3,651 posts

150 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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SS2. said:
M4cruiser said:
Can you please point me to the part of the manual (or section number) that specifically says the EML is a fail, I can't seem to find it in there?
Section 8.

Ah, thank you. So, how does the tester know if there isn't an EML or whether it's been disabled? Not all cars have EMLs. Not even all cars with cats, or injection, etc etc.



Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Fox- said:
To be fair it's fairly annoying looking up a car on a lookup site only to find orange everywhere because like every other car built in the last decade it has an undertray fitted.
If every car in the last decade has an under-tray fitted, why would the MOT record be any different to those? It's not like your car will suddenly stand out due to the under-tray advisories, which is there for perfectly sensible reasons.